What do you all do in terms of monetary livelihoods?

[Yasjua]

Feel free to share details in comments, and let me know if additional options are needed to accommodate you.

Edited December 10, 2014 by Yasjua

[Vmarco]

"I stay at home / I don't work / I'm not sure what I'm doing yet"

 

Why can't one stay at home,...or not work in the Groupthink fashion,...and know what they're doing?

 

Seems like a quite biased poll to me,...kind of like Binary indoctrinated Sheeple, who think that there are only 2 genders. Actually,...there are numerous gender identities.

 

IMO,...real happiness does not arise from a "livelihood."

 

I like how Bucky Fuller put it:

 

“We must do away with the absolutely specious notion that everybody has to earn a living. It is a fact today that one in ten thousand of us can make a technological breakthrough capable of supporting all the rest. The youth of today are absolutely right in recognizing this nonsense of earning a living. We keep inventing jobs because of this false idea that everybody has to be employed at some kind of drudgery because, according to Malthusian-Darwinian theory, he must justify his right to exist. So we have inspectors of inspectors and people making instruments for inspectors to inspect inspectors. The true business of people should be to go back to school and think about whatever it was they were thinking about before somebody came along and told them they had to earn a living.” Buckminister Fuller

[Nungali]

Vmarco, please select the correct lifestyle from the range available and insert yourself into it;

 

 

 

 

Edited December 10, 2014 by Nungali

[Yasjua]

"I stay at home / I don't work / I'm not sure what I'm doing yet"

 

Why can't one stay at home,...or not work in the Groupthink fashion,...and know what they're doing?

 

Seems like a quite biased poll to me,...kind of like Binary indoctrinated Sheeple, who think that there are only 2 genders. Actually,...there are numerous gender identities.

 

IMO,...real happiness does not arise from a "livelihood."

 

I like how Bucky Fuller put it:

 

“We must do away with the absolutely specious notion that everybody has to earn a living. It is a fact today that one in ten thousand of us can make a technological breakthrough capable of supporting all the rest. The youth of today are absolutely right in recognizing this nonsense of earning a living. We keep inventing jobs because of this false idea that everybody has to be employed at some kind of drudgery because, according to Malthusian-Darwinian theory, he must justify his right to exist. So we have inspectors of inspectors and people making instruments for inspectors to inspect inspectors. The true business of people should be to go back to school and think about whatever it was they were thinking about before somebody came along and told them they had to earn a living.” Buckminister Fuller

For the record, I spend very little of my year working and appreciate the Fuller quote you included. I personally alternate between short periods of work and longer periods of self-education. I usually spend winters at my dad's place doing research, playing with technology, learning about medicine, making music, writing, and learning new recipes. I travel a few months of the year, and spend about six months a year in cities I'm fond of like Berkeley, Denver, Taos, Chicago and Portland. While I don't see anything particularly wrong with my lifestyle, I am interested in a 'livelihood' in which I can become more knowledgable and experienced. I don't see how a poll can avoid pigeon-holing. The "/" does not represent "and," so you can check the first box if you want and not get defensive about it. I'll just assume you don't fall into the "don't know what I'm doing" category.

[Marblehead]

I am fully retired living off the taxes of the American people.

 

(But yes, I did my time, I paid the price.)

[Vmarco]

The "/" does not represent "and," so you can check the first box if you want and not get defensive about it. I'll just assume you don't fall into the "don't know what I'm doing" category.

The poll for me is another example how I'm isolated from society-at-large.

 

On another note,...I've met some folks who are free spirits that attracts their needs and resources,...but not using their minds. Have met a few professional gamblers too,...whom I suppose attract their needs through an auspicious birth chart.

 

To me,...suggesting that people must work for a living, is sort of like calling the fire department or animal control for those in larger towns, when a cat is up a tree. The point being,...I'd doubt if anyone ever saw the skeleton of a cat in a tree.

