Wun Yuen Gong Posted September 8, 2007 Does anyone have any indepth information on what type of meditation and other chi cultivation methods he used? I read his stillness med practise was similar to Buddhist chan med? Does it involve micro cosmic orbit or did micro comes after Lao Tzu? Cheers WYG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taomeow Posted September 8, 2007 Does anyone have any indepth information on what type of meditation and other chi cultivation methods he used? I read his stillness med practise was similar to Buddhist chan med? Does it involve micro cosmic orbit or did micro comes after Lao Tzu? Cheers WYG Try Chapter 15. It describes a meditative state of being of the sage at all times, somewhat similar to what you might see in a high level taiji master. Stillness is an internal state, externally it manifests as interactive competence and precision. It's careful awareness of one's surroundings not thwarted by inner turmoil and therefore very clear and accurate. This clear awareness results in a kind of harmonious match between the sage and his or her surroundings -- either complete non-interference when interference would disturb the flow, or timely and precise action when that's what the flow warrants. The sage observes the flow and feels it at all times, so he or she can step into it as an organic part of it, not clashing, not making a splash -- moving when the flow moves, keeping still when stillness is what will harmonize with the medium. Meditation Lao Tzu style doesn't "impose" stillness on the flow, rather it matches stillness with stillness and motion with motion, at a high level of space-time sensitivity. "A sage follows the course of time by grabbing time by the tail and riding it" -- in Wen Tzu's rendition of Lao Tzu's oral teachings. The microcosimic orbit is a reflection of the structure of the universe on the micro level of the human system. The discovery is proto-taoist and predates Lao Tzu by at least four thousand years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beancurdturtle Posted September 8, 2007 Good response Taomeow. It's, like, 24/7 baby. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
三江源 Posted September 8, 2007 what you describe so nicely there, TaoMeow, is what I experience/consider as the daily result of meditation. Interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mYTHmAKER Posted September 8, 2007 In other words being in the moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beancurdturtle Posted September 8, 2007 In other words being in the moment. Yeah. If you're anywhere else, you're not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doc benway Posted September 9, 2007 Does anyone have any indepth information on what type of meditation and other chi cultivation methods he used? I read his stillness med practise was similar to Buddhist chan med? Does it involve micro cosmic orbit or did micro comes after Lao Tzu? Cheers WYG Be a little careful here - Laozi may have been a historical character but also may simply be a legend. Nothing really is know for certain about his life. The authorship of the Daode jing may have been a single person or may have been a compilation of earlier wisdom from multiple sources. Unanswerable questions. What does seem likely is that most of the Daoist meditative traditions converge on some basic common themes as Taomeow eloquently described. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dwai Posted September 9, 2007 Does anyone have any indepth information on what type of meditation and other chi cultivation methods he used? I read his stillness med practise was similar to Buddhist chan med? Does it involve micro cosmic orbit or did micro comes after Lao Tzu? Cheers WYG Try reading this book -- Nine Nights with the Taoist Master Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wun Yuen Gong Posted September 9, 2007 Thanks ive just ordered it, sounds like a great read!? Do you have any other books you think that would help understand how Lao Tzu taught inner work? regards WYG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites