UNDENIABLE truths

[Tibetan_Ice]

Change is the only constant.

Then constants must change too, so why doesn't that happen?

Is permanence a misnomer?

Edited September 18, 2014 by Tibetan_Ice

[Marblehead]

Then constants must change too, so why doesn't that happen?

Is permanence a misnomer?

Hehehe. Those are your questions. See if you can answer them. (I can't.)

[Bud Jetsun]

Text inherently can not contain Truth. Text can express "human reality truths" which is exclusively delusion, but can be beautiful and seem true-like if one chooses to interpret it in a true-like way (yet it is still just someones personal interpretation).

 

Words/text attempting to represent human reality truths (aka someones delusion) are at best shadows of the real truth.

 

Impermanence - If you gained awareness of a thing in the material world it is formless energy momentarily providing the illusion of a defined form in the void of oneness.

 

There is only oneness- The oneness a consciousness can know has the illusion of being contained exclusively in the thoughts of the being perceiving it, but is still an artifact of perception, as there is only void/oneness.

 

Oneness and void- All things are all things. No things are no things. All things are no things. No things are all things.

[Tibetan_Ice]

Hehehe. Those are your questions. See if you can answer them. (I can't.)

Well is it true that in order to detect movement or change, one must observe from a fixed vantage point?

Is it true that in order to precipitate time, there has to be a basis which is still and outside the influence of time?

 

It would seem logical...

[Anoesjka]

Well is it true that in order to detect movement or change, one must observe from a fixed vantage point?

Is it true that in order to precipitate time, there has to be a basis which is still and outside the influence of time?

 

It would seem logical...

Now here comes Einstein's special relativity theory into play.

 

[Captain Mar-Vell]

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That all truths are deniable is an undeniable truth.

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[Marblehead]

Well is it true that in order to detect movement or change, one must observe from a fixed vantage point?

Or at least some point of reference.

 

Is it true that in order to precipitate time, there has to be a basis which is still and outside the influence of time?

 

It would seem logical...

I don't know if I can answer that question.

 

I am sure any religious person would say yes. But I'm not religious.

 

My best understanding of the theory of the beginning (Big Bang) is that there was Singularity. That is, all things (energy) was compacted into a very small essence. (I couldn't say "space" because space did not yet exist.)

 

When this Singularity could no longer contain itself it "banged". Similar to a massive star going super nova.

 

This was the beginning of time, space, and all differentiated energy.

 

Is there something in a void at the center of the universe that contains "first cause"? I doubt it but then, how can one detect void?

 

For me, it is better to consider cycles and reversion than it is to consider "first cause".

 

And if cycles and reversion are considered we can simply say that existence is eternal, there was no beginning nor will there be an end. A "first cause" then is not needed.

[Apech]

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That all truths are deniable is an undeniable truth.

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Nope.

[Captain Mar-Vell]

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Edited September 18, 2014 by Captain Mar-Vell

[Brian]

Now here comes Einstein's special relativity theory into play.

 

Bravo!

[3bob]

emptiness is a highly abused word

[Marblehead]

emptiness is a highly abused word

That, Sir, is, in my opinion, an undeniable truth.

[Tibetan_Ice]

Too bad Einstein never investigated awareness.

Awareness, being omnipresent does not have to travel faster than the speed of light because it is already there.

[Marblehead]

Too bad Einstein never investigated awareness.

Awareness, being omnipresent does not have to travel faster than the speed of light because it is already there.

There is an unfinished Chuang Tzu story about that.

[Bud Jetsun]

C (speed of light) is no limitation.

C is a product of the delusion of time (an artifact of conventional human perception limitations) and distance (an artifact of limited perspective).

 

Einstein had a coin to flip on taking the guess of relative nature making space and time inseparable and one in the same, or choose to believe in entanglement of all things giving the illusion of being "matter". He thought it seemed too unbelievable that all 'things' across all 'distance' would have instantaneous links between them, he coined it "spooky action at a distance" and chose to believe C was some hard rate limitation instead of universal entanglement.

 

Later experiments in quantum mechanics showed conclusively, even over hundreds of thousands of light-years of 'distance' (doing the double slit experiment set with 'star-light' from telescopes), that entanglement is instantaneous to the limitations of current human tools to measure it.

 

This shows not only is C no sort of limit at all, but that C itself is nothing more than a byproduct of a pair of delusions, time and space.

 

Relativity was known to be obsolete before it was adopted, however due to the reality-crippling impact of ego's in 'science' (faith based belief of reality chosen by a close-minded committee on the mis-interpretation of human perception artifacts), it tends to only advance one old 'scientists' funeral at a time, quite irrelevant of current experimental observation (which is also inherently showing only perception artifacts).

 

When one thinks in terms of 'time', one is confusing the delusion of there own perception limitations.

When one thinks in terms of 'space', one is confusing the delusion of there own perspective limitations.

When one thinks in terms of 'rate', one is thinking of an artifact created by dividing the delusion of 'space' by the delusion of 'time', the result is a construct product. Or if you take Einstein's slightly more correct space-time unity approach, 'rate' is a product of one delusion and some constructs. :-)

 

There can only be the void/oneness of ones mind. When one is choosing to having beliefs and thoughts based around ones beliefs, this is called delusion. While one chooses to maintain delusion, it matters not how much ritual and practice one puts into achieving enlightenment, until the delusions cease the enlightened state of being can not be recognized.

 

With unlimited Love,

-Bud

[Jadespear]

All belief stems from the facts of symbolism. Symbols are what make up our inner mental working of thought. All language is symbolic in the nature of temporary significance to be made meaningful.

 

"Truth is a path less land. " JK

 

[Mystique Enigma]

Undeniable truth......... Hmmmmmmm

 

You are here to listen to what you want to hear.....

 

[9th]

With unlimited Love,

 

"In order to understand the meaning of the division into cosmoses and the relation of cosmoses to each other, it is necessary to understand what the relation of zero to infinity means. If we understand what this means, the principle of the division of the universe into cosmoses, the necessity of such a division, and the impossibility of drawing for ourselves a more or less lucid picture of the world without this division will immediately become clear to us.

 

"The idea of cosmoses helps us to understand our place in the world; and it solves many problems, as for instance, those connected with space, with time, and so on. And above all this idea serves to establish exactly the principle of relativity. The latter is especially important for it is quite impossible to have an exact conception of the world without having established the principle of relativity.

 

"The idea of cosmoses enables us to put the study of relativity on a firm basis. At the first glance there is much that seems paradoxical in the system of cosmoses. In reality, however, this apparent paradox is simply relativity.

 

"The idea of the possibility of broadening man's consciousness and increasing his capacities for knowledge stands in direct relation to the teaching on cosmoses. In his ordinary state a man is conscious of himself in one cosmos, and all the other cosmoses he looks at from the point of view of one cosmos. The broadening of his consciousness and the intensifying of his psychic functions lead him into the sphere of activity and life of two other cosmoses simultaneously, the one above and the one below, that is, one larger and one smaller. The broadening of consciousness does not proceed in one direction only, that is, in the direction of the higher cosmoses; in going above, at the same time it goes below."

 

[silent thunder]

among observable phenomena, change is constant...

[silent thunder]

'It' all comes from the same source...

[ThisLife]

among observable phenomena, change is constant...

 

If you want things to stay as they are, things will have to change.

Edited September 21, 2014 by ThisLife