luciano Posted October 8, 2014 Thanks for your answer. Does 他生 literally means another life and then you have translated as future life? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taoist Texts Posted October 9, 2014 Thanks for your answer. Does 他生 literally means another life and then you have translated as future life? correct, except it is a set combo meaning next life. http://www.zdic.net/c/6/37/86389.htm 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luciano Posted October 16, 2014 I am reading now the author notes and I have one more question: Does 密戶 have the same meaning of 玄關? I am not quite sure about the Chinese characters. Thanks for your help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taoist Texts Posted October 17, 2014 I am reading now the author notes and I have one more question: Does 密戶 have the same meaning of 玄關? I am not quite sure about the Chinese characters. Thanks for your help. Hi Luciano I dont know since i dont have the whole text except this http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_935678810101cj0q.html In general 密戶 = kidneys, while 玄關 refers to energy passages, but the usage varies from author to author. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luciano Posted October 19, 2014 I have the main text in Chinese and the notes in Portuguese were added by a Chinese teacher that has lived here in Brazil. In one of his notes he says that 玄關 (translated as the mystery or black portal) is also called the secret portal. He also adds the pin yin for the secret portal (Mi Hu), but he does not inform the Chinese characters. So, I have assumed looking at the dictionary that it could the characters 密戶, but I am not sure about it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luciano Posted October 20, 2014 I have the Pin Yin names of the main lineage of masters since Lao Zi till nowadays for the main schools. Where can I find the Chinese characters for these main lineage masters? Thanks, Luciano. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dawei Posted October 21, 2014 I have the main text in Chinese and the notes in Portuguese were added by a Chinese teacher that has lived here in Brazil. In one of his notes he says that 玄關 (translated as the mystery or black portal) is also called the secret portal. He also adds the pin yin for the secret portal (Mi Hu), but he does not inform the Chinese characters. So, I have assumed looking at the dictionary that it could the characters 密戶, but I am not sure about it. 玄關 usually refers to the third eye area; if what TT says of 密戶= kidneys, then the locations don't really add up... but I think we can over-think this and the added pin yin may be nothing more than a synonym (?) but it doesn't seem to really help. I am enjoying the thread. thanks. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dawei Posted October 21, 2014 I have the Pin Yin names of the main lineage of masters since Lao Zi till nowadays for the main schools. Where can I find the Chinese characters for these main lineage masters? Thanks, Luciano. I would say, start a new thread with the Pin Yin in http://thetaobums.com/forum/239-taoist-textual-studies/ sounds interesting. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
宁 Posted October 21, 2014 乾坤定位,人物生焉。 Qian and Kun establish their positions (at creation of the world) so humans and things are born from there. 人物之生,亦来源于此炁。 at this birth of human and things also this qi originally comes. second phrase: the birth (creation) of all men and things have this Qi as [point of] origin 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luciano Posted October 21, 2014 How can I attach a picture of the masters lineage tree with the Pin Yin names? Thanks, Luciano, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dawei Posted October 21, 2014 Go to the button at the bottom, "More Reply Options". Then scroll down and you'll see an Attach Files area below the area you type in 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luciano Posted October 21, 2014 Find in attachment the Pin Yin names of daoist masters main lineage. I would like to know the corresponding Chinese characters. Unfortunatelly, the Pin Yin transliteration is not perfect and does indicate the tones. This is one of the notes that the Chinese teacher has included for the book about the Immortality Way. Thanks for helping! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luciano Posted October 22, 2014 As you can see in the image attached in my last post, the last name in the tree is Ma Bing Wen (He Yang Zi), written as Ma He Yang, the author of the book that we are discussing in this post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luciano Posted November 26, 2014 Dear friends, I have found another sentence that I am not quite sure about its meaning. Could you please help me? 渾淪無際 Thanks a lot, Luciano. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taoist Texts Posted November 26, 2014 Dear friends, I have found another sentence that I am not quite sure about its meaning. Could you please help me? 渾淪無際 Thanks a lot, Luciano. Hunlun (the primal chaos) without borders 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dawei Posted November 27, 2014 Hunlun (the primal chaos) without borders Within some context: Hunlun has no boundaries Hunlun, eternal --- We should get the relevant text around this phrase 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luciano Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) Thanks for the answers. I would like to add here the complete sentence, but I can not find a convenient way of copying and pasting the Chinese characters. By the way, I could not find in any dictionary hunlun characters together meaning Primordial Chaos. Edited November 27, 2014 by luciano Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dawei Posted November 27, 2014 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundun Hundun 混沌 was semantically extended from a mythic "primordial chaos; nebulous state of the universe before heaven and earth separated" to mean "unintelligible; chaotic; messy; mentally dense; innocent as a child". 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites