eye_of_the_storm Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) Humanity in eating flesh and blood are possessed by the destructive spirit.Beyond most appeals to Heart and Mind.Creating Hell realms. Slaughterhouses drenching the Earth in Deadly Orgone Radiation.Humans consuming these fields + the adrenline excretions induced by absolute terror + pain.There is no freedom or peace for so called humanity until that is extended firstly to animals.Image from http://www.elephantjournal.com/2014/11/5-haunting-photos-birds-eye-view-of-what-factory-farms-are-doing-to-us-land/ Edited February 21, 2015 by eye_of_the_storm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lth Posted February 21, 2015 Indeed. The best reason to go vegan is you can eat more ! ... and feel good afterwards 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted February 21, 2015 I thought the pic in the first post was a diseased kidney, until I looked closer. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) Its a technical point, but some meat c an be eaten. The law is based on the protection and respect for animals. Not necessarily on just not eating meat and strict vegetarianism. Of course, the way modern meat production is run is a clear breech of this law. Animals that are to be eaten have to free range, have a healthy diet and be treated with consideration and respect. " Avestan Sages, per the second rhymed verse line of Yasna 32.8, have concluded that the flesh of cow, ox, bull, steer, cattle and wild cattle or “Gáüsh” are not permissible for consumption, (Compare Avetan “Gáüsh” with Proto Indo European gwous, Sanskrit gáús, Latvian guovs, Armenian gaus, German. Kuh, Swedish. Ko, Greek. Bous, English cow or bovine.) This prohibition is extended to cows of the north, (deer, caribou/reindeer, moose and elk,) bison, buffalo, water buffalo, yak, wild cattle, antelope and gazelle. (For Prohibition against consumption of all forms of wild cattle see Bahram Yasht 22-23.) Yet, dairy products of cattle such as milk, yogurt, cheese, butter and ghee are not only allowed but are highly recommended, provided that cattle range freely, are treated very well, that their milk goes to their young first, and that they are fed a strictly wholesome vegetarian diet. Also there is no prohibition against using cows/cattle as working animals; the emphasis is only on their kind and good treatment, (Regarding the benevolent status of the cow see also Bahram Yasht 6-7, Tishtar Yasht 16-17.) The eating of male sheep is reluctantly allowed in the Zoroastrian tradition, while the slaughter of female sheep is strictly prohibited. A sheep cannot be milked and killed at the same time. Furthermore, it is a great sin to take the young from their mother or to slaughter the young or old sheep. If a sheep is used for his wool, it no longer can be consumed as food, but milking a sheep and using her wool at the same time is permissible. Furthermore, the consumption of meat must be occasional and not a regular, every day event. Avestan sages inspired by Bahram Yasht 24-25, have concluded that goat (a highly curious and intelligent animal) is not permissible for consumption, only goat’s butter, milk, cheese and wool are allowed for use Pork is the most widely eaten meat in the World. Yet pigs and wild boar are known for their wit, intelligence and good/gentle nature in Zoroastrianism,(See Bahram Yasht 14-15, Mehr Yasht 127.) Pigs are considered as loving pets with spiritual significance in the Zoroastrian culture. Also, in the Vedic literature, Vishnu takes the form of a boar named Varaha to save the Earth. Also, the story of Freyr’s golden boar in the Norse mythology stresses the innate goodness of pigs/boars in a similar fashion. Pigs/wild boars are not permissible at all for consumption in Zoroastrianism. Rabbit/hare is especially holy in Zoroastrianism and has been named as the spiritual chief/counsel or ratü of animals. Rabbit/hare is said to bring good luck/fortune. The consumption of rabbit is strictly prohibited in Zoroastrianism The prohibition against the killing of Gáüsh in the second rhymed verse line of Yasna 32.8 is also extended to all large sea and land mammals and even large fish (gaav mahi.) The notion of sacredness, hence prohibition against consumption of sea mammals e.g. whales, dolphins, seals, sea otters and sea lions is emphasized yet again in Yasna 42.4 Prohibitions against eating meat do not include fish. For example, meat is forbidden during the whole 11th month and 4 days in each month of the Zoroastrian year, but fish are permitted. But, only small to medium size bony fishes are proper for consumption e.g. sardines, trout, salmon, halibut. But stricter Zoroastrians, during