Vaccination - Split from Microchipped Babies

[ralis]

You don't see millions of people with cancer, diabetes, arthritis, multiple sclerosis, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, mental disorders, mood disorders, learning disabilities, reproductive dysfunction, heart disease, liver and kidneys failure, strokes, and the rest of diseases that have been steadily on the rise since the rise of vaccines -- I see billions.  Guess these are not as noticeable as the graphic picture of the disease you posted, the one that was on the declining slope naturally when "conquered" to the tune of hundreds of thousands of vaccinosis deaths (which I know about only because doctors in the family helplessly watched some of them happen -- no reporting, and "vaccinosis" is something only vets are allowed to diagnose in 'overvaccinated' pets -- how much is 'over' for a human child who gets 72 shots these days?...)  

 

And the accusations that those who are not zombified are a danger to public health?  Seriously? 

 

You attribute all the above with no evidence, whatsoever! Scare tactics!

[Taomeow]

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[blue eyed snake]

Really Ralis?

 

 

And this is what Nazi experimentation with vaccines looks like.  (Make no mistake, the ideology of vaccines was introduced by IG Farben and perfected in Auschwitz.) 

 

softenon, around 1960

[blue eyed snake]

Re:

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"The causes of death evolve over time as medicine improves"

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Right now, Iatrogenic Harm (harm from medicine) is the #1 cause of death.

 

Used to be heart disease and cancer, but medicine "evolved".

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

 

Last year i read an article which told that due to the growth of 'elderlysickness' ( don't know a better word, english is not that easy for me, diabetes, for example)  in young people it is deemed probable that on average my generation will survive our kids...

[blue eyed snake]

  Or maybe you would want to look at the way we traded off tetanus (12 cases in all of Europe in all of WWII -- sic!)

 

http://www.vaccinatieraad.nl/wp-content/uploads/tetanus-grafiek.jpg

 

http://nrvs.info/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/tetanus_cases_and_vaccination_rates.png

 

a bit more i think

[Taomeow]

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[blue eyed snake]

Thank you, didn't realize that softenon is an unknown word. What is AP reporting?

( whatever I learn here, it's good for my english..)

[Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan]

I dont even have medical insurance.
I'll outlive everyone who vaccinates. including those born 50 years after me.

[Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan]

I'm already there....  in the future!!!  ooohhh whoa

[Taomeow]

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[C T]

anyone seen this video yet? It was on Irish media today. 

(adding some fuel to the debate   )

 

[blue eyed snake]

thanks, now I understand your remark about AP reporting. That was the reason I've been asking for sources, a good source is sometimes hard to find. When you have a good one, often you find more through following links.

 

And indeed, thalidomide has nothing to do with the subject of vaccinating, that was the reason I posted it.

[blue eyed snake]

Methinks it does.  http://www.ageofautism.com/2012/09/thalidomidethimerosal.html

 

why do you think it does?

they are two different substances thalidomide was give orally,( as an over the counterdrug forgossake... ) molecule formula's are totally different, look at wiki for info at that

[blue eyed snake]

anyone seen this video yet? It was on Irish media today. 

(adding some fuel to the debate   )

 

 

you really think we need more fuel?    

[C T]

you really think we need more fuel?    

nope... but its a good debate so far, and adding the video does not really jeopardise it. It is hoped anyway. 

 

I'd be inclined to say 'yes' to vaccinations, but can't be a hundred percent certain that non-vaccination is harmful. Whether it brings benefit... thats another thing to ponder over. I suppose there are inherent risks any which way. 

[Taomeow]

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[eye_of_the_storm]

eye of the storm, a billion or two people moving from this: a City (w/ highrise living) spreading out into this beautiful cabin (wood burning?) with 10 idealyic acres would be horrible for the planet.  Strangely enough city life, having 400 people living in one tall building is probably more ecological responsible then 100 cabins taking up a few squaire miles.   Wood burning is horribly inefficient and polluting.  Without modern farming we'd probably kill all wild life within a few years, not to mention finishing the job of deforesting the earth.   We are 7 billion people and counting.

