Channeling the Illuminati (after S.R.A) - doing well.

[Unseen_Abilities]

I got ritual abused as a kid - posted about it last year-and late in 2013 too.-I cannot describe how awful the things that have happened to people in these situations are..I did a channeling experiment after I remembered the S.R.A (Satanic Ritual Abuse) but I had to stop, the reason being that the triggered reactions from the Abuse are/were so severe it was too much to handle.Iknow the Cults of Satanwill do ANYTHING theycan to kill, rape, torture, -control in vicious manner anyone they can..if you get brought up there you will have years and years of hardcore physical memories thatget triggered left, right and centre - allday long..I've become a witch now, though - out of the cult! A cartoon called 'It's a Cult!' will be making an appearance by me on the internet at some point, too..anyway, it's rough - please learn about S.R.A and spread awareness!! Don't toy with the Occult, either..the evil in our collective consciousness runs deeper than deep - the way they work is to link all the magic inside the collective unconscious into Satan..they do this through continuous black magic, portraying themselves as Godly innocents who wouldn't ever eat feces as part of a Satanic ritual or deceive hundreds of thousands every single year with their energy..Thank you, Chaos Magic andMartial Arts, but DON'T underestimate how serious the Occult War on Planet Earth actually is! Respectfully, thank you - Unseen_Abilities.

[Grok]

Thank you for sharing your experience.

 

Do you have a link to that post?

[RiverSnake]

Sounds like your in a tough place Unseen. Hope things improve for you. Remember to practice some kind of internal work daily.

[Unseen_Abilities]

Grok - was murky andhazy at the time, as i reCall it may hAve beena Wise decision to go through some of my old posts and delete them.If you go to my profileand search through 'Posts' youmight Find it, otherwise I'msure I'll be writing about it (even elsewhere, like in a book or something) in the future.,OldChi - thanks for your words as always...it's been immensely difficult, but really I've done more internal work over the last year than you could shake or dao and ad infinitum a hollow bamboo reed at! It's big in Guitar-land in the future here at Unseen_Abilities!Thank you..u-a.

[Unseen_Abilities]

The.reeD does .NoChing, the.reeds do nothing..

[Unseen_Abilities]

Aikido.

[Unseen_Abilities]

(It's a Jo nowadays..) .UnsEen_Abilitites

[futuredaze]

That is truly horrible!  I'm curious to know more, like how they were able to use you for these rituals to begin with.  What were these groups like, did they have many members, what the member base was like, where they were located?  If you don't want to share any of this or prefer to do it via PM, that is fine too.

 

I remember when I lived in upstate NY, there was a lot of occult things seeped into local politics, environmental groups, businesses, pretty much every facet of the small town.  I'm not sure they group was performing S.R.A., I have no direct evidence, but some of my friends seemed to think so...

Edited July 8, 2015 by futuredaze

[thelerner]

I'm sorry for your horrible experiences, yet I also realize that in the 70's and 80's there were psychologists who used hypnosis to suggest and implant tales of satanic cults into young children's minds.  One in particular destroyed many families before his 'technique' was revealed.   There have been crazy preachers that have also found everyone in town that wasn't in their church or who disagreed with them was in a Satanic cult. 

[Taomeow]

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Edited July 9, 2015 by Taomeow

[Seth Ananda]

I'd doubly like to +1 thelerners post.

'How' you arrived at these memories is incredibly important

While SRA certainly does happen, it is very very rare.

'Uncovered' memories, often destroy lives and families.

If it was gained via hypnosis, past life regression, or a therapist who deals in SRA kind of stuff there is a very high possibility that it is all utterly a sham.

The problem {in the many many fake situations} though is that you 'remember' it and It feels so real.
But what is memory?
Do memories feel as vivid as dreams can be?

The dreaming mind is actually always active, but we only usually have awareness of it when our primary mind shuts down somewhat. Like in sleep, trance, hypnosis, past life regression or certain types of catharsis or hyper aroused states.

One of the dreaming minds functions is working as an experiential narrative device. That means that it is constantly making stories, to make sense of your life and to help find resolutions. In this function it can translate feeling and questions, fears and so on into images and symbolic story experiences.

