Bubbles Posted November 10, 2014 from what i have read from other sources practicing ZZ could take hours? is that true? can i practice it even just for 10 to 30 minutes daily? Hi judoboy, No need to practice zhan zhuang for hours. In some traditional kung-fu schools, the sifu will ask you to stand in specific position for at least one hour before accepting to teach you. Besides, staying in zz for long durations can create problems if you are not monitored by someone. 10 to 30 mns daily seems fine. Best, 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aetherous Posted November 11, 2014 In old texts, not sure which ones but perhaps the Neijing Suwen, it says that standing benefits the kidneys, but standing too much harms them. Listen to your body, listen to your intuition, listen to your results. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RiverSnake Posted November 11, 2014 (edited) The Interview section and the Q's for Teachers thread are also quite cool. http://thetaobums.com/topic/26816-qsonly-teachers-may-answer/ http://thetaobums.com/forum/356-interviews/ Edited November 11, 2014 by OldChi 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
judoboy Posted November 11, 2014 Hi judoboy, No need to practice zhan zhuang for hours. In some traditional kung-fu schools, the sifu will ask you to stand in specific position for at least one hour before accepting to teach you. Besides, staying in zz for long durations can create problems if you are not monitored by someone. 10 to 30 mns daily seems fine. Best, i see... ill start with 10 minutes and listen to my body if im ready to take my practice further. thank you In old texts, not sure which ones but perhaps the Neijing Suwen, it says that standing benefits the kidneys, but standing too much harms them. Listen to your body, listen to your intuition, listen to your results. thank you.. will do i should take it step by step.. small progress is better than no progress at all The Interview section and the Q's for Teachers thread are also quite cool. http://thetaobums.com/topic/26816-qsonly-teachers-may-answer/ http://thetaobums.com/forum/356-interviews/ thank you, ill check it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thelerner Posted November 11, 2014 When I do Zhan Zhang often I'll listen to Rawn Clark's Archaeous system. It's a hermetic element stacking system. Its 15 minutes long and works very well with standing practice. Leg region corresponds to earth, stomach to water, chest to air etc., As you progress, you move to subtler pieces of your elemental makeup. Its an interesting system and it makes the 15 minutes go by quickly. You get in your standing and learn a valuable system. A purist would say that you lose something by not having to face your own mind while standing and they're probably right, but there's a nice gain too and you can switch up. The series is free and downloadable at abardoncompanion.com . 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sebastian Posted November 11, 2014 When I do Zhan Zhang often I'll listen to Rawn Clark's Archaeous system. It's a hermetic element stacking system. Its 15 minutes long and works very well with standing practice. Leg region corresponds to earth, stomach to water, chest to air etc., As you progress, you move to subtler pieces of your elemental makeup. Its an interesting system and it makes the 15 minutes go by quickly. You get in your standing and learn a valuable system. A purist would say that you lose something by not having to face your own mind while standing and they're probably right, but there's a nice gain too and you can switch up. The series is free and downloadable at abardoncompanion.com . Hi TheLearner, Thanks for the reference. I can't find this though, is it lesson 1 at the bottom of this page http://abardoncompanion.com/MP3-Links.html ? Basically the first one under Rawn's Self-Healing Archaeous ? Thanks, Seb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
judoboy Posted November 12, 2014 When I do Zhan Zhang often I'll listen to Rawn Clark's Archaeous system. It's a hermetic element stacking system. Its 15 minutes long and works very well with standing practice. Leg region corresponds to earth, stomach to water, chest to air etc., As you progress, you move to subtler pieces of your elemental makeup. Its an interesting system and it makes the 15 minutes go by quickly. You get in your standing and learn a valuable system. A purist would say that you lose something by not having to face your own mind while standing and they're probably right, but there's a nice gain too and you can switch up. The series is free and downloadable at abardoncompanion.com . thanks for the advice wow i have so much to learn, just getting started in my qi gong and ZZ... I can only do 10 minutes of ZZ as of the moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sebastian Posted November 12, 2014 I can only do 10 minutes of ZZ as of the moment. That's already really solid ! Good job ! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thelerner Posted November 12, 2014 (edited) Hi TheLearner, Thanks for the reference. I can't find this though, is it lesson 1 at the bottom of this page http://abardoncompanion.com/MP3-Links.html ? Basically the first one under Rawn's Self-Healing Archaeous ? Yup. Self-Healing Archaeous. Good stuff, I usually do my standing to level 1. All his systems are fascinating. If you can get into the right groove his Center Of Stillness guided meditation is impressive, a great teaching of separating the senses. In the shower I'll usually do a few rounds of his Magic of IHVH-ADNI. Edited November 12, 2014 by thelerner 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
judoboy Posted November 12, 2014 That's already really solid ! Good job ! thank you Seb... hope to improve more 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sebastian Posted November 12, 2014 If you want to delve into the theory more you can read my raccoon thread here. I think the imagery may be highly helpful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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