joeblast Posted November 22, 2014 Hyperventilation from my understanding, is rapid, shallow chest breathing that is not conducive to much aside from getting light headed, where as deep, intense, warrior belly breathing, (from the diaphragm) is what is being utilized in these practices. This was how it was explained to me when I asked that question regarding Tummo. Hyperventilating=hyperoxygenation=you are breathing too fast for your current cardiovascular rate. Does not have to be rapid and slow. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan Posted November 22, 2014 Holding is a good test for the level of breathing. The longer one can hold the breath is an indication of how much oxygen was inhaled in the lung. The more oxygen the longer one can hold the breath. However, as soon the oxygen was used up, one must exhale and inhale for more. I rather breathe deep, slow and long other than holding my breath. Keeping the chi in motion inside the trachea is a normal breathing process. Holding the breath will interfering the normal breathing routine. Anyway, regulating the breath, known as 運氣, is a good practicing habit. Just as the four seasons are required for healthy life, so too are the four phases of breath. You arent wrong, but consider that deep breathing can be achieved by breath retention. Every time you "test" your breath level, you are also subsequently increasing it. Regulation of the breath retention/deprivation is just as necessary as regulating the inhale and exhale. Hyperventilation is good for aerobics, and hypoventilation for anerobics. By saturating the system with oxygen you create a sort of insulation between your organs and muscles from fatigue. By depriving the system of oxygen, you expose it to exhaustion and thereby improve its resistance to fatigue. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted November 22, 2014 You arent wrong, but consider that deep breathing can be achieved by breath retention. Every time you "test" your breath level, you are also subsequently increasing it. Regulation of the breath retention/deprivation is just as necessary as regulating the inhale and exhale. Hyperventilation is good for aerobics, and hypoventilation for anerobics. By saturating the system with oxygen you create a sort of insulation between your organs and muscles from fatigue. By depriving the system of oxygen, you expose it to exhaustion and thereby improve its resistance to fatigue. Likewise to you.... Breath retention was all taken place in the deep, slow and long routine. Deep breathing is to lower the diaphragm to increase the volume of the lung. Slow is to increase the intake of oxygen. Long is to allow more time for the red blood cells to collect the oxygen for the body cells. Hyperventilation and hypo-ventilation do not take place in the Chi Kung practice. Hyperventilation can only be taken place from forcing oxygen, excessively, into the body from an external source. In the other hand, the deprivation of oxygen does expose the human system to exhaustion. However, it does not improve its resistance to fatigue but increase fatigue. Only the continuous provision of oxygen will prevent fatigue. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) oh yes, Qi Gong, perhaps, but i thought this was strictly about the tao of breathing itself, regardless of style, or practice I dont mean to say it prevents fatigue, only that the exposure to it would increase one's personal tolerance of fatigue. Endurance build up. Edited November 23, 2014 by Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted November 23, 2014 oh yes, Qi Gong, perhaps, but i thought this was strictly about the tao of breathing itself, regardless of style, or practice I dont mean to say it prevents fatigue, only that the exposure to it would increase one's personal tolerance of fatigue. Endurance build up. Yes, you are right in all of the above: The "tao of breathig" is only saying that the "methods of breathing". 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites