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[ChiDragon]

bubbles.....
Now, I really see the inconsistency with the imbalance of yin/yang. Thanks for sharing.

[Bubbles]

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Edited January 14, 2015 by bubbles

[松永道]

@chidragon

Please don't confuse the issue here....!!!

 

Front is yang

Back is yin

 

Expansion is yang

Contraction is yin

Structure and action have their stand alone attributes. There is no difference in the concept of yin/yang between the west and east. No double standards....!!!

 

Expansion is yang. Contraction is yin. Hence when we are awake we straiten our back and stand upright. The back is yang. When we sleep we contract (Daoists believe the fetal position is optimal for a good night's rest and that sleeping in an expanded position - on the back - is bad for health). The front is yin.

 

According to the Lingshu discussion on the 5 yin yang body types: a who slouches or stoops forward is called Shaoyin, a little more yin. A person who stands hips forward, shoulders back is called Shaoyang, a little more yang. Again because the front is yin the back is yang.

 

There is another saying in Daoism, the sage faces south. South is yang. But lest you think that means the front of the body is yang, I'll quote you again, "yang/yang is out of harmony." The front of the body is yin to recieve nature's yang. The back of the body is yang to resist nature's yin.

 

It's true, according to channel theory, a large yang meridian travels down the from of the body. This is called the stomach Yangming meridian. But according to channel physiology Yangming is the closing of yang. It is the most yin of the yang meridians.

 

Ultimately, within yin there is yang and within yang there is yin. But when it comes to calibrating your general bearings, the front is yin, the back is yang. That's the least wrong answer anyways. 名可名非常名！

[ChiDragon]

又安能入二十八字之奧哉。而猶不止此也。陰陽不可不分而剖。色脈不可不合而稽。尺膚不可不詳而考。主病不可不諳而識。四者得而持脈之道。思過半矣。脈要精 微論曰。微妙在脈。不可不察。察之有紀。從陰陽始。始之有經。從五行生。生之有度。四時為宜。彼春之暖。為夏之暑。彼秋之忿。為冬之怒。四變之動。脈與之 上下。是以聖人。持脈之道。先後陰陽而持之。若陽動陰靜。陽剛陰柔。陰升陰降。陽前陰後。陽上陰下。陽左陰右。數者為陽。遲者為陰。表者為陽。裡者為陰。 至者為陽。去者為陰。進者為陽。退者為陰。其恆經也。或陰盛之極。反得陽象。或陽亢之極。反得陰征。或陽窮而陰乘之。或陰窮而陽乘之。隨証更遷。與時變 易。此陰陽之不可不分而剖也。岐伯曰。察脈動靜。而視精明。察五色。觀五臟有餘不足。六腑強弱。形之盛衰。以此參伍。決死生之分。

 

Here are the Yin/yang attributes for the observer viewed from the outside. Outside the TCM as well.

若陽動陰靜。Dynamic is yang; Static is yin

陽剛陰柔。Hard is yang; soft is yin

陰升陰降。Ascend is yang; descend is yin

陽前陰後。Front is yang; back is yin

陽上陰下。Upper is yang; lower is yin

陽左陰右。Left is yang; right is yin

表者為陽。Exterior is yang;

裡者為陰。Interior is yin.

 

 

PS.....

From the TCM perspective, the YANG meridians on the YIN back of the body are in harmony. It is because they have met the interaction within the concept of yin/yang.

 

The quote is from the fourth paragraph:

Ref: 陽前陰後(Yang is the Front and Yin is the Rear)

Edited January 8, 2015 by ChiDragon

[vonkrankenhaus]

Re:

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"Expansion is yang. Contraction is yin."

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Is Diffuse Yang?

Most would classify "diffuse" as "yin".

 

Is Solid Yin?

Most would classify "solid" as "yang".

 

Is expansion associated with diffusion?

Is contraction associated with solidity?

 

In physics, probably yes, to both.

 

So how could it be explained to scientists that expansion, such as what happens to molecules when water is heated, causes Yang, when solidity, the opposite of expansion, is also labeled Yang?

 

-VonKrankenhaus

[松永道]

《素闻·金匱真言論》夫言人之陰陽，則外為陽，內為陰。言人身之陰陽，則背為陽，腹為陰。

Yellow Emperors Simple Questions chapter 4 - True Words from the Golden Cabinet, Qibo states, "On the yin and yang of human beings, external is yang, internal is yin. On the yin yang nature of the body, the back is yang, the abdomen is yin."

 

Edit: By the way Chidragon, your last quote is on the yin and yang of pulse taking. In which case 前 front is referring to the distal pulse position which represents the upper aspect of the body and thus is yang. Back position represents the lower body and is yin.

Edited January 8, 2015 by 松永道

[ChiDragon]

《素闻·金匱真言論》夫言人之陰陽，則外為陽，內為陰。言人身之陰陽，則背為陽，腹為陰。

Yellow Emperors Simple Questions chapter 4 - True Words from the Golden Cabinet, Qibo states, "On the yin and yang of human beings, external is yang, internal is yin. On the yin yang nature of the body, the back is yang, the abdomen is yin."

 

Yes, with respect to body in the TCM application. I buy that but it was looking at the back and the belly rather than the front and back.

 

You are looking at a human body. What is you are looking at a house....???

Edited January 8, 2015 by ChiDragon

[松永道]

By the way I added a comment in an edit to the above post.

 

What do you mean looking at a house?

[ChiDragon]

 

Here are the Yin/yang attributes for the observer viewed from the outside. Outside the TCM as well.

若陽動陰靜。Dynamic is yang; Static is yin

陽剛陰柔。Hard is yang; soft is yin

陰升陰降。Ascend is yang; descend is yin

陽前陰後。Front is yang; back is yin

陽上陰下。Upper is yang; lower is yin

陽左陰右。Left is yang; right is yin

表者為陽。Exterior is yang;

裡者為陰。Interior is yin.

 

 

 

What I meant was apply the concept of yin/yang above to a house rather than a human body.

[松永道]

Ok I thought we were talking about people. If we're talking about the yin and yang of houses then I'll have defer to someone who studies fengshui.

[ChiDragon]

Ok I thought we were talking about people. If we're talking about the yin and yang of houses then I'll have defer to someone who studies fengshui.

 

Thank you!

Well, we were just talking about the fundamental concept of yin/yang in general.

 

The fundamentals should be able to apply to any case. However, there will be more restrictions when the concept was applied to a specialized field. The people in the specialized field will set up their own esoteric terms and definitions. Thus the fundamental shouldn't be confined or abide by other definitions.

 

Have a splendid day.