Let's rename the Like button the Noteworthy button

[cheya]

Re multiple buttons: a wrinkle. (For me.)

With 17 buttons, (possibly anything more than one), the name of the liker is not displayed, just the tally of clicks for each icon. Button clicker names may be available as notification to the poster, I don't know, but I really do like seeing on each post who has commented, and the button tally thing alone is too cold, too much like voting.

 

And yes, of course 17 buttons is extreme.

 

I most like Thank You! as a button, because that better conveys the feeling I'm usually having when I click "like".

And sometimes I do wish I could multiple-like posts, so Outstanding! could be a pretty good second.

 

Having an approval button of some kind seems to me a tool that knits us together. I'd be looking at any "improvement" for the sense that it could knit us together more.

[Taomeow]

I agree, the whole idea of using any markers of acknowledgment at all is to facilitate the atmosphere of friendship.  My friends say "thank you" to me and I to them in person, or we "like" things about each other -- why not do this online?   And I do want to know who my friends are even if they don't feel like commenting extensively.  Why post anything at all somewhere where the answer to "who my friends are" is "nobody?" 

 

An aside regarding the "judgmental" objections.  I don't view "non-judgmental" stances installed into the collective consciousness by MK-ultra shills that ask people to lose their ability to know what they really feel as a spiritual attainment.  I like what I like when I like it.  I hate what I hate when I hate it.  Peg me as antimatter on this matter.

[blue eyed snake]

An aside regarding the "judgmental" objections.  I don't view "non-judgmental" stances installed into the collective consciousness by MK-ultra shills that ask people to lose their ability to know what they really feel as a spiritual attainment.  I like what I like when I like it.  I hate what I hate when I hate it.  Peg me as antimatter on this matter.

 

to go into that would be going far beyond the OP. Your general idea is clear to me  , but could you enlighten this native dutch-speaker what you mean with : MK-ultra shills ?

 

thank you 

[Daeluin]

I gather an MK-ultra shill is one who advocates for the benefits of mind control and brainwashing. In this context perhaps the use of non-judgmentalism as a means for population pacification.

 

I would simply say that spirit likes stillness. If we are to promote our population's increasing connection to spirit, and therefore truth, then they must be able to develop an ability to cultivate inner peace: to prevent the noise, stress, fighting, and over-thinking that leave no home for the spirit to return to.

 

So when I emphasize a button that makes a connection to the heart and doesn't require thinking, judging, it is to help allow the spirit to return.

 

Otherwise I am perfectly content with flowing with our emotions and their expression as we feel them. I believe it should be encouraged: they are our guides. And I feel it is when we attach to them that they develop into patterns of loving and hating. I feel that love should be unbiased, unconditional, and that what could come to develop into hate is merely a signal warning us from feeding it with our energy - this is why we close up, not to fight, but to learn to go another way, to where we may be open. If we feed it, even in opposition, we help to maintain it. Easier to dissolve it from the inside out in a non-oppositional way that removes its power. Oddly enough this follows the principles of weiqi.

Edited April 21, 2015 by Daeluin

[Nikolai1]

I would like three buttons:

 

Dislike

Thank you

Outstanding

[Spotless]

Yay for Noteworthy!

[Taomeow]

to go into that would be going far beyond the OP. Your general idea is clear to me  , but could you enlighten this native dutch-speaker what you mean with : MK-ultra shills ?

 

thank you 

This is something very controversial -- for a separate thread maybe, someday.  Briefly -- it is the assertion of those who researched the origins of "new age religions" that they were (and are) part of various  mind-control programs launched by the government over the years.  In particular, MK-ultra, a series of mind-control experiments which evolved from the CIA project "Monarch" which evolved from "Operation Paperclip" which utilized nazi scientists for purposes of advancing assorted proprietary agendas (of which only the benign ones became known to the public, like Wernher Von Braun's work for NASA, but not the less publicized ones involving a lot shadier specialists and tasks), branched out into well over a hundred sub-projects, of which creating a "happy happy joy joy make love not war non-judgmental positive-thinking forgiveness embrace-whatever-happens" and so on mentality (reinforced with drugs and trauma and training the subjects -- the general public -- to react to trauma, to what is really happening, in this manner) was one.  Examples of who did what toward this mentality spreading on a wide scale are too shocking to give, off the bat, to people who may have learned what they believe from one or more of those seemingly unlikely sources, and this thread is not meant to be "controversial" so I will omit them for now. 

