A simple method for witnessing the Divine Light

[Nikolai1]

Hi guys,

 

There are several methods of seeing the Light but, unlike others, this method uses the intellect. As the intellect is a dualistic instrument, we therefore need to use the natural everyday light as a backdrop. It is against this everyday backdrop that the Primordial Light can be dualistically contrasted.

 

1) First we need to understand what we are dealing with. The source of the everyday light is the sun. The sun as we understand it has three characteristics relevant to our purposes. Firstly it is a single object: the source of all light. Secondly, it is constantly shining, and has not extinguished since its creation. Thirdly, it is stable relative to our own movement.

 

2) When the intellect first conceptualizes the primordial light it will need to sharply contrast it with the above characteristics.

 

3) The primordial light will therefore first present itself as a multitude of tiny lights, innumerable, even infinitesimal.

 

4) The primordial lights will be highly ephemeral each tiny light illuminated for the briefest possible instant.

 

5) The primordial lights will be in constant, rapid motion, and shall be clearly discernible against the stable background of things in everyday light.

 

Next follows some rather counterintuitive facts.

 

6) The primordial light is not seen best against a backdrop of darkness. Rather it needs to be seen against a backdrop of everyday light.

 

7) A very bright everyday light source is best, although staring directly at the sun is risky to beginners. The best backdrops in order are sunlight reflected against something shiny (but not a mirror); sunlight reflected in water; snowy fields in bright weather; a clear blue sky when the sun is up and shining.

 

Now some techniques and what you shall see.

 

8) Although the intellect is informing perception of the primordial light through the use of contrast, it is important we modify the acuteness somewhat. Otherwise we will remain in everyday vision.

 

9) The intellect directed vision is the direct gaze. We must therefore distance the intellect by softening our gaze and our focus. This will naturally direct the two eyeballs towards each other and in the middle distance.

 

10) Slowly, often one by one, tiny bright white squiggles shall appear. They appear at first rather like sperm or tadpoles a dot followed by a tail. As your gaze intensifies youll realise that these tails are actually just an effect. Rather like waving a flaming torch on a dark night produces a circle in the air.

 

11) The more you concentrate the more squiggles shall appear.

 

12) Eventually they will fill your entire visual filed with profusion and depth, and the everyday backdrop will feel to you like something secondary and unimportant.

 

This is the primordial light, as first conceived by the intellect. It is an easy and accessible way of getting a sight of the transcendent realm and an introduction to some of the feelings it brings. Indeed, there are many people who can relate to the above without realizing what it means. If you understand the vision and take it seriously you will naturally become more and more fascinated with it. In the next post Ill discuss what happens as the intellect starts to depart from the scene and the need for contrast with the sun disappears.

 

Best wishes, Nikolai

 

Edited December 18, 2014 by Nikolai1

[Tibetan_Ice]

Do you have any references or sources for what you are trying to convey? You seem to be trying to present yourself as someone whom is familiar with thogal practices but your terminology is foreign, and you mix up some of the concepts. You are coming across like an intellectual who is testing your writing ability without any true understanding of the practices, concepts or respect the subject deserves.

Some stupid things that you have said, and wouldn't say if you did practice..

Masters do not stare directly at the sun as you have implied. It would burn out their retinas.

The more you concentrate does not make more squiggles appear. The number of squiggles remains constant.

The squiggles are not primordial light. They are actually the blue field entoptic phenomenon, the little white blood corpuscles moving about in the veins in your eyes.

If bright light is best for viewing then why is the dark retreat used at all?

It is not the intellect that you are training to direct attention to the visual field. You are training the kati channel from the heart to the eyes. The intellect has nothing to do with it aside from trying to stay out of he way and not end up grasping at the visions.

Rather than try to appear knowledgable about something you obviously know nothing about, why don't you provide links to authentic books on thogal? That would help people more than you trying to bolster your ego and prop yourself up as an expert.

Sorry for the admonition, but sometimes you just got to say something...

 

 

Some books...

the Instructions on the Six Lamps. -Archard

the Practice of Dzogchen in the Zhang-Zhung Tradition of Tibet -J M Reynolds

Naked Awareness. -Karma Chagme

Naked Seeing -C Hatchell

 

Also, this topic has been examined here before. http://thetaobums.com/topic/36590-vajra-strands/

Edited December 19, 2014 by Tibetan_Ice

[Tibetan_Ice]

Hi guys,

 

There are several methods of seeing the Light but, unlike others, this method uses the intellect. As the intellect is a dualistic instrument, we therefore need to use the natural everyday light as a backdrop. It is against this everyday backdrop that the Primordial Light can be dualistically contrasted.

 

1) First we need to understand what we are dealing with. The source of the everyday light is the sun. The sun as we understand it has three characteristics relevant to our purposes. Firstly it is a single object: the source of all light. Secondly, it is constantly shining, and has not extinguished since its creation. Thirdly, it is stable relative to our own movement.

 

2) When the intellect first conceptualizes the primordial light it will need to sharply contrast it with the above characteristics.

 

3) The primordial light will therefore first present itself as a multitude of tiny lights, innumerable, even infinitesimal.

 

4) The primordial lights will be highly ephemeral each tiny light illuminated for the briefest possible instant.

 

5) The primordial lights will be in constant, rapid motion, and shall be clearly discernible against the stable background of things in everyday light.

 

Next follows some rather counterintuitive facts.

 

6) The primordial light is not seen best against a backdrop of darkness. Rather it needs to be seen against a backdrop of everyday light.

 

7) A very bright everyday light source is best, although staring directly at the sun is risky to beginners. The best backdrops in order are sunlight reflected against something shiny (but not a mirror); sunlight reflected in water; snowy fields in bright weather; a clear blue sky when the sun is up and shining.

 

Now some techniques and what you shall see.

 

8) Although the intellect is informing perception of the primordial light through the use of contrast, it is important we modify the acuteness somewhat. Otherwise we will remain in everyday vision.

 

9) The intellect directed vision is the direct gaze. We must therefore distance the intellect by softening our gaze and our focus. This will naturally direct the two eyeballs towards each other and in the middle distance.

 

10) Slowly, often one by one, tiny bright white squiggles shall appear. They appear at first rather like sperm or tadpoles a dot followed by a tail. As your gaze intensifies youll realise that these tails are actually just an effect. Rather like waving a flaming torch on a dark night produces a circle in the air.

 

11) The more you concentrate the more squiggles shall appear.

 

12) Eventually they will fill your entire visual filed with profusion and depth, and the everyday backdrop will feel to you like something secondary and unimportant.

 

This is the primordial light, as first conceived by the intellect. It is an easy and accessible way of getting a sight of the transcendent realm and an introduction to some of the feelings it brings. Indeed, there are many people who can relate to the above without realizing what it means. If you understand the vision and take it seriously you will naturally become more and more fascinated with it. In the next post Ill discuss what happens as the intellect starts to depart from the scene and the need for contrast with the sun disappears.

 

Best wishes, Nikolai

 

This should not be taken as any kind of authentic or useful advice or instruction.

(Sorry)

[Aetherous]

Interesting ideas, Nikolai.

There are various types of non-physical light/Light that can be perceived.

One way is to look at a 45 degree angle downward, with the sight not focused on anything in particular, and relax fully. The eyes can be open, partially shut, or closed. If you get in the right state of being (the key to it working), you'll see other types of light besides the sky sperm...a common experience is gold and purple overtaking the field of vision.