 

High-rise more ecologically responsible?

 

Where do people who live in cities get food, fuel, electricity, building material etc from? Cities are dead space vacuums sucking the life out of the planet.

 

A vegetarian family* can easily live on a few acres, being say 90% self sufficient.. even growing their own timber on 1/2 to 1 acre supplying everything they need…  1/2 an acre of hemp for food and fuel also?

 

Everything would be locally grown organic. No shipping, fuel etc, much less materials needed to build cars, trucks, roads… nor people having to travel daily to generally miserable jobs for the most part simply to feed themselves (with poor quality GMO food from supermarkets) + basic shelter.

Vast amounts of forests, rivers, oceans are being destroyed to support these cities.

 

Permaculture / Forest farming family gardens would increase biodiversity + an abundance of super vital food … opposed to vast amounts of land being used for animal consumption/ corporate mono-crops turning the world into a desert and so on.

 

*Land required to feed 1 person for 1 year:

 

Vegan: 1/6th acre

Vegetarian: 3x as much as a vegan

Meat Eater: 18x as much as a vegan

 

 

“Our food our future.” Earthsave.

http://www.earthsave.org/pdf/ofof2006.pdf

 

 

 

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Some stats from http://www.cowspiracy.com/facts/

 

Animal agriculture is responsible for 18 percent of greenhouse gas emissions, more than all transportation combined. 

Fao.org. Spotlight: Livestock impacts on the environment.

http://www.fao.org/ag/magazine/0612sp1.htm

 

 

Transportation is responsible for 13% of all greenhouse gas emissions.

Greenhouse gas emissions from this sector primarily involve fossil fuels burned for road, rail, air, and marine transportation.

Environmental Protection Agency. “Global Emissions.”

http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/ghgemissions/global.html

 

 

Livestock and their byproducts account for at least 32,000 million tons of carbon dioxide (CO2) per year, or 51% of all worldwide greenhouse gas emissions.

Goodland, R Anhang, J. “Livestock and Climate Change: What if the key actors in climate change were pigs, chickens and cows?”

WorldWatch, November/December 2009. Worldwatch Institute, Washington, DC, USA. Pp. 10–19.

http://www.worldwatch.org/node/6294

 

Methane is 25-100 times more destructive than CO2.

“Improved Attribution of Climate Forcing to Emissions.” Science Magazine.

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/326/5953/716.figures-only

 

 

Methane has a global warming power 86 times that of CO2.

NASA. “Methane: Its Role as a Greenhouse Gas.” Jet Propulsion Laboratory.

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/education/pdfs/podest_ghg.pdf

 

Livestock is responsible for 65% of all emissions of nitrous oxide – a greenhouse gas 296x more destructive than carbon dioxide and which stays in the atmosphere for 150 years.

“Livestock’s Long Shadow: Environmental Issues and Options.” Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations. 2006.

http://www.fao.org/docrep/010/a0701e/a0701e00.htm

 

 

Fracking (hydraulic fracturing) water use ranges from 70-140 billion gallons annually.

“Draft Plan to Study the Potential Impacts of Hydraulic Fracturing on Drinking Water Resources.” EPA Office of Research and Development. United States Environmental Protection Agency, 2011.

http://www2.epa.gov/sites/production/files/documents/HFStudyPlanDraft_SAB_020711.pdf

 

 

Animal agriculture use ranges from 34-76 trillion gallons of water annually. [ii]

Pimentel, David, et al. “Water Resources: Agricultural And Environmental Issues.” BioScience 54, no. 10 (2004): 909-18.

http://bioscience.oxfordjournals.org/content/54/10/909.full

Barber, N.L., “Summary of estimated water use in the United States in 2005: U.S. Geological Survey Fact Sheet 2009–3098.”

http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/2009/3098/

 

 

Agriculture is responsible for 80-90% of US water consumption.

“USDA ERS – Irrigation & Water Use.” United States Department of Agriculture Economic Research Service. 2013.

http://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/farm-practices-management/irrigation-water-use/background.aspx

 

 

Growing feed crops for livestock consumes 56% of water in the US.

Jacobson, Michael F. “More and Cleaner Water.” In Six Arguments for a Greener Diet: How a More Plant-based Diet Could save Your Health and the Environment.

Washington, DC: Center for Science in the Public Interest, 2006.

http://www.cspinet.org/EatingGreen/pdf/arguments4.pdf

 

One hamburger requires 660 gallons of water to produce – the equivalent of 2 months’ worth of showers. [iii]

 

Catanese, Christina. “Virtual Water, Real Impacts.” Greenversations: Official Blog of the U.S. EPA. 2012.

http://blog.epa.gov/healthywaters/2012/03/virtual-water-real-impacts-world-water-day-2012/

“50 Ways to Save Your River.” Friends of the River.

http://www.friendsoftheriver.org/site/PageServer?pagename=50ways

 

 

2,500 gallons of water are needed to produce 1 pound of beef.

Robbins, John. “2,500 Gallons, All Wet?” EarthSave

http://www.earthsave.org/environment/water.htm

Meateater’s Guide to Climate Change & Health.” Environmental Working Group.

http://www.ewg.org/meateatersguide/interactive-graphic/water/

“Water Footprint Assessment.” University of Twente, the Netherlands.

http://www.waterfootprint.org

Oppenlander, Richard A. Food Choice and Sustainability: Why Buying Local, Eating Less Meat, and Taking Baby Steps Won’t Work. Minneapolis, MN: Langdon Street, 2013. Print

 

477 gallons of water are required to produce 1 pound of eggs; 900 gallons of water are needed for cheese.

“Meateater’s Guide to Climate Change & Health.” Environmental Working Group.

http://www.ewg.org/meateatersguide/interactive-graphic/water/

 

1,000 gallons of water are required to produce 1 gallon of milk.

“Water trivia facts.” United States Environmental Protection Agency.

http://water.epa.gov/learn/kids/drinkingwater/water_trivia_facts.cfm#_edn11

 

 

5% of water consumed in the US is by private homes.

55% of water consumed in the US is for animal agriculture.

Jacobson, Michael F. “More and Cleaner Water.” In Six Arguments for a Greener Diet: How a More Plant-based Diet Could save Your Health and the Environment. Washington, DC: Center for Science in the Public Interest, 2006. http://www.cspinet.org/EatingGreen/pdf/arguments4.pdf

Oppenlander, Richard A. Food Choice and Sustainability: Why Buying Local, Eating Less Meat, and Taking Baby Steps Won’t Work. Minneapolis, MN: Langdon Street, 2013. Print.

 

The meat and dairy industries combined use nearly 1/3 (29%) of all the fresh water in the world today. “Freshwater Abuse and Loss: Where Is It All Going?” Forks Over Knives.

http://www.forksoverknives.com/freshwater-abuse-and-loss-where-is-it-all-go

 

 

Livestock covers 45% of the earth’s total land.

Thornton, Phillip, Mario Herrero, and Polly Ericksen. “Livestock and Climate Change.” Livestock Exchange, no. 3 (2011).https://cgspace.cgiar.org/bitstream/handle/10568/10601/IssueBrief3.pdf

 

Animal agriculture is the leading cause of species extinction, ocean dead zones, water pollution [iv], and habitat destruction.

Oppenlander, Richard A. Food Choice and Sustainability: Why Buying Local, Eating Less Meat, and Taking Baby Steps Won’t Work. . Minneapolis, MN : Langdon Street, 2013. Print.