 

Oh, and a "shill" is a hired, paid, or mind-controlled agent of influence pretending (or actually believing, due to mind programming) to be a private citizen and supporting or promoting (or defaming and striking down, depending on the task) a particular product or agenda as though it's a personal choice to do so.  One of the oldest professions, which however never flourished to the extent it does today.             

Edited April 21, 2015 by Taomeow

[liminal_luke]

The like button makes me very aware, as a poster, of how much I like to be liked.  Probably everybody does, I guess,  but one of my personal goals is to be more self-contained.  To get to a place where being liked feels less flattering, and disliked less onerous. Where I´m simply me and content with myself.  Checking whether or not I´m liked can move me in the opposite direction.  

 

Then again, that´s life.  People like some things and don´t like others, and part of being social beings is letting each other know what´s what.   

Edited April 21, 2015 by liminal_luke

[Songtsan]

Perhaps we should have more than two options (like or 'lack of liking'...maybe a scale system, or a bunch of different buttons which accurately sum up our reaction or resonance with the post...

 

there could be a rating 0-10 scale for the whole post, or maybe instead of a linear rating system, something circular?

 

Great thread Taomeow! Guten idea yah!

[Taomeow]

Thank you.  Glad you like it.

[dawei]

Perhaps we should have more than two options (like or 'lack of liking'...maybe a scale system, or a bunch of different buttons which accurately sum up our reaction or resonance with the post...

 

there could be a rating 0-10 scale for the whole post, or maybe instead of a linear rating system, something circular?

 

Great thread Taomeow! Guten idea yah!

 

There is something to be said for a spectrum scale... and to have a like without a dislike... seems to elicit a 'dislike'

 

But ultimately, what does a group have as a goal?

 

I think we can accept dislikes in posting and accept an additional like in buttons.  The latter allows you to smile and just click a button without posting.  It is a kind of posting, if you will.

 

If your disagreeing is strong enough, then post your position.  Maybe it is not completely fair but where is fair written in the heavens?

 

Let's not worry so much about a rating scale... let's go more with the flow of what is there...

[Stosh]

Well if there Is a 'dislike' button,  I want to know the names of them that chose to click it, so I can post back.

[Songtsan]

Where did this whole 'like' meme originate anyways? Facebook?

[dawei]

Where did this whole 'like' meme originate anyways? Facebook?

 

Adam took his first glance at Eve... 

[Songtsan]

what about 'like' and 'love' because sometimes I like something, and then sometimes I really, really like something, and then sometimes I am so floored in devotional ecstasy towards something, that I would give it like, 3x likes!!

[dust]

An odd and probably very silly idea, but what about a small selection of (relatively abstract) symbols? e.g.

 

 

✪        ★        ☑        ☯        ✿        ♞        ☀        ☂        ♫

 

 

For some of which, meaning would be straightforward (e.g. ☑ to show acknowledgement)

but for others, meaning might be interpretable depending on the content of each post..

Nobody need get their feelings hurt, but different types of appreciation/acknowledgement could be implied

 

 

 

edit:

for example, in this case I would give myself a nice flower for a flowery (but useless) idea...

Edited April 21, 2015 by dustybeijing

[Stosh]

Whats the point of ambiguous comment? Why did I get a musical note? Is that sarcasm?

The star however I like.,or a question mark. Or an eye meaning the person read it, so long as it has the names.

[dust]

Because of the reason Taomeow started the topic in the first place...

 

 

I occasionally (often) use it simply to mean "I've read what you wrote -- acknowledged," and then other times to mean "I like what you wrote," and then, "I don't like what you wrote but I like the idea of discussing what you brought up," and so on.  It is my impression that some folks use it like that too, but most just wait for something to "like" or not.  I feel this button sort of flattens the range of our emotional and mental responses.  I don't react with a black-and-white like/no like to "everything" in real life -- why should I be robotized and simplified like that in my spontaneous online reactions?  Or you in yours?..

 

So, let's use it as the "Noteworthy" button, or even "My awareness visited this place" button.   And if the post was read but awareness said "shouldn't have bothered with this one," then don't use it.  No one will be upset over this non-use though because this kind of non-use will be indistinguishable from "I haven't read this one, can't read them all, who can? -- but we'll meet again elsewhere perhaps and then I'll "Noteworthy" something you wrote?"   How's that -- like/no like?

 

 

 

... to make things a little less black and white

 

I wasn't suggesting that those symbols should be the ones..they were just a few I found and thought fun. The eye idea is cool.

[Stosh]

Fair response, you are working with the idea, to be less one dimensional, but is anonymously and ambiguously confusing an improvement on the like button? Dunno, it would be fun just to click on confusing symbols and leave the poster guessing tho. What about numbers ? One could submit a grade ,one to ten ,then the grades get averaged, at half value for women , .... just kidding ... if its so important to be nuanced about your appreciation , isnt the only fair way is to respond with a post or email?

[blue eyed snake]

This is something very controversial -- for a separate thread maybe, someday.  Briefly -- it is the assertion of those who researched the origins of "new age religions" that they were (and are) part of various  mind-control programs launched by the government over the years.  In particular, MK-ultra, a series of mind-control experiments which evolved from the CIA project "Monarch" which evolved from "Operation Paperclip" which utilized nazi scientists for purposes of advancing assorted proprietary agendas (of which only the benign ones became known to the public, like Wernher Von Braun's work for NASA, but not the less publicized ones involving a lot shadier specialists and tasks), branched out into well over a hundred sub-projects, of which creating a "happy happy joy joy make love not war non-judgmental positive-thinking forgiveness embrace-whatever-happens" and so on mentality (reinforced with drugs and trauma and training the subjects -- the general public -- to react to trauma, to what is really happening, in this manner) was one.  Examples of who did what toward this mentality spreading on a wide scale are too shocking to give, off the bat, to people who may have learned what they believe from one or more of those seemingly unlikely sources, and this thread is not meant to be "controversial" so I will omit them for now. 

 

Oh, and a "shill" is a hired, paid, or mind-controlled agent of influence pretending (or actually believing, due to mind programming) to be a private citizen and supporting or promoting (or defaming and striking down, depending on the task) a particular product or agenda as though it's a personal choice to do so.  One of the oldest professions, which however never flourished to the extent it does today.             

 

thanks for explaining, everyday i learn something new 

[sean]

I renamed it to "Thank you". I hope everyone likes! 

 

Sean

[Zhongyongdaoist]

I just noticed this. Seems like a good way to "reframe" the "like" button. Thank you.

[Songtsan]

I think a selection of buttons would be neat, some possibilities:

 

'Cool'

'Agreed'

'Nope'

'Hell yeah'

'Forget about it' (see movie 'Donnie Brasco')

'For realsies'

'So-so'

...

 

know wadda mean?

'

[Marblehead]

Well, the name has changed.  I like it.

 

But now I can't bitch about not having a "Don't Like" button.

 

How about a "You should have kept that to yourself" button.

[Marblehead]

Deus in machina has spoken. The button is pretty much useless unless I ignore what it says. Im not in debt for everything everyone else says.

Oh!, go on.  Tell people you are indebted to them.  It would make them feel good and it surely would boost their ego.  All good stuff!