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[Flolfolil]

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[mike 134]

100 orgasms a day ? Most i had was maybe 40 its not good for the penis capillaries in the head will start bursting after too many.

[Protector]

When I saw the pictures I started laughing

[ralis]

hey everyone, iv been going through a lot of crap lately and i apologize if thats held up the board at all. i felt the need to post a thread with this link, and see what kind of responses it gets

 

http://nypost.com/2014/09/22/the-living-hell-of-the-man-who-orgasms-100-times-a-day/

 

The NY Post is a tabloid and will sensationalize to sell papers. Do you believe everything you read? The Post is owned by Rupert Murdock.

Edited September 23, 2014 by ralis

[Flolfolil]

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[joeblast]

100 orgasms a day ? Most i had was maybe 40 its not good for the penis capillaries in the head will start bursting after too many.

be careful with the abuse, that along with spiritual practices, you might as well just punch a hole in your water jug for the journey.

[GrandmasterP]

That poor man.

He mustn't know if he's coming or going.

Edited September 23, 2014 by GrandmasterP

[Daeluin]

Very odd. Is this only hype or is it possible?

Or is this media sensationalization simply more evidence of a odd and powerful qi imbalance?

[Daeluin]

no actually i was posting it for a laugh because im experiencing a lot of people and animals dying around me right now

 

sounds like a powerful equinox experience.

 

hope you found a way to balance.

[ThisLife]

Thread titles like this in a supposed 'spiritual forum', to any visitors make it look like more like a compost heap for utter fruitcakes, than a place they might go for genuine enquiry. It strikes me as how, in exactly the same way, most people are unhappy to see their neighbour let his house and garden slide into slovenly rack and ruin,.... because it reflects on the entire neighbourhood .

 

Perhaps it would be more in line with the ethos of this place to spare a thought for the image you create for it when you post pre-adolescent nonsense like this.

[Daeluin]

They say a group hikes at the pace of its slowest person.

 

When this person starts lagging behind.... some like to laugh and poke fun at. Others like to point out how the person is slowing the whole group down. The former relieves the pressure of inner struggle by dumping it on another - the latter places extra pressure on another by emphasizing expectation.

 

Both cause the straggler to feel outcast, enforcing separation rather than unification.

Edited September 23, 2014 by Daeluin

[ThisLife]

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The analogy of a caring group kindly hiking at the pace of the slowest hiker, takes the point I was trying to make about endeavoring to maintain some kind of standard, and subtly transforms it into something completely different. My objection has nothing to do with "slowness", it has to do with a growing proliferation of one of the least attractive qualities possessed by many young males - a puerile fascination with penises, genitalia, sexual 'kinkiness' and all the many other forms of bravado usually displayed by pimply adolescents. There was a thread here a while back questioning why there are so few women on this forum. In my opinion, you don't have to look much further than the extraordinary and increasing number of titles like this.

 

To give you a different viewpoint on an issue that many of us guys may well be inclined to blindness about, (because for most of us, it's been an accepted part of our hard-wiring since leaving childhood),... here's a trawl I've done through all the current titles on this forum in only the FIRST TWO pages :

 

 

(1) The Living Hell of the Man who Orgasms 100 Times a Day

 

(2) Semen Retention: 100 Days and My Experiences

 

(3) Addiction to Lust/Porn/Women

 

(4) Creativity and Sexual Energy are like husband and wife.

 

(5) Embarrassment at the nightclub....

 

(6) Relaxation of the seminal ducts

 

(7) How to control/transmute excessive sexual energy?

*

 

Seriously,... what does that say about this forum to any visitor ? Particularly any who may be female ?

 

Rather than the analogy of everyone here slowing down to accommodate the hiker who can't maintain the pace, I think it's more like the analogy of running the risk of allowing the growth of seven rotten apples like the ones above, to make the whole barrel worthless.

 

Liberalness always sounds like a virtue when you compare it to totalitarianism, or other similarly negative alternatives. But my opinion is that all too often the liberal acceptance of anything going down, is simply the step before decadence, decay, and degeneration. Topics like those above are the high school equivalent of the boys never-ending love of drawing penises and scrotums in textbooks with that peculiar titillating thrill that comes from the thought, "Some girl will be shocked and horrified when she sees what I have drawn !"

 

Surely we can do better than this on a spiritual Forum. I think this kind of tripe is a shame and disgrace to the very name of Taoism.

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[Ish]

Well many of those threads are about legitimate queries, just because something is about sexual energy doesn't mean its "dirty" or juvenile. It's actually a pretty important topic for cultivation.

 

Though i will agree that some of the threads in your list are a bit silly. (like this one should be in off-topic IMO )

Edited September 23, 2014 by Ish

[Flolfolil]

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[Songtsan]

Well maybe instead of creating a female cultivation forum, they should just have a male sexual cultivation forum instead, and all posts of this nature just get shunted there..

 

anyways, as to the original thread topic, I was like 'Dammmmmnnnn!' - after reading the article I was like 'Bullshit!'

 

I don't think I ever made it past 5 times a day, now I am like once a month or less...I had an association memory of this nature show I watched where this lion was mating with a lioness in heat for like the who knows what time (it was a lot), and when he finished, he had this look on his face like he was super suffering and pissed off...

 

usually if I have the urge to splurge, I just visualize myself doing it over and over in all kinds of neat ways and scenarios, until I get bored with it and my mood shifts towards other interests...

Edited September 24, 2014 by Songtsan

[Daeluin]

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The analogy of a caring group kindly hiking at the pace of the slowest hiker, takes the point I was trying to make about endeavoring to maintain some kind of standard, and subtly transforms it into something completely different.

 

Does it? The standard hiking pace you envision appears to be a tad quicker than the current status quo.

 

My objection has nothing to do with "slowness", it has to do with a growing proliferation of one of the least attractive qualities possessed by many young males - a puerile fascination with penises, genitalia, sexual 'kinkiness' and all the many other forms of bravado usually displayed by pimply adolescents. There was a thread here a while back questioning why there are so few women on this forum. In my opinion, you don't have to look much further than the extraordinary and increasing number of titles like this.

 

 

Seriously,... what does that say about this forum to any visitor ? Particularly any who may be female ?

 

I think it says that in the long history of taoism there has been a bit too much focus on this kinda stuff, and the tides of karma are letting us know this is one of the main things that comes to mind when people think about taoism.

 

Rather than the analogy of everyone here slowing down to accommodate the hiker who can't maintain the pace, I think it's more like the analogy of running the risk of allowing the growth of seven rotten apples like the ones above, to make the whole barrel worthless.

 

In TCM I've heard you never want to cut away what is too strong (in our case the flood of sexual inquiries), but rather you want to strengthen everything else. To oppose is to maintain anyway, so I doubt you'd get very far with policing what appears to be an endless train of new posters who have been outfitted with expectations of instant gratification in lieu of search technology.

 

Liberalness always sounds like a virtue when you compare it to totalitarianism, or other similarly negative alternatives. But my opinion is that all too often the liberal acceptance of anything going down, is simply the step before decadence, decay, and degeneration. Topics like those above are the high school equivalent of the boys never-ending love of drawing penises and scrotums in textbooks with that peculiar titillating thrill that comes from the thought, "Some girl will be shocked and horrified when she sees what I have drawn !"

 

These days apparently it's the girls that draw them.

 

Surely we can do better than this on a spiritual Forum. I think this kind of tripe is a shame and disgrace to the very name of Taoism.

.

 

Actually I think that idea of a "Men's Cultivation" subforum might be pretty great. Then we can compare and contrast with the women's and see at a glance which side is more cultivated.

 

Edit: Started a thread to see if there's any support for this here: http://thetaobums.com/topic/36418-mens-cultivation-forum/

Edited September 24, 2014 by Daeluin

[Protector]

Men are clearly obsessed with jazz... wait

[Flolfolil]

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[Songtsan]

If it weren't for sex, none of us would exist. So it can't be that profane.

 

Also, look at some of the temples in India. Sex used to be venerated - you know Shivalingams and Yoni sculptures, fertility Goddesses, etc.

 

What's wrong is stigmatizing someone else's supposedly purile fascination with objects, when we are all fascinated by objects of one type or another, including spiritual objects, such as Buddha statues or Mandalas.

 

Seeing greater than or lesser than is mind created suffering.

Edited September 24, 2014 by Songtsan

[Daeluin]

I think sexual conversations are great and this is a mature place for them.

 

But there does seem to be a fantastic category of topics dominated by the physics of semen and how the hell we're supposed to work with it. Enough to make it seem worthy of its own venerated hall... might also help men learn to treat their sexuality a little more sacred as well. There's a lot to divine masculinity people miss out on.

 

Flolfolil... I came across this...

 

as a general rule, i only make threads about things that are very close to my heart and need real guidance for and stay away from posting threads about things i don't -really- care about. this tends to get me pretty upset when they get derailed.

 

... and I can't decide if I want to apologize for derailing a thread you were intentionally hoping would serve the purpose I supported in helping to derail. I'm sorry! And you're welcome!

[JohnC]

Surely we can do better than this on a spiritual Forum. I think this kind of tripe is a shame and disgrace to the very name of Taoism.

.

 

You continue the cycle of shame.

 

The first step is to accept what is, not to fight it.

 

John

[GrandmasterP]

All these retention lads.

( always lads and one suspects that some OPs in this vein were typed using just one hand)

Just as soon as they find a significant other they're off.

Rocks and all.

They aint getting any hence seek to carve a modicum of virtue from their unfortunate necessity.

Edited September 24, 2014 by GrandmasterP

[Silent Answers]

Mrs. GMP will be happy to hear that kind of enthusiasm

[Songtsan]

All these retention lads.

( always lads and one suspects that some OPs in this vein were typed using just one hand)

Just as soon as they find a significant other they're off.

Rocks and all.

They aint getting any hence seek to carve a modicum of virtue from their unfortunate necessity.

I'm at the point where I can get as much as I want and I prefer to get it from myself instead...I love sublimating. Whenever I do it I swear that guys and girls can sense it and they are attracted to me like magnets. I'm a player too and I like to entice...I'm not saying I'm a tease but I make people work for it. As far as I'm concerned, if you are sublimating, you are and you aren't missing something. Its a double edged sword. I am a fan of Karezza however...I'm not a die hard brahmacharya by no means...every boy and girl and in between should enter these realms and see the sites. There is opportunity for enjoyment every which way. But if you haven't concretely explored the trends multiple times, you won't see them. Edited September 24, 2014 by Songtsan

[ThisLife]

Well, after reading through quite a number of interesting and thoughtful responses to my protest against what I perceived as a discouraging growth of childish and cum-oriented topics in this forum, I guess I have to concede that I'm onto a loser with my viewpoint. Therefore, in the spirit of, "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em!", I bow to the winners and will endeavour to accept myself as just one more apple in the barrel. Let whatever topics turn up, turn up, and just carry on without protest. (That's the theory, anyway.)

In passing though, it isn't prudishness, or being offended by "dirty talk" that I object to. It's what I see as the falseness of imagining that the level of ejaculatory fascination that keeps getting brought up here, is actually of a spiritual origin. Or that bringing topics like this to a supposedly 'philosophically-minded' group of people, (like you'd expect to find in a Taoist Forum),.. somehow elevates wanking into a spiritual experience.

Granted, genuine Taoism does have a comprehensive and profound knowledge about sexual matters. But my feeling is that anyone who is actually a practicing Taoist at a level high enough that such matters are of serious concern to him / herself,.... would hardly be coming to an open internet forum like this, either to {a} look for answers, or {b} to give out advice for complete strangers to follow. This forum is just a fun place to hang out in. There are lots of interesting people from all around the world, with very different points of view on "spiritual topics", (as do hundreds of other similar chat rooms dedicated to some particular brand of car, mobile phone, dating, or sports teams.)

But in the end, this is still just a chat room where we all get to dress up and imagine ourselves as either spiritual teachers or seekers, and share our experiences at this level. We're simply a bunch of folk who spend a lot of time sitting at home in front of our computers, shooting the breeze with others in the same situation. And in the same way that I enjoy talking with new people and hearing very different world views,... I personally find it rather distasteful and off-putting when a certain age-group turns up who is still fascinated with bodily excretements, gaseous expulsions from the anus, and the exciting discovery of jizz.

Still, if that's what turns some people's cranks, perhaps the best solution is to grab another beer, wait till this short-lived excitement winds down,... and limpness rules once again. Thankfully, there's always a wide cross-section of fellow nutters in this particular barrel, and the verandah is big enough for a group of high-spirited youngsters to have a verbal circle jerk down at one end while I can still be part of the knitting circle at the other end. Hopefully this little blip of protest won't cause any of us to lose our concentration on the respective implements in our hands.

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Edited September 26, 2014 by ThisLife