“What’s the Problem?” United States Environmental Protection Agency.

http://www.epa.gov/region9/animalwaste/problem.html “Livestock’s Long Shadow: Environmental Issues and Options.” Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations. 2006. http://www.fao.org/docrep/010/a0701e/a0701e00.htm

“Fire Up the Grill for a Mouthwatering Red, White, and Green July 4th.” Worldwatch Institute.

http://www.worldwatch.org/fire-grill-mouthwatering-red-white-and-green-july-4th

Oppenlander, Richard A. “Biodiversity and Food Choice: A Clarification.” Comfortably Unaware. 2012

http://comfortablyunaware.com/blog/biodiversity-and-food-choice-a-clarification/

“Risk Assessment Evaluation for Concentrated Animal Feeding Operations.” U.S. Environmental Protection Agency – Office of Research and Development. 2004.

http://nepis.epa.gov/Exe/ZyPURL.cgi?Dockey=901V0100.txt

 

 

Every minute, 7 million pounds of excrement are produced by animals raised for food in the US. This doesn’t include the animals raised outside of USDA jurisdiction or in backyards, or the billions of fish raised in aquaculture settings in the US. [v]

“What’s the Problem?” United States Environmental Protection Agency.

http://www.epa.gov/region9/animalwaste/problem.html

“How To Manage Manure.” Healthy Landscapes.

http://www.uri.edu/ce/healthylandscapes/livestock/how_manure_overall.htm

 

 

335 million tons of “dry matter” is produced annually by livestock in the US.

“FY-2005 Annual Report Manure and Byproduct Utilization National Program 206.”

USDA Agricultural Research Service. 2008.

http://www.ars.usda.gov/research/programs/programs.htm?np_code=206&docid=13337

 

 

A farm with 2,500 dairy cows produces the same amount of waste as a city of 411,000 people. [vi] “Risk Assessment Evaluation for Concentrated Animal Feeding Operations.” U.S. Environmental Protection Agency – Office of Research and Development. 2004.

http://nepis.epa.gov/Exe/ZyPURL.cgi?Dockey=901V0100.txt

 

 

3/4 of the world’s fisheries are exploited.

“Overfishing: A Threat to Marine Biodiversity.” UN News Center.

http://www.un.org/events/tenstories/06/story.asp?storyid=800

“General Situation of World Fish Stocks.” United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO).

http://www.fao.org/newsroom/common/ecg/1000505/en/stocks.pdf

 

 

90 million tons of fish are pulled from our oceans each year. [vii]

“World Review of Fisheries and Aquaculture.” UNITED NATIONS FOOD AND AGRICULTURE ORGANIZATION (FAO). 2012.

http://www.fao.org/docrep/016/i2727e/i2727e01.pdf

 

 

For every 1 pound of fish caught, an average of 5 pounds of unintended marine species are caught and discarded as by-kill. [viii]

“Discards and Bycatch in Shrimp Trawl Fisheries.”

UNITED NATIONS FOOD AND AGRICULTURE ORGANIZATION (FAO).

http://www.fao.org/docrep/W6602E/w6602E09.htm

 

 

As many as 40% (63 billion pounds) of fish caught globally every year are discarded.

Goldenberg, Suzanne. “America’s Nine Most Wasteful Fisheries Named.” The Guardian.

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/mar/20/americas-nine-most-wasteful-fisheries-named

 

 

Scientists estimate as many as 650,000 whales, dolphins and seals are killed every year by fishing vessels.Goldenberg, Suzanne. “America’s Nine Most Wasteful Fisheries Named.” The Guardian. http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/mar/20/americas-nine-most-wasteful-fisheries-named

 

100 million tons of fish are caught annually.

Montaigne, fen. “Still waters: The global fish crisis.” National Geographic.

http://ocean.nationalgeographic.com/ocean/global-fish-crisis-article/

Fish catch peaks at 85 million tons.

“World Review of Fisheries and Aquaculture.” UNITED NATIONS FOOD AND AGRICULTURE ORGANIZATION (FAO). 2012.

http://www.fao.org/docrep/016/i2727e/i2727e01.pdf

 

 

Animal agriculture is responsible for 91% of Amazon destruction.