[dawei]

I think you need two generic options:

1. I commute to work (any work not listed above)

2. I work from home (most or all of the time)

 

I fall into this last one.

[BaguaKicksAss]

This poll barely defines what I do for income. Self employed doesn't explain it very well.

 

I make magick/occult supplies and jewelry, as well as some spellwork .

 

I sort of figured that on this particular forum, there would be far more people liking what they do than not.

 

I'm curious now, Vmarco, how do you get rent paid (or free) and food on the table? I think sharing non-standard modes of living is a good thing, gives others ideas.

[dawei]

I make magick/occult supplies and jewelry, as well as some spellwork .

 

Wouldn't it be easier to just make some magic money

[Nungali]

Wouldn't it be easier to just make some magic money

 

The government has a monopoly on said magical documents .

[Nungali]

When I was working (instead of living off a pension) I would alternate about 40 / 60 working/funning.

 

I would go away to work (in the film industry) ... focus, save, not spend up big like most of the rest. ..... then that money would support me very comfortably (according to my values) for months at home.

 

In the right rural environment ... one can grow 'produce' and all sorts of 'black market' goodies.

 

(I knew it was being developed and set up, but I got a surprise the other day as I drove out of the north side of the nearby country town where I live .... I looked at a field and it was full of marihuana ... obviously .... the non-stoner type. Some people lobbied for a while, then they got land and and government money to set up a marijuana farm ... for hemp.

 

There seem to be a more free range of alternative opportunities in the country, but less 'work' opportunities... and the reverse in the cities. .... or maybe I just hate the concept of an 'office' .... well, working in someone else's office.

Edited December 11, 2014 by Nungali

[Nungali]

I am fully retired living off the taxes of the American people.

 

(But yes, I did my time, I paid the price.)

 

 

[Vmarco]

 

I'm curious now, Vmarco, how do you get rent paid (or free) and food on the table? I think sharing non-standard modes of living is a good thing, gives others ideas.

I'm sort of a trust fund kid,...although Spirit (through a well aspected Jupiter in the 8th House) created the fund for me.

 

"Follow Spirit without hesitation, or end up following hesitation without spirit."

 

Of course, one can only follow Spirit from their Natal predicament. For me, my trust fund has been enough to sustain me,...which may not have been the case for others. More than many millionaires are still stuck in Maslow's Lowerarchy of Safety and Basic Physiological Needs.

 

For me, I cherish the Taoist-like motto, "relate with what will never leave you, and from which you can never leave."

Edited December 12, 2014 by Vmarco

[Yasjua]

To me,...suggesting that people must work for a living [...]

 

I'm just curious if you work for a living, and if so, what it is you do. I'm not pressuring anyone to work, lol.

[Yasjua]

I lived very freely and separately from the concepts of work and money for a while. I deliberately ignored financial responsibilities and focused on a spiritually trusting attitude. Every time I was out of dough, I'd acquire some totally random inheritance. Once I had $4.00 left in my bank account and I woke up the next day with $1,504.00 --- cause of miracle? A grant someone had "forgotten" to give me six months prior. Or in other cases I'd be given things I needed at more affordable rates, like a new place to rent, or an offer from a relative to travel with them. In any case, I got a little bit bored of manifesting miracles and decided I wanted to exert some personal effort and control into circumstances, so my mind turned toward careers. I haven't found one, but I think the prospect of working deeply and professionally in some topic and gaining expertise sounds interesting to me.

[Vmarco]

When I was working (instead of living off a pension) I would alternate about 40 / 60 working/funning.

 

For me,...beginning 40 years ago this month,...I've been 100% spiritually focused.

 

You are where your attention is,...and where your attention is, you are.

 

A beneficial guideline to live by is to never have more than 7 focuses during any given day....in contrast to Daydreamers, who have 60 per hour. With 60 focuses per hour, it is very difficult for the "universe to rearrange itself to accommodate your picture of reality."

