Just a question

[nova_b]

If an adolescent (male) say, finds out about sex early on and starts masturbating till orgasm by the age of 6 or 7, but doesn't actually have a physical ejaculation until 13 or 14. Are all his orgasms before then considered sort of tantric in origin ? You know because of the orgasm with no ejac, or does that always have to involve seminal fluid traveling up the spinal cord for a male. Just curious. speakin hypothetically people.

[Bearded Dragon]

A question worthy of the pit. Actually, it's probably not even.

[GreytoWhite]

No, doesn't count. I started sexually experimenting at a young age and those confused feelings of having to urinate intensely with nothing to ejaculate are not at all like the meditative orgasm. Seminal fluid itself does not travel up the spinal cord but rather into the bladder during "injaculation." It's more of taking that potential orgasmic feeling and rerouting it toward the brain. One of the easiest ways to get an idea of what this feels like is prostate stimulation, try that then try not to ejaculate and best of luck.

[Aetherous]

Nothing is effectively tantric without a consort, as far as I understand it.

[Spotless]

The entire subject of semen retention and ejaculation is so far from the importance placed on it as to have become dogmatically absurd.

In so called "advanced practices" it might become interesting, but at about the time they become interesting one would hope the entire inertia toward the "interesting" is replaced by the "unfolding" which means by then the proclivity to finding technical answers and techniques to "how do I resolve this problem - what is the answer" become obsolete.

 

For some students it can be a useful tool under the guidance of a teacher. Typically without a teacher it is counter productive and distracting energetically.

Edited October 31, 2014 by Spotless

[doc benway]

The entire subject of semen retention and ejaculation is so far from the importance placed on it as to have become dogmatically absurd.

In so called "advanced practices" it might become interesting, but at about the time they become interesting one would hope the entire inertia toward the "interesting" is replaced by the "unfolding" which means by then the proclivity to finding technical answers and techniques to "how do I resolve this problem - what is the answer" become obsolete.

 

For some students it can be a useful tool under the guidance of a teacher. Typically without a teacher it is counter productive and distracting energetically.

 

Further evidence that "sex sells" even when it has to do with abstinence and retention.

[nova_b]

Very interesting you guys thanks for the input, but what about samanthabhadra and his "penetrating wisdom". attempts at enlightening one self through the right transfer of that sexual energy up the spine to the higher realms. Isn't tantric sex just a tool to help u reach a better mastery of the kundalini?

[nova_b]

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[C T]

Whats your question again?

[Flolfolil]

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Edited March 5, 2015 by Flolfolil