Oppenlander, Richard A. Food Choice and Sustainability: Why Buying Local, Eating Less Meat, and Taking Baby Steps Won’t Work. . Minneapolis, MN : Langdon Street, 2013. Print.

Margulis, Sergio. Causes of Deforestation of the Brazilian Rainforest. Washington: World Bank Publications, 2003.

https://openknowledge.worldbank.org/handle/10986/15060

 

 

The leading causes of rainforest destruction are livestock and feedcrops.

“Livestock impacts on the environment.” Food and agriculture organization of the United Nations (fao). 2006.http://www.fao.org/ag/magazine/0612sp1.htm

 

110 plant, animal and insect species are lost every day due to rainforest destruction.

“Rainforest statistics and facts.” Save the amazon.

http://www.savetheamazon.org/rainforeststats.htm

Oppenlander, Richard A. Food Choice and Sustainability: Why Buying Local, Eating Less Meat, and Taking Baby Steps Won’t Work. Minneapolis, MN: Langdon Street, 2013. Print.

 

26 million rainforest acres have been cleared for palm oil production. [ix]

“Indonesia: palm oil expansion unaffected by forest moratorium.” USDA Foreign Agricultural Service. 2013.http://www.pecad.fas.usda.gov/highlights/2013/06/indonesia/

 

136 million rainforest acres cleared for animal agriculture.

“AMAZON DESTRUCTION.” MONGA BAY.

http://rainforests.mongabay.com/amazon/amazon_destruction.html

 

Cows produce 150 billion gallons of methane per day. [xi]

Ross, Philip. “Cow farts have ‘larger greenhouse gas impact’ than previously thought; methane pushes climate change.” International Business Times. 2013.

http://www.ibtimes.com/cow-farts-have-larger-greenhouse-gas-impact-previously-thought-methane-pushes-climate-change-1487502

 

 

130 times more animal waste than human waste is produced in the US – 1.4 billion tons from the meat industry annually. 5 tons of animal waste is produced for every person. [xii]

Animal agriculture: waste management practices. United States General Accounting Office.

http://www.gao.gov/archive/1999/rc99205.pdf

 

 

2-5 acres of land are used per cow.

Oppenlander, Richard A. Food Choice and Sustainability: Why Buying Local, Eating Less Meat, and Taking Baby Steps Won’t Work. 

Minneapolis, MN: Langdon Street, 2013. Print.

 

The average American consumes 209 pounds of meat per year.

Haney, Shaun. “How much do we eat?” Real agriculture. 2012. (276 lbs)

http://www.realagriculture.com/2012/05/how-much-meat-do-we-eat/

“US meat, poultry production & consumption” American Meat Institute. 2009. (233.9 lbs)

http://www.meatami.com/ht/a/GetDocumentAction/i/48781

Bernard, Neal. “Do we eat too much?” Huffington Post. (200 lbs)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/neal-barnard-md/american-diet-do-we-eat-too-much_b_805980.html

 

 

Nearly half of the contiguous US is devoted to animal agriculture. [xiii]

30% of the Earth’s entire land surface is used by the livestock sector.

Versterby, Marlow; Krupa, Kenneth. “Major uses of land in the United States.” Updated 2012. USDA Economic Research Service.http://www.ers.usda.gov/publications/sb-statistical-bulletin/sb-973.aspx#.VAoXcl7E8dt

 

“Rearing cattle produces more greenhouse gases than driving cars, UN report warns.”

UN News Centre, 2006.http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?newsID=20772

 

1/3 of the planet is desertified, with livestock as the leading driver.

“UN launches international year of deserts and desertification.”

UN news centre, 2006.http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=17076#.VAodM17E8ds

Oppenlander, Richard A. Less Meat, and Taking Baby Steps Won’t Work. Minneapolis, MN : Langdon Street, 2013. Print.

