Dalai Lama says no need for successor

[BaguaKicksAss]

Well we can all hope the current one lives a long life .

 

http://www.tibetsun.com/news/2014/09/08/dalai-lama-says-no-need-for-successor

[Anoesjka]

I would think we would need much more Dalai Lama's to help the people of the world. But, you don't have to be called that to be that.

[joeblast]

Well with the discovery mechanism usurped and broken to pieces, the panchen lama in chinese jail... how would such a thing even be done (finding next dalai lama) going forward? It cant, not in the same context, not with the same significance and authenticity.

 

So either the role augments and changes with regard to certain things....or the paradigm itself goes away...

[zanshin]

Let's wish same for Popes. Long healthy life for Francis, then that'll be enough of them.

[Seeker of Wisdom]

HHDL long life prayer:

 

OM SVASTI

O our gurus, and your line of lamas, for whom we have the deepest gratitude,

You who are the repository of the three: secret powers of body, speech, and mind of innumerable buddhas,

Who manifest in a miraculous way to each devotee according to his capacity,

To you, who are the wish-fulfilling gems, the source of all virtues and good qualities,

We offer our prayers with intense devotion

That our protector of the great Land of Snows,

Tenzin Gyatso, upholder of the Dharma, the great ocean,

May live for a hundred eons.

Pour on him your blessings

That his aspirations may be fulfilled.

 

The dharmadhatu, the inexpressible reality that pervades all things like the heavens,

Immaculate, full of great bliss and transcendental wisdom,

Manifests like a cloud the numberless abodes of the higher divinities,

The mandalas of the heavenly beings.

To all the higher forms of the divine ones, the yidams,

We offer our prayers with intense devotion

That Tenzin Gyatso, protector of the great Land of Snows,

May live for a hundred eons.

Pour on him your blessings

That his aspirations may be fulfilled.

 

O you numberless buddhas of the past, present, and future

Who are the masters of the ten powers and teachers of the gods,

Whose attributes of perfection, free from defilements and born of realization

Are the source of the buddha-activity

That appears for all time in the ocean of the suffering of the world

For the sake of all sentient beings —

To you we offer our prayers with intense devotion

That Tenzin Gyatso, protector of the great Land of Snows,

May live for a hundred eons.

Pour on him your blessings

That his aspirations may be fulfilled.

 

O sacred Dharmas of the three yanas,

Which liberate us from the sufferings of the three worlds,

Supremely calm, the jewel treasure of the fully enlightened ones,

Without impurities, unchanging, eternally good, the peak of virtues,

To you we offer our prayers with intense devotion

That Tenzin Gyatso, protector of the great Land of Snows,

May live for a hundred eons.

Pour on him your blessings

That his aspirations may be fulfilled.

 

O all you arya Sangha, awakened and unsullied,

Of highest valour in conquering the suffering of the wheel of life

With the transcendental wisdom that directly intuits the deeper truth,

Never departing from the indestructible vajra abode of nirvana -

To you we offer our prayers with intense devotion

That Tenzin Gyatso, protector of the great Land of Snows,

May live for a hundred eons.

Pour on him your blessings

That his aspirations may be fulfilled.

 

O you dakas and dakinis, heavenly beings of the three worlds,

Who appear in the highest paradises, the sacred places, the cremation grounds,

Who have innumerable experiences of the bliss of the void,

Supporting the yogis in their meditation on the excellent path,

To you all we offer our prayers with intense devotion

That Tenzin Gyatso, protector of the great Land of Snows,

May live for a hundred eons.

Pour on him your blessings

That his aspirations may be fulfilled.

 

To the ocean of guardians of the teaching, who possess the eye of transcendental wisdom,

Carrying on their matted locks the knot

Symbolic of the vows they made to Vajradhara Buddha,

The powerful ones who protect the teaching and the upholders of the Dharma -

We offer you our prayers with intense devotion

That Tenzin Gyatso, protector of the great Land of Snows,

May live for a hundred eons.

Pour on him your blessings

That his aspirations may be fulfilled.

 

To all you guileless ones, in whom we take the excellent refuge,

We pray with intense devotion, humbly, from our very heart,

That by the strength of these verses

Ngawang Losang Tenzin Gyatso,

He who has power over speech, the kindly one,

Upholder of the Dharma, the great ocean,

He who possesses the three secret powers,

May be indestructible, eternal, and without end.

That, seated on the supreme unconquerable throne of the vajra,

He may live for a hundred eons.

Pour on him your blessings

That his aspirations may be fulfilled.

