How does eating lots of Sugar affect your Chi?

[dogson]

I'm a chi maniac and a sugar crack whore, this shall be my testimonial...

 

As a kid I was fat and always cracked out on soda and cookies and stuff. The turning point was when I switched from Surge to SoBe green tea, cut with ginseng. I feel like this subtly initiated me into herbs, even though I didn't properly get into it until way later.

 

Sugar really helps get me in state for taking massive action. I wrote an 800 page novel in 2 weeks in the lobby of a hotel in Chiang Mai, eating pretty much nothing but sugar wafers and little cookies. It was my ritual. I'd sit down and have a little packet of wafers, and I wouldn't stop typing for three or four hours.

 

I recently got into coffee as herbal medicine. I met David Wolfe and asked him the best way to neutralize the acids in coffee. He said cordyceps and reishi mushroom. So usually I spike my coffee with 3-12 drops of Dragon Herbs reishi extract and some cordyceps powder from three sigma - it's cut with star anise, which is annoyingly sweet. But it helps. They make alkaline coffee now, and this bulletproof stuff with ghee. That's a good transition food, as ghee is a slow burning fat that can hold you over for quite some time.

 

Raw honey of course is the most legit sugar, because it has tons of enzymes. If you want to actually quit sugar but you're addicted, I suggest the honey drinking trick. Buy the most expensive, legit raw honey you can find. Do not buy any from Brazil or China. Brazil is re-branded Chinese honey. China doesn't have honest organic standards, so you don't know what you're getting. Farmers market local is best, local is second best. Get it liquidy and straight up drink it.

 

Water and Minerals

 

Hydrate. I can't stress this enough. If you're going hard on sugar, have a liter of spring water nearby.

Sea salt too. Sea salt is like a mineral supplement. Sugar strips minerals from the body (as does coffee, unless you're putting herbs in it). The reason herbs taste bitter is due to their mineral content. This is also why lemon juice, although "acidic" is ultimately alkalyzing to the body.

 

TL;DR I eat a lot of sugar. Mostly raw honey these days. I learned to use it precisely to activate creativity. Drink lots of spring water with a little sea salt and take bitter herbs to mineralize.

 

 

The reason

[DalTheJigsaw123]

Gabriel Cousens, author of the Rainbow Diet and several books on diet and meditation, says the secret to the success of his meditation training for enlightenment was to avoid all sugar, even fruit.

 

That's when he was at the ashram meditating all the time with Muktananda.

 

For me - basically sugar creates free radicals in the body and the chi energy neutralizes the free radicals causing an internal tingling sensation. Sugar feeds anaerobic bacteria also - so then for me this leaches out of my skull as impurities.

 

So lower the glycemic index of food you can add vinegar or sulfur foods like onion or garlic or salt.

 

Salt though also shuts down the chi energy because salt spikes the stress sympathetic nervous system - overcharges the dopamine while the chi increases from potassium and positive ions. Salt has the chloride negative ion.

 

So anyway this is a huge issue for me everyday since I work with fruit - another thing you can do is "burn" off the sugar - by benchpressing or some other type of intense activity - say horse stance with thighs horizontal for as long as possible.

 

Or pull ups, etc.

 

Sugar causes a spike in the stress cortisol hormone and so it causes inflammation.

 

Another thing is to take cayenne which relaxes the nerves and increases parasympathetic activity.

 

Or you can take terpenes that are antiseptic since again sugar increases the crap in the body - e. coli as anaerobic bacteria.

 

Corn syrup is especially evil since it is an "unbound molecule" contrary to sugar being a bound molecule of glucose and fructose. So that's why the t.v. lies promote corn syrup as the same as sugar when in fact it's way worse than sugar - corn syrup is digested by the liver and turns straight into fat causing a spike in insulin and also obesity while sugar is digested in the small intestine after enzymes have to break it apart.

 

So it depends on the fiber ratio for the sugar - like a banana is the same as a cookie while cherries or blueberries are pretty low glycemic level.

 

Sugar also spikes the insulin levels and then this causes the "sugar blues" - a crash of lethargy which then forces the adrenals to get more sugar from your extremities - and this causes cold hands and cold feet. That's why corn syrup, worse than sugar, actually forces people to get feet amputated.

 

Sugar is a gateway drug since your brain on sugar is the same as your brain on cocaine - and any other substance that spikes your dopamine levels.

 

Green apples have lower sugar levels than red ones.

 

That's about it. good luck with it.

 

Thank you for that! My questions to you is, which diet, or what type of diet closely resembles yours?

[4bsolute]

I figured, the more I am in my heartspace during the day - doing radiance practice to establish a stable universal connection and increasing my holy fire for healing and stronger metabolism/inner alchemy proceses - the less I crave sugar.

 

The heart's main qualities is making you sweeter. So logically you need less external sweeteners.

 

Combine that with an alkaline diet (sweet) so you crave even lesser. Cravings for sugar often (always?) mean our bodies are too acidic due to stress, anger.. all those negative qualities we want to transform.

 

And as we all know, an acidic body is a rapidly decaying body. Spiritual development happens on an alkaline basis.

 

It really is that simple.

 

Personally my body requires (source why I wrote this topic) on the 1 day we go out into the city, buying groceries, much more sugar, then during the other 6days of the week. Last week I ate two buckets of ice-cream in one afternoon and evening. You would not believe this if you see me and how lean I am. My GF still goes ape when she sees what I can eat, if I desire to do so. While she is picky with every calory. Probably due to a low metabolism, naturally. But that's not the point here. Results were that day that I was happy but lethargic. Meditation? Not gonna happening with that sugar high. And lateron I was dead sleeping when I came down.

 

Limit the drug use per week guys.. more inner drugs. Lets all grow up, discover and use the grandness from the inside.

Edited August 5, 2014 by 4bsolute

[4bsolute]

sugar is good for cultivation. as long as you use the energy increase for concentration purposes

 

my friend, the metabolic pathway of refined sugar is horrible...

[MooNiNite]

my friend, the metabolic pathway of refined sugar is horrible...

staying awake late at night and concentrating is an incredible yogic exercise

[ChiDragon]

Sugar should not affect your Chi in any way but aids it. Your body only used up as much sugar as it wants to produce Chi. Then, the rest of the sugar will either stored in the liver as glycogen or go to the bladder which gives you diabetes.

[Stosh]

Sugar should not affect your Chi in any way but aids it. Your body only used up as much sugar as it wants to produce Chi. Then, the rest of the sugar will either stored in the liver as glycogen or go to the bladder which gives you diabetes.

Huh, I thought you promoted the idea that chi was breath, and were very particular about that, are we seeing here a change in that?

 

( some sugars are stored as glycogen in both the muscles and liver - the rest is converted to fat - not going to the bladder- and its the excess insulin production by the pancreas which results in diabetes - which is the failure to continue to produce enough insulin to clear the bloodstream of excess sugars- which then may show up in the urine stored in the bladder in situations of high blood sugar)

[Rara]

Huh, I thought you promoted the idea that chi was breath, and were very particular about that, are we seeing here a change in that?

 

( some sugars are stored as glycogen in both the muscles and liver - the rest is converted to fat - not going to the bladder- and its the excess insulin production by the pancreas which results in diabetes - which is the failure to continue to produce enough insulin to clear the bloodstream of excess sugars- which then may show up in the urine stored in the bladder in situations of high blood sugar)

Well, I thought chi was energy in general and ones own can be cultivated using breath and mind...

 

I still say, surely the difference here is not overloading on refined sugar, but using cane/brown and fruits. Consuming enough that the body needs to function on whatever it is doing at the time.

 

In response to the concentration post a few above (MooNiNite), I have to say that eating a banana or oranges will help my focus in the evening...more than say, black coffee with two sugars...

Edited August 6, 2014 by Rara

[Stosh]

Well, I thought chi was energy in general and ones own can be cultivated using breath and mind...

 

I still say, surely the difference here is not overloading on refined sugar, but using cane/brown and fruits. Consuming enough that the body needs to function on whatever it is doing at the time.

 

In response to the concentration post a few above (MooNiNite), I have to say that eating a banana or oranges will help my focus in the evening...more than say, black coffee with two sugars...

Im just checking on Cd's current stance , lots of folks look at chi ,,,,in their own way.

[ChiDragon]

Huh, I thought you promoted the idea that chi was breath, and were very particular about that, are we seeing here a change in that?

 

( some sugars are stored as glycogen in both the muscles and liver - the rest is converted to fat - not going to the bladder- and its the excess insulin production by the pancreas which results in diabetes - which is the failure to continue to produce enough insulin to clear the bloodstream of excess sugars- which then may show up in the urine stored in the bladder in situations of high blood sugar)

 

The term Chi(氣) in Chinese has multi-definition. In Chi Kung, Chi means air/breathing. In TCM, it means the functions of the internal organs or the energy inside the body. It is a very confusing term. One has to determine its meaning within context. If one translate it as "energy" for all, then it is a big confusing issue.

 

 

PS....

The Chinese only know the term as Chi(氣) but not its exact meaning in their minds when they speak.

Edited August 6, 2014 by ChiDragon

[Stosh]

 

The term Chi(氣) in Chinese has multi-definition. In Chi Kung, Chi means air/breathing. In TCM, it means the functions of the internal organs or the energy inside the body. It is a very confusing term. One has to determine its meaning within context. If one translate it as "energy" for all, then it is a big confusing issue.

I agree, IMO the word chi could use a prefix or suffix to denote what one is referring to.

( better yet , ban the word entirely and use an accurate term)

Edited August 6, 2014 by Stosh

[Rara]

I agree, IMO the word chi could use a prefix or suffix to denote what one is referring to.

( better yet , ban the word entirely and use an accurate term)

I think we just get confused because us Westeners have a completely different (more wordy) language system.

 

I always saw chi as an umbrella term for "life force"...the wind and air being another form of this "breath"...

[ChiDragon]

I think we just get confused because us Westeners have a completely different (more wordy) language system.

 

I always saw chi as an umbrella term for "life force"...the wind and air being another form of this "breath"...

 

Should I say that is a personal issue rather than a language problem....???

[Rara]

 

Should I say that is a personal issue rather than a language problem....???

Usually seems the case with you and the "rest"

 

Do we have many chinese people on the forum btw?

 

It is interesting though...I would like a more straight forward version of TTC at some point...because the western versions are very wordy. I read somewhere that the chinese one is a lot more "blunt" and to the point?

Edited August 6, 2014 by Rara

[ChiDragon]

Usually seems the case with you and the "rest"

 

Do we have many chinese people on the forum btw?

 

It is interesting though...I would like a more straight forward version of TTC at some point...because the western versions are very wordy. I read somewhere that the chinese one is a lot more "blunt" and to the point?

 

Yours truly had done the translation for most the chapters in the TTC section. Perhaps, like you said: "it's a lot more blunt and to the point" but may not be acceptable by the westerners.

 

 

PS.....

Please try not to trap yourself into the umbrella term.

I always saw chi as an umbrella term for "life force"...the wind and air being another form of this "breath"...

 

 

 

Edited August 6, 2014 by ChiDragon

[Goldleaf]

No. But having lots of chi should affect yoiur digestion of sugar

[Rara]

 

Yours truly had done the translation for most the chapters in the TTC section. Perhaps, like you said: "it's a lot more blunt and to the point" but may not be acceptable by the westerners.

 

 

PS.....

Please try not to trap yourself into the umbrella term.

 

 

 

Well, I think it's most important to underatand it in context of how/when it was written as well as the phrasing! Where can I find your translation?

[Sebastian]

If you have spinal problems, or nerval spinal issues more specifically ,Chunyi Lin recommends not to eat to too sweet late in the afternoon and before going to bed. I can't explain why, as he didn't elaborate, but I just heard this from today's healing connection call where he answers questions from people. Also, he said not to eat too much for dinner, as this clogs up the energy system during sleep and impairs natural detoxing function. I guess the spine is central in all of that as well.

[voidisyinyang]

Yeah the science for that is sugar spikes the cortisol which causes inflammation of the nerves - cortisol is a response of the stress sympathetic nervous system. It's always amazing when Chunyi's spirit information corroborates science.

 

The dinner thing he said is because of the 2 hour circadian cycles of the body - that is the Western science take - there's even a science journal on biological rhythms. But the Taoist 2 hour cycle of energy meridians has that I think after 7 pm then it's the heart channel mainly - and so it is very hard on the heart to have to digest food when the energy is not strongest in the stomach channels, etc.

 

I'm still very sensitive to sugar - I get internal tingling even from one plum - but oh well - something about if I am fasting then my body switches over to chi energy and so - it seems to be regardless. I'm still trying to figure out a "modified bigu" diet but it's an everyday struggle.

[ChiDragon]

Well, I think it's most important to underatand it in context of how/when it was written as well as the phrasing! Where can I find your translation?

 

In the Courtyard/Taoist Textual Studies/Tao Te Ching Section:

http://thetaobums.com/forum/254-tao-te-ching/

[Daeluin]

For example figuratively speaking if you would eat on one day of the week 2 large boxes of icecream while being the rest of the day on a mostly vegan, occasionally vegetarian diet.

 

Ack! You caught me! Around when I started posting here a couple months back, I also started a habit of purchasing multiple chocolate milkshakes. Mostly vegan diet, but not strict.... (un)fortunately there are lots of fantastic vegan ice creams where I live, and this has been a long habit of mine. I subsisted primarily on Ben & Jerry's throughout my college days. What a delicious way to eat up the pre-celestial qi of youth!

 

I find that after a lot of good consistent cultivation that actually gets me somewhere, esp with development of shen.... if I start consuming more sugar the shen begins to loosen and expand around me... if I keep consuming sugar it becomes looser still, until it basically gets used to being loose and stays in a fairly scattered state. Makes it much more difficult to ground my shen and clear my mind.

 

I was raised mostly sugar free until I was 6 or so and it became a polarity to try to enforce this in the public school system. I recall a definite change in my overall awareness of self after sugar became part of my diet. Before hand I had been full of energy, but also patient, observant, self-restrained and reflective. After wards I couldn't contain my energy and became much more impulsive. Alas.

 

Also - mosquitoes seem more attracted to people who consume more sugar.

[Rara]

 

In the Courtyard/Taoist Textual Studies/Tao Te Ching Section:

http://thetaobums.com/forum/254-tao-te-ching/

Thanks!