Songtsan Posted May 22, 2015 Cheat! Use muscle relaxants! LOL. No really, study savasana technique nightly when you go to bed. Also, get a massage before you do a float...herbs: kava kava, Valerian. Amino acids, etc: GABA, l-theanine....exercise to the point of fatigue (but not exhaustion), then get a massage, then do a float (pee beforehand)... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idiot_stimpy Posted May 22, 2015 I find a lot of the clenched muscle feeling comes from the pit of the stomach. Work on realizing that point and you will have no issues with the rest. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Songtsan Posted May 22, 2015 Mine comes in the hands, feet, scalp, face...its possible that its wherever your energy is excessive...I will look into what you said too..I know that I have tension there as well...also, smoothing out the shen will smooth out the qi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woodcarver Posted May 22, 2015 I've looked into muscle relaxants but the siide effects look sketchy. Massage as well but the price and all  I'll look into what you both listed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maldor Posted May 22, 2015 There are various ways of attaining altered states of consciousness. Some people are likely more susceptible than others.  - Fasting - Sleep deprivation - Sensory deprivation - Intense concentration - Hyperventilation - Trance (induced by dancing and/or dancing) - Use of psychotropic substances  Floating in a tank for an hour our or two is not really going to induce much of an altered state. To have effect I do think these techniques need to be prolonged and I would not advise doing so because it is dangerous ... regardless I doubt there are many people willing to push themselves purposefully to such an extreme.  I would certainly recommend all of the above in small doses purely for relaxation and self investigation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woodcarver Posted May 22, 2015 Honestly I'm tired of all the float talk and fun facts you always hear about but I just see it as different meditation position. That's all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LAOLONG Posted May 22, 2015 It reminds me the rock opera Tommy ,by the who. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Songtsan Posted May 22, 2015 I have yet to try it...I am very experienced in disassociated states through dissociative drugs like MXE and DXM...but those are not for regular use, or use by just anyone...too many issues with psychotic breaks..of which I have had more than a few while on them... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vonkrankenhaus Posted May 22, 2015 Re: ----- "There are various ways of attaining altered states of consciousness." ----- Â Most important may be to understand how it is we are having the consciousness that we do have. Â Then we would know why or how or when to "alter" it. Â Â -VonKrankenhaus 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Songtsan Posted May 22, 2015 @idiotstimpy: that's it! That's where movement originates.... That's why they say move from the LDT. Why its called the willpower center. COG is center of movement... It seems... Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maldor Posted May 25, 2015 Re: ----- "There are various ways of attaining altered states of consciousness." -----  Most important may be to understand how it is we are having the consciousness that we do have.  Then we would know why or how or when to "alter" it.   -VonKrankenhaus  What do you mean by consciousness ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jox Posted May 25, 2015 I had that floating sensory deprivation tank fiveteen years ago and spent quite a lot inside ... after one year and a half I sold it ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Songtsan Posted May 26, 2015 Did you find it to be worthwhile in the beginning? What about towards the end? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