[BaguaKicksAss]

I'm sort of a trust fund kid,...although Spirit (through a well aspected Jupiter in the 8th House) created the fund for me.

 

"Follow Spirit without hesitation, or end up following hesitation without spirit."

 

Of course, one can only follow Spirit from their Natal predicament. For me, my trust fund has been enough to sustain me,...which may not have been the case for others. More than many millionaires are still stuck in Maslow's Lowerarchy of Safety and Basic Physiological Needs.

 

For me, I cherish the Taoist-like motto, "relate with what will never leave you, and from which you can never leave."

 

Nice focus you have taken with that. There are plenty of trust fund kids on th islands around here who do nothing but smoke dope all day.. by nothing I mean smoke and don't even get all creative or do anything after. Nothing wrong with that for awhile or once in awhile I figure, but for decades well not much forward motion imo.

[Nungali]

Smoke dope ??? They ain't proper rich kids !

 

Rich kids are much more trendier than that !

 

[silent thunder]

I was a classical stage actor for 13 years. On the side of that I was a solo stand up comic, and a writer/performer for a three man sketch comedy troupe for a few years, as well as one of the founding members of the Minnesota Shakespeare Co. which is still going strong some 25 years later.

 

I worked as a bartender for 3 years in NYC, that was intense.

 

I was a sculptor for a firm that built casinos.... my work is literally plastered all over Mohecan Sun, Atlantis in the Bahamas and Cesar's in Atlantic City.

 

For the last 16 years I've been building scenery and making props for Broadway and the Hollywood machine.

 

Recently, I'm in a position to start investing in real estate. Mostly, I spend my considerable free time, writing poetry and reading and writing philosophy based on my work cultivating and being a father.

 

We wear so many hats in life.

 

We are verbs, not things.

[Vmarco]

 

 

We are verbs, not things.

Not really,...but does make for a good stepping stone in reducing perceptions to their underlying truth. Those who believe themselves to be things,...such as Sports Fans, Hunters, Trophy Wives, or Children of some god,...are obviously quite deluded. Those who see themselves as Verbs have taken a quantum-like leap towards transcendence. A Verb is as an expression of action. When such a perception is reduced, we are more aware of being reaction, not action,...at which point, the illusion of Duality becomes much easier to observe.

[BaguaKicksAss]

It's really interesting reading about some of what folks do with their not on TTBs time .

[IntuitiveWanderer]

I am unemployed, I spend most of my time meditating and trolling on internet forums.

[BaguaKicksAss]

I am unemployed, I spend most of my time meditating and trolling on internet forums.

 

You might want to find some awesome source of income, so you can get to Serbia and said hut .

[Owledge]

I lived very freely and separately from the concepts of work and money for a while. I deliberately ignored financial responsibilities and focused on a spiritually trusting attitude. Every time I was out of dough, I'd acquire some totally random inheritance. Once I had $4.00 left in my bank account and I woke up the next day with $1,504.00 --- cause of miracle? A grant someone had "forgotten" to give me six months prior. Or in other cases I'd be given things I needed at more affordable rates, like a new place to rent, or an offer from a relative to travel with them. In any case, I got a little bit bored of manifesting miracles and decided I wanted to exert some personal effort and control into circumstances, so my mind turned toward careers. I haven't found one, but I think the prospect of working deeply and professionally in some topic and gaining expertise sounds interesting to me.

It is almost painful for me to read how you are willingly rejecting a great blessing like that.

I try to release control whenever I can, but need some degree of it due to having gotten so much negative feedback from going with the flow and having faith.

My case is even worse. When I don't try to control and force things, nothing substantial happens. When I make an effort to improve my situation, the negative feedback I get is proportional to the effort exerted.

I'd be extremely happy about some substantial blessings coming my way that I can build on, because I feel very burned out from doing nothing due to lack of energy. ... But I'm a bit uncertain and doing nothing often seems preferrable to the available alternatives.