 

70 billion farmed animals are reared annually worldwide. More than 6 million animals are killed for food every hour. A well-fed world. factory farms.http://www.awfw.org/factory-farms/

Oppenlander, Richard A. Less Meat, and Taking Baby Steps Won’t Work. Minneapolis, MN : Langdon Street, 2013. Print.

 

Throughout the world, humans drink 5.2 billion gallons of water and eat 21 billion pounds of food each day. Based on rough averages of 0.75 gallons of water and 3 lbs of food per day.

 

Worldwide, cows drink 45 billion gallons of water and eat 135 billion pounds of food each day.

Based on rough average of 30 gallons of water and 90 lbs of feed per day.

 

Land required to feed 1 person for 1 year:

 

Vegan: 1/6th acre

Vegetarian: 3x as much as a vegan

Meat Eater: 18x as much as a vegan

 

“Our food our future.” Earthsave.

http://www.earthsave.org/pdf/ofof2006.pdf

 

 

1.5 acres can produce 37,000 pounds of plant-based food.

1.5 acres can produce 375 pounds of meat.

 

Oppenlander, Richard A. Less Meat, and Taking Baby Steps Won’t Work. Minneapolis, MN : Langdon Street, 2013. Print.

 

A person who follows a vegan diet PRODUCES 50% less carbon dioxide, 1/11th oil, 1/13th water, and 1/18th land compared to a meat-eater for their food.

 

CO2: “Dietary greenhouse gas emissions of meat-eaters, fish-eaters, vegetarians and vegans in the UK.” Climactic change, 2014.

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10584-014-1169-1/fulltext.html

Oil, water: “Sustainability of meat-based and plant-based diets and the environment.”

The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, 2003.

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/660S.full

Land: “Our food our future.” Earthsave.

http://www.earthsave.org/pdf/ofof2006.pdf

 

 

Each day, a person who eats a vegan diet saves 1,100 gallons of water, 45 pounds of grain, 30 sq ft of forested land, 20 lbs CO2 equivalent, and one animal’s life. [xiv]

“Water Footprint Assessment.” University of Twente, the Netherlands.

 

 

 

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[Taomeow]

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[eye_of_the_storm]

Found these stats we can work with:

 

Total land area of North America (including Central America and the Caribbean): 24,486,305 km² (6,050,697,738 acres)Total population of North America: 514,144,046

 

Average population density of North America: 21.0 persons per square kilometer (11.77 acres per person)

 

Total land area of Earth: 148,939,100 km² (36,803,653,121 acres)

Total population of Earth: 6,553,289,000

 

Average population density of Earth: 44.0 persons per square kilometer (5.62 acres per person)

 

Source:

 

North America at http://en.wikipedia..../North_Ameri...

Earth at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth

Population Clock at http://www.census.go...ww/popclock....

 

6,050,697,738 / 514,144,046 = 11.7684 acres per person.

 

Land required to feed 1 person for 1 year:

Vegan: 1/6th acre

Vegetarian: 3x as much as a vegan

Meat Eater: 18x as much as a vegan

 

“Our food our future.” Earthsave.

 

http://www.earthsave...df/ofof2006.pdf

 

Nearly half of the contiguous US is devoted to animal agriculture. [xiii]

30% of the Earth’s entire land surface is used by the livestock sector.

 

Versterby, Marlow; Krupa, Kenneth. “Major uses of land in the United States.” Updated 2012. USDA Economic Research Service.http://www.ers.usda....px#.VAoXcl7E8dt

 

1.5 acres can produce 37,000 pounds of plant-based food.1.5 acres can produce 375 pounds of meat.

 

Oppenlander, Richard A. Less Meat, and Taking Baby Steps Won’t Work. Minneapolis, MN : Langdon Street, 2013. Print.

 

A person who follows a vegan diet PRODUCES 50% less carbon dioxide, 1/11th oil, 1/13th water, and 1/18th land compared to a meat-eater for their food.

 

CO2: “Dietary greenhouse gas emissions of meat-eaters, fish-eaters, vegetarians and vegans in the UK.” Climactic change, 2014.http://link.springer...1/fulltext.html

 

Oil, water: “Sustainability of meat-based and plant-based diets and the environment.”

The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, 2003.http://ajcn.nutritio.../78/3/660S.full

 

Land: “Our food our future.” Earthsave.http://www.earthsave...df/ofof2006.pdf

 

Each day, a person who eats a vegan diet saves 1,100 gallons of water, 45 pounds of grain, 30 sq ft of forested land, 20 lbs CO2 equivalent, and one animal’s life. [xiv]

 

“Water Footprint Assessment.” University of Twente, the Netherlands.

[eye_of_the_storm]

type into google images vaccine reactions... that image ralis posted looks similar.

Within my extended family 3 people work at hospitals... last winter all three got influenza vaccines... all three had influenza after the injection

I went to visit them, greeted them all and hugged them goodbye... I insisted to prove the health of my immune system ... eating a vegan diet (high fruit and vegetables) ... never got anything.

The vaccines are causing disease.  http://nsnbc.me/2013/05/08/bill-gates-polio-vaccine-program-caused-47500-cases-of-paralysis-death/
 

 

“In 1976, Dr. Jonas Salk, creator of the killed-virus vaccine used in the 1950s, testified that the live-virus vaccine (used almost exclusively in the U.S. from the early 1960s to 2000) was the ‘principal if not sole cause’ of all reported polio cases in the U.S. since 1961 [44]. (The virus remains in the throat for one to two weeks and in the feces for up to two months. Thus, vaccine recipients are at risk, and can potentially spread the disease, as long as fecal excretion of the virus continues [45].) In 1992, the Federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) published an admission that the live-virus vaccine had become the dominant cause of polio in the United States [36]. In fact, according to CDC figures, every case of polio in the U.S. since 1979 was caused by the oral polio vaccine [36]. Authorities claim the vaccine was responsible for about eight cases of polio every year [46]. However, an independent study that analyzed the government’s own vaccine database during a recent period of less than five years uncovered 13,641 reports of adverse events following use of the oral polio vaccine. These reports included 6,364 emergency room visits and 540 deaths (Figure 3) [47,48]. Public outrage at these tragedies became the impetus for removing the oral polio vaccine from immunization schedules [36:568;37;38].”

 

Good nutrition and a clean environment = excellent health

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[idquest]

From history classes in school I remember that Spartans, Ancient Greek people, would drop their sick/deformed children from a cliff to death. Spartans were very healthy people and their genetic pool was good and clean.

 

We should remember that any medical intervention will eventually result in deterioration of genetic pool.

 

So what to do? Drop sicks from a cliff or intervene? People live longer but they are not necessarily healthier. Is ti good or bad?

 

These are not easy questions, and I don't know answers myself.

[Taomeow]

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[Taomeow]

Most definitely not dishonest -- just on the run, in response to a picture of someone afflicted with smallpox posted as an argument.  The more thorough approach, to avoid pages of reaction to the indirect rather than direct link between the two (and the indirect link is undeniable, but takes work to sort out, which by your own admission you don't have the incentives to invest -- lucky you, I wouldn't have if I didn't have to as well) -- I agree, a picture of reactions to vaccines would have been a better picture in response to that ill-conceived manipulative appeal to human irrational horror posted by ralis (what does a picture of what smallpox looks like have to do with the discussion as to whether vaccines helped conquer it or it conquered itself, temporarily, appearing and disappearing as it did many hundreds of times throughout history -- and vaccines jumped on the bandwagon of its declining slope?)  But you're right, my expectations of a more extended investigation of the link were way too optimistic, if you don't have your back against the wall (as I did when I had to start investigating), you won't bother.  So it would have been wiser for me to have posted pictures of reactions to vaccines instead.  Don't appreciate or deserve the "dishonest" assessment, but let me correct "on the run and too optimistic":

  

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