 

You who bear the burdens of innumerable buddhas,

With courage carrying on your shoulders the vast activities of the fully enlightened ones,

Working for the weal of all beings, like the wish-fulfilling gem, the jewel of jewels,

May your aspiration be perfectly fulfilled.

 

By virtue of this may the golden era be opened

Like a gate to the great spaces, liberating all sentient beings,

Coming as the happiness of spring which comforts our sorrows

And helps the teaching of the Buddha to spread in all directions and in all ages,

Making it prosper to the summit of samsara and nirvana.

 

O you with the lotus in your hand, may the nectar stream of your blessing

Strengthen our mind and bring it to maturity.

May we be able to please you by practicing the Dharma;

Through accomplishing at all times the good deeds of the bodhisattvas,

May we reach nirvana.

 

By the blessings of the wondrous buddhas and bodhisattvas,

By the unassailable truth of the spiritual laws of cause and effect,

By the unstained power of the pure mind,

May the aim of my prayers soon be accomplished.

[Protector]

SWEET!!!

[GrandmasterP]

He'll be back.

 

[Nungali]

yes GP , he will ..... so will the 'office'

 

D L is not stupid ... what else is one supposed to say at a 'Sino-Tibetan conference ' ?

 

He is, after all, a very rare breed ; spiritually advanced politician

[Apech]

If there's a vacancy I'm prepared to fill in (providing there's perks).

[Brian]

If there's a vacancy I'm prepared to fill in (providing there's perks).

Like a special hat?

[asunthatneversets]

Allegedly related to the fact that the Chinese government has announced that they will have sole authority over approval of the next Dalai Lama. So possibly a smart move on HHDL's part, he is clearly looking to thwart potential conflict which could arise as a result of controversy over who the authentic Dalai Lama is once the Chinese government has proclaimed a successor. China's govt. would no doubt love the controversy and contention which would result from two contending Dalai Lamas.

[silent thunder]

he's alluded to it before, but this is big...

 

*very deep bow of respect*

 

wow... seriously... wow.

[Protector]

Know what's funny? Legend of Korra season 3 finale

 

IT WAS THE RED LOTUS I TELL YA!!!

[Jetsun]

I bet the Chinese still make one of their own just in case

[JinlianPai]

Yes that is what I was thinking.

 

Him stepping down still doesnt prevent the chinese from making their own.

 

He must know this.

 

So what this move must indicate that by him stepping down that there wont be 2 dalai lamas. One chinese approved the other tibetan approved.

 

Which would mean that if something like this would happen this would only cause more hurt bloodshed and ruin the legacy of the dalai lama.

 

and if thats the case.

 

This really means that the dalai lama the real dalai lama is going to be underground for awhile.

 

The biggest question is why is china hell bent on tibet?

[BaguaKicksAss]

Allegedly related to the fact that the Chinese government has announced that they will have sole authority over approval of the next Dalai Lama. So possibly a smart move on HHDL's part, he is clearly looking to thwart potential conflict which could arise as a result of controversy over who the authentic Dalai Lama is once the Chinese government has proclaimed a successor. China's govt. would no doubt love the controversy and contention which would result from two contending Dalai Lamas.

 

Well that explains it perfectly. NOT a position which should be filled politically.

[BaguaKicksAss]

Yes but he's announcing that it is not from the old tradition which supports it any longer; so at least the spiritual people/buddhists will know that it is no longer valid, and now only politics.

[GrandmasterP]

If there's a vacancy I'm prepared to fill in (providing there's perks).

 

Your name may have been mentioned Apech.

May the DL live forever but if the job does become vacant we'll be sure to keep an eye out for white smoke arising over the TTB forum banner.

HH The Dalai Apech

 

has a nice ring to it.

 

Edited September 9, 2014 by GrandmasterP

[9th]

and now only politics.

 

its an entirely political move

[BaguaKicksAss]

its an entirely political move

 

Political to keep politics out of it for the future .

[BaguaKicksAss]

Apech, I don't think it pays very well .

[Cheshire Cat]

Well... I'm the real Panchen Lama (in the avatar I show the secret "blessing countless sentient beings mudra") and none enthroned me as such because I wanted to learn about other traditions without buddhists filters: I guess that the Dalai Lama wants to do the same thing in the next life.

[Brian]

 

Apech, I don't think it pays very well .

You saying he may need to keep his Moderator day-job?

[Apech]

You saying he may need to keep his Moderator day-job?

 

TaoBum Mod to Dalai Lama it's a demotion.

[Brian]

True, but you'd get to travel.