Past life therapy will take a person who has a water phobia, down into dreaming mind, where invariably they will 'remember' drowning or some related nasty water incident, and then find a way to resolve it. Helpful dreaming mind!

The problems arise however when using techniques like this to get 'this life' information, or via a {sometimes well meaning} unscrupulous therapist who has wholly bought in to the satanic ritual abuse paradigm.
If you are wondering why you feel so shit, and wonder if maybe you were abused as a child, and go in in some way, the dreaming mind will happily give you experiential visions of your past that will offer validation to those questions or suspicions.

Unfortunately a lot of people believe these. Women claiming that they were satanic sex slaves for Elvis Presley, and other celebrities and presidents, that they were held down by their families who chanted "Go King Go" while they were raped, in underground satanic cathedrals or on equally bizarre locations.

Many went on to accuse or press charges against family members, and members of the community, destroying lives, family and trust.

Fortunately, many over time start to see the gaps more than the horrific content. little impossibilities that don't sync up, elements that don't make sense or bare up to scrutiny. - That uncle had already passed on at that age, that someone or other was overseas, or that doorway into the underground chamber defies logic, or my family despite selling me and being surrounded by uber rich and powerful satanists are still somehow poor or middle class mortgage suburbanites. Wtf?

This eventually helps the victim of these processes or 'therapists' to recognize it as the strange symbolisation and images of the dreaming mind that it usually is.

They can then try to rectify any damage they have done to others.

Anyone who thinks they are victims of SRA needs to closely examine the memories and how they arrived at them.




If you are someone who was genuinely abused in this fashion, then I am terribly sorry for you, and hope you find the help you need.

Seth.

Edited July 9, 2015 by Seth Ananda

[liminal_luke]

Sometimes knowing what did or didn´t happen matters.  Like say for legal reasons, or sociological reasons.  Or in making decisions about child care, etc.  

 

At other times, however, focusing on history can be a detour.  Regardless of past circumstances, one has to pick themselves up and deal with reality as it´s presenting itself right now.  If a person feels bad, for whatever reason, a useful approach is to focus on dealing with the emotions.  It doesn´t matter, in a sense, how accurate the story that goes with the emotions is.  What´s undeniable is the present day suffering, and that´s what has to be dealt with.

[Unseen_Abilities]

Well, it's undeniable to someone who's gone through the experiences typical of a, what they say 'S.R.A Survivor'-the times I've had before 'remembering',-nothing going right, ever, talking-to some Women is a big deal,even fromtalking to a guy tranny whatever really expecting them to be a Belial worshipper orinvoke Satan, then rape me- deep down this kind ofthing wasthe only stuff I was 'allowed'(think in-terms of 'Law of Attraction')tohave really, in the way ofo communication with other humans...the 'Father/Fajer',so to speak maywork for the government, long-since dead(read:generation gaps)relatives.. talked to the Queen of England and inventedd the ShRapnel bombs irresponsible twit, perhaps - two three generations inthe Illuminati? Talk to the hand, Ananda   I kid, of course - thanks forreplying.Talk one day for Acoffeeif you're InAustralia..!TomShrapnel/Unseen_Abilities..T.S.T.b.S.

[idiot_stimpy]

Unseen_Abilities, if I remember correctly, did one day you thought your father had ritually abused you? Or was that someone else?

[Grok]

Grok - was murky andhazy at the time, as i reCall it may hAve beena Wise decision to go through some of my old posts and delete them.If you go to my profileand search through 'Posts' youmight Find it, otherwise I'msure I'll be writing about it (even elsewhere, like in a book or something) in the future.,OldChi - thanks for your words as always...it's been immensely difficult, but really I've done more internal work over the last year than you could shake or dao and ad infinitum a hollow bamboo reed at! It's big in Guitar-land in the future here at Unseen_Abilities!Thank you..u-a.

 

Understood.

 

Be well bro.

 

Reach out if you ever need to talk/vent.

 

-grok

[Edward M]

Even without intervention by a hypnotherapist, it's possible to remember things that never happened.  I know because this happened to me.  It was caused by excessive worry over something, a personal issue.  

 

I'm not saying this has happened to you, but be mindful of the possibility, please.   I lost out on my twenties to false beliefs caused by these false memory's, if there is a possibility this has happened to you, please go and see a professional who can help you sort out in your mind if this really happened or not.  

 

A question to ask yourself is, do you remember the exact point you first remembered these memory's, and if so, what were you thinking about?    

 

All the best to you, whatever happened if these are real or false memory's, i honestly hope it all works out for you, i know what it's like! 

Edward

[idiot_stimpy]

Edward it is a possibility. I can have two different perspectives on the issue. One is that certain entities could be messing with him inserting false memories, or that it is the egos last ditch effort to stave off its impeding dissolution.  

[Edward M]

Idiot-Stimpy, could you say more about the implanting idea you expressed please?   i'm interested for obvious reasons. 

 

Another possibility could be that the memory's are a way of diverting pain from a personal issue to something else.  A way of expressing lack of hope.   

 

Cheers,

Edward

Edited July 9, 2015 by Edward M

[Taomeow]

There's also methods to squash emerging memories with suggestions that they are false.  This happened to me.   I had memories, then I was conditioned to believe they were false, and then I was unconditioned and remember again.  

 

The memory of secret and malicious groups abusing children in this-here consensus reality being merely a manifestation of variously induced or acquired false memories is a false one.  If you have it, all it means is that it has been painstakingly implanted.  This world is set up, with great care, to keep the practice of sacrifice of children, on which it is founded and functions, secret from the vast majority and to condition this majority to summarily pooh-pooh any information of such events.  That's the nature of the beast in whose jaws you let millions of children suffer and perish because you believe the beast is their false memory. 

[Edward M]

Hi Taomeow, i was sincerely trying to help unseen-abilities, i'm not suggesting this 100% didn't happen to him.  

 

I also believe this kind of thing does happen, almost everyday i read in the paper or see on the net more new stories of abuse by high ranking members of the government and celebrities.  I live in the UK which is a hotspot for all this.  

 

Peace

Edward

[blue eyed snake]

I do not want to say wheter someones memories are true or not.

 

But memory is a very strange thing. 

 

I rember that my father once cracked trough a gardenchair ( on his birthday), and it was so funny that i literally rolled over the floor laughing ( i was young, say 8 years old)  some years ago I remarked on it, like, talking about old and nice memories. My sister, who is ten years older than me, was not amused at all and accused me of making things up....

 

also i know i once saw a member of the family having a severe epileptic attack. because i am told that i saw it, in fact i ran to my older sister to tell her about it. And she remembers i was very shocked...i do not have memory at all...blank space in my head. ( i'm told that he was lying as dead in the hall, with froth at his mouth..., i was about 5 years old, went to the toilet or something and found him)

 

traumatic happenings can cause blank spaces in your head/mind, but the accompanying emotion (fear/anger/helplessness) then sticks itself in the body. And that body can react strongly to things that are like the original trauma.

 

sometimes the ' real' memory is gone, but we can't handle emotions without memory, and memories can be produced that are not ' true' but convey the panic/fear of the original trauma. When therapists/parent but also other kids ask for " why do you cry/ why do you scream/fold up etc... the mind creates answers. And when you have once told a story it is going to live it's own life.

 

Sometimes these memories are so not plausible that you are sure that it is not a true memory, but sometimes the ' madeupmemorie' could very well have happened.

 

I do not ' accuse' the original poster/people of making things up. What i describe is not fantasy. I also do not say that the story of the op is not true, i simply do not know. But I know that what i described here is not unusual for people who have suffered trauma.

 

So, for me the important thing is that someone is traumatized, that he or she need help. It's clear to me that the OP is in that situation.

 

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And about strange memories...and even though i do not especially like sharing it...but the thread seems to ask for it...

 

I do have a very clear memory of a guy killing me with a knife in my breast...well obviously I'm alive and typing...but that memory is awfully clear. I can see him walking towards me, acting friendly, and all of a sudden he raises his right hand, i then feel a big fear rising in my belly, i become freezed by fear....then he lowers his hand and and then the memory goes blank, i'm dead...

 

On the other hand, i was once raped by a guