How we have all been forced into sexual slavery

[liminal_luke]

 

 

And currently I don't have the option of sex. Because I am not in a relationship. 

 

Most of my friends complain about precisely the opposite situation: that they don´t have the option of sex because they´re in a relationship.  

Edited April 28, 2016 by liminal_luke

[Taoway]

Most of my friends complain about precisely the opposite situation: that they don´t have the option of sex because they´re in a relationship.

I don't follow you. They would be having sex in their relationship in most cases...? In my case I am not with a girl so I don't have the readily option for sex.

[liminal_luke]

I don't follow you. They would be having sex in their relationship in most cases...? In my case I am not with a girl so I don't have the readily option for sex.

 

 

I get what you´re saying Bodhidharma, and respect your values around not having sex outside of a committed relationship.  Many of my friends are in long-term relationships and are either not having sex at all, or not having sex as much as they´d like.  Often not as much as they used to have back when they were free-wheeling singles hooking up with handsome strangers on the disco floor.

[thelerner]

So his view is important because not everyone has a healthy sexual view. I'm young but I do feel conditioned by this sort of thing. I do feel a pressure to have sex often and if I don't I'm not healthy or a "strong man" where does this mindset come from?

 

And currently I don't have the option of sex. Because I am not in a relationship. So what then?

No answer, but I think it was ever thus.  Guys, particularly in there teens and 20's (& its no picnic later) have always felt deprived of sex.  As well as the the thought everyone one is doing it. 

[Taoway]

No answer, but I think it was ever thus. Guys, particularly in there teens and 20's (& its no picnic later) have always felt deprived of sex. As well as the the thought everyone one is doing it.

It's odd because my frustration regarding getting sex is really only because everyone else is getting it.

 

Otherwise I'm able to live my life and not really crave sex.

 

The more insecure one may be the more they crave lust out of an attempt to feel happy about them selves.

 

So as much as some say Sex is 100% human nature and healthy.. I still think there is a lot of confusion in people's hearts with their sexual selves. I live in a society where its all about competition for your own personal ego. And about getting the best of the best.

 

In reality none of that matters. It is very clear though that Sex sells in society so they exploit it beyond belief and that OBVIOUSLY affects people. Some more then others.

[Nungali]

I get what you´re saying Bodhidharma, and respect your values around not having sex outside of a committed relationship.  Many of my friends are in long-term relationships and are either not having sex at all, or not having sex as much as they´d like.  Often not as much as they used to have back when they were free-wheeling singles hooking up with handsome strangers on the disco floor.

 

How can I resist ? 

 

[Marblehead]

It's odd because my frustration regarding getting sex is really only because everyone else is getting it.

 

Get as old as I am and you won't even care about it any more.

[Taoway]

Get as old as I am and you won't even care about it any more.

That must be why I look forward to aging

[Old River]

After all the hoopla, I find sex itself to be a tad overrated and not worth the effort. Maybe that's why so much hoopla surrounds it....

[Taoway]

After all the hoopla, I find sex itself to be a tad overrated and not worth the effort. Maybe that's why so much hoopla surrounds it....

Yes I feel the same. I see directly that what ever interest my mind has in sexual things .. it's out of mere impulse. If it were with someone close that would be a little different but even so I'm much more interested in what I can experience with someone beyond the bedroom.

[liminal_luke]

 I still think there is a lot of confusion in people's hearts with their sexual selves.

 

That´s for sure.  Plenty of sexual confusion all round.  Among the young and the old, the married and the single, the straight and the gay and the somewhere in-between.  Anybody who is sexually confused can consider themselves in very good company.

[Taoway]

That´s for sure. Plenty of sexual confusion all round. Among the young and the old, the married and the single, the straight and the gay and the somewhere in-between. Anybody who is sexually confused can consider themselves in very good company.

Yes and hyperssxualization of culture isn't offering any help. The young and old are taught to just fuel every sexual fantasy and desire they have. Sexual desire becomes stronger then a monster

[Songtsan]

If I was intending to have kids, I would praise it more. Dont get me wrong, I like sex, but it can cloud so many issues. In any event, I dont feel like I did when I wrote the OP...I was 'in a mood.'

[Taoway]

If I was intending to have kids, I would praise it more. Dont get me wrong, I like sex, but it can cloud so many issues. In any event, I dont feel like I did when I wrote the OP...I was 'in a mood.'

Praise sex more? 

Definitely no problem with the art of sexual connection. But it is a bit sickening how in the west at least how sex became something so surface and superficial . 

Porn has had to have a big impact on that for the young generation i am apart of. 

[vonkrankenhaus]

It is obvious that sex is promoted in a certain way, while the family has been un-promoted.

 

Isn't that strange?

 

This means building lots and lots of people.

 

But very few actual families.

 

More like collections of individuals.

 

Who could benefit from such an unnatural circumstance?

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

[liminal_luke]

It is obvious that sex is promoted in a certain way, while the family has been un-promoted.

 

Isn't that strange?

 

This means building lots and lots of people.

 

You´ve got a point, but only if you consider sex to be unprotected heterosexual intercourse.  Bill Clinton´s opinions notwithstanding, that´s hardly the only way to do it.

[Marblehead]

Well, if one associates sex with money:  who doesn't want more money?

[vonkrankenhaus]

Re:

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"You´ve got a point, but only if you consider sex to be unprotected heterosexual intercourse.  Bill Clinton´s opinions notwithstanding, that´s hardly the only way to do it."

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We are done with the population uptick at present.

 

The issue was disconnecting the postwar population boom from their offspring.

 

Again, to stunt families, primal ownerships, and inheritances.

 

So they started casting hunky male characters with homosexuals - Rock Hudson, Montgomery Clift, etc, etc..

 

Then developing fully homosexual characters.

 

And then fully homosexual celebrities.

 

This took 50 years to accomplish.

 

But people certainly took it up.

 

The point is, ALL of this is just population management and exploitation.

 

NONE of it are "naturally occuring events".

 

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

[liminal_luke]

I don´t understand any of that VonKrankenhaus.  My only point was that there are a lot of ways people have sex that don´t result in babies.

[Songtsan]

Breaking apart tribal societies, where large groups of related individuals took care of their own, spreading them out and making them dependent on the system, is one goal. But I also think that instigating oversexed individuals makes them weaker and less focused on other things, especially regime change...

[Taoway]

The promiscuous lifestyle is somewhat promoted in western society. Which doesn't help the strength of the family unity.

 

Humans aren't meant to have a culture of having many mates. We aren't fish or rabbits. We have to raise our young for a long time so strong families are important.

 

The only exception for promiscuity would be in a tribal or island culture where people all share eachother. In that way the children are still raised with support.

 

 

What we have today is a rise in many people wanting to be individuals instead of being apart of a community. It's proven we live longer when we live together with people.

 

And the way we are made to fight against each other male and female young and old black and white. Doesn't help the younger generations grow.

 

(They do cause fights..I saw a time magazine that said young vs old.. showing war between old people and young people.. what kind of bulls hit is that? In any wise indegenious culture they value the elders and value the children.)

 

Western world has some things to work on

[HoldorFold]

[To the masses, nonexistent]

 

 

 

 

 

You, men and women and anything in between, have been brain washed into thinking that people in relationships are meant to have sex frequently and often to orgasmic culmination for the purposes of creating a weak willed and easily controlled population.

 

The reason that this method is so successful is that when people constantly and consistently spend their jing, they lose their potency and become easily manipulated, because the science behind it is thus:

 

Upon orgasming, the testosterone receptors in the brain are downregulated, causing a reduction in Eros, confidence, creativity, sensuality and basically willpower.

 

Weak willed people become Sheeple.

 

Encouraged to engage in sex from a young age, through memes generated from a hateful few individuals who wish to create a herd mentality, most of the world's peoples are brainwashed to become sexual hedonists from a young age. Most Disney movies have hidden sexual content in them. Go google it and see.

 

By encouraging a culture of sex, everyone becomes mindless drones.

 

Anyone who has 'sexually fasted' for more than two weeks knows the benefits, regardless of whether you are male or female. You feel more energized, ready to go out and get shit done.

 

Nature doesn't encourage frivolous use of sexual energies....cultural memes and scripts have been created by hidden few that say it is manly to have sex often....

 

If you know how to have non-orgasmic, non-ejaculatory sex, good for you. Most people do not have the skill/control/discipline to withhold. They haven't built the habit energy.

 

there is more coming, but I am being interfered with unfortanately

 

There is a 'conspiracy' going on around sex, but it's not really related to the frequency of between couples. That really has just been going on since forever. Think of how much sex Ghenkis Khan had for instance.

 

Some women will want to satisfy their man so he's not going around being a Ghenkis Khan in the world though, for instance i have a friend who's girlfriend is insulted if she cannot give him oral sex first thing every morning. She divulged she does this so he's not looking at other women when he goes off to work. This is not related to government or conspiracy though. 

 

What's actually going which is more in line with a conspiracy is in the realm of pornography. The amount of people, especially young boys, addicted to pornography is outrageous. Many have developed warped tastes as a result of escalating their ongoing need for stimulation. They get bored with one thing and then can immediately find something else more 'interesting' around the corner on the internet. I practice retention for months sometimes, so I've also visited non-Taoist places where people practice this, and there seems to be a lot of boys in their teens / early twenties who have grown up with high speed internet who have become addicted to certain bizarre niches of porn, particularly transsexual porn believe it or not, that seemed to be a common one that kept popping up. These poor guys become extremely confused as a result, often suicidal even.

 

There's also other dark things involving the media, fear and shame going on, but it's probably outside the scope of this thread.

 

 

[Taoway]

There is a 'conspiracy' going on around sex, but it's not really related to the frequency of between couples. That really has just been going on since forever. Think of how much sex Ghenkis Khan had for instance.

 

Some women will want to satisfy their man so he's not going around being a Ghenkis Khan in the world though, for instance i have a friend who's girlfriend is insulted if she cannot give him oral sex first thing every morning. She divulged she does this so he's not looking at other women when he goes off to work. This is not related to government or conspiracy though.

 

What's actually going which is more in line with a conspiracy is in the realm of pornography. The amount of people, especially young boys, addicted to pornography is outrageous. Many have developed warped tastes as a result of escalating their ongoing need for stimulation. They get bored with one thing and then can immediately find something else more 'interesting' around the corner on the internet. I practice retention for months sometimes, so I've also visited non-Taoist places where people practice this, and there seems to be a lot of boys in their teens / early twenties who have grown up with high speed internet who have become addicted to certain bizarre niches of porn, particularly transsexual porn believe it or not, that seemed to be a common one that kept popping up. These poor guys become extremely confused as a result, often suicidal even.

 

There's also other dark things involving the media, fear and shame going on, but it's probably outside the scope of this thread.

 

 

Often times in civilizations around the world when the culture becomes highly sexualized it is just around the corner from its end. Like Germany before the nazi revolution.

 

As for porn.. it's been looked into that looking at Porn is an addiction and alters the brains pathways and dopamine receptors as strongly as cocaine. Ita giving many young men erectile disfunction and ruining their views of the world.

 

And yet porn is so widely accepted. Our culture just sees it as a normal thing that goes along with being a healthy sexual person. It's ridiculous.alot of porn involves abuse rape and sex trafficking.

 

It should be banned in our country and just watch what happens to the men. Some may get angrier but many will transform their ways.

[Michael Sternbach]

Based on my experiences as a therapist, I would say that what is most harmful is the repression of sexuality. This has a long history in both Western and Eastern societies, and it's a continuing theme despite the known attempts at sexual liberation. In the course of the latter, the pendulum tends to swing a little far to the other side, to be sure - and generally without much resolution of the underlying conflict. Porn addicts are far from being sexually liberated individuals. Nor is porn really the source of their troubles, although it contributes to sustaining them where there is an outright addiction to it.

 

A final observation: In countries where porn is prohibited, men are hardly less kinky than in those where it is widely accepted.

[Taoway]

Based on my experiences as a therapist, I would say that what is most harmful is the repression of sexuality. This has a long history in both Western and Eastern societies, and it's a continuing theme despite the known attempts at sexual liberation. In the course of the latter, the pendulum tends to swing a little far to the other side, to be sure - and generally without much resolution of the underlying conflict. Porn addicts are far from being sexually liberated individuals. Nor is porn really the source of their troubles, although it contributes to sustaining them where there is an outright addiction to it.

 

A final observation: In countries where porn is prohibited, men are hardly less kinky than in those where it is widely accepted.

 

Good points... how would one figure out if they are suppressing it? If one chose to be celibate are they suppressing sexuality if they are also transmuting that energy into positive things