no meat days and the 11th month of the Zoroastrian calendar avoid fish with spines, while permitting shrimps, crustaceans and shellfish or “fish without blood.” However, if the Fish are raised in cramped, unnatural, and unsanitary conditions, it is improper to consume them. Furthermore, large size bony fish species known under the category of gaav mahi are not permitted. Especially Sacred are all Sea Mammals; whales, dolphins, seals, sea lions and sea otter, hence their commercial use of any kind is strictly prohibited, (See Yasna 42.4, Vendidad Chpt 14.) Killer and predatory fishes, e.g. sharks fall into the noxious creature category and are improper for consumption. Also, improper are all marine reptiles and bottom fish. Rooster is considered as an especially sacred animal in Zoroastrianism, its slaughter, ill treatment and sacrifice is strictly prohibited Eggs or flesh of chicken can be used only if the chicken ranges freely, is treated kindly and is fed a strictly wholesome vegetarian diet. Avestan Sages per the third rhymed verse line of Yasna 44.18, have banned both the meat and milk of horses. Horses are noble animals and have great spiritual significance in our religion. This dietary prohibition and admonition for benevolent treatment of horses is extended to donkeys, mules, and zebras as well. The sacredness of horses as noble companion animals is well attested in Tishtar Yasht 18-19, Bahram Yasht 8-9; and the 9thYasht or Drv-asp entire. I should add that horse sacrifice was a common Vedic practice which was utterly despised by the prophet Zarathushtra. Dog is a most holy animal in Zoroastrianism, (See the Chapter 13 of Vendidad.) In fact dogs and horses enjoy a number of legal privileges and special rights in the Zoroastrian jurisprudence. Dogs are not at all permissible for consumption and their most kind treatment is enjoined upon every Zoroastrian. Dogs are also treated very badly in the great majority of Moslem countries. " [ and considered unclean. My Persian friend loves his dogs and his friends reprimand him for it. I told him that is an Arab import from the Muslim conquest, Iranians love dogs ... and they are revered as the 'companion of mankind' ... so the he was able to chastise them for not being 'original Persians ' ] They dont eat all the other meats we probably wouldnt, including camel. The reasons are; 'friendly relations', environmental considerations, (like dont eat owls as owls catch rats), social ( beasts of burden and importance ) or considered noxious. For some reason they despise ants ... " In short, the Zoroastrian dietary laws greatly restrict the killing of animals as food. Of the few animals that may be eaten, they can be either killed (male sheep) or milked (female sheep) and never both. In case of chicken, geese, ducks; either their egg can be used as food or their flesh and never both. Above all, they must all range freely, be treated very well and kindly, fed a strict vegetarian diet. Animals used as pets or working animals can never be slaughtered or eaten as food. Animals cannot be killed when too young or old, the young cannot be taken from their mothers. Furthermore, ravenous meat-eating is prohibited. The simple straightforward rule is to hold our animal friends as sacred; eat what is pure and fresh, not corrupted and rotten, and to avoid eating the noxious pests and creatures belonging to another cycle of creation. Ardeshir. " http://authenticgathazoroastrianism.org/2012/03/05/zoroastrian-dietary-laws-animal-friendship-and-stewardship/ Edited February 21, 2015 by Nungali 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lth Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) Sheep are cute too. No need to kill them. Besides, it wouldn't be fair for other animals. If one specie die another not What if they develop an EGO mind and develop pride and superiority over other animals hm? How will you explain this ?! Edited February 21, 2015 by Lth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted February 21, 2015 The law in Zoroastrianism was developed in a large part, due to environmental protection and balance and social necessity with a tidge of mythological appreciation. Not whether something is 'cute' or not. If an animal is providing milk, wool or other service it is not to be eaten. if it makes it through to old age, it is given pleasant retirement in appreciation. The environmental protection goes as far as the non-pollution of the elements, even fire, certain things are not to be put into fire to keep it pure ... cremation is there therefore forbidden, the dead body would pollute fire ... and the earth ... and the water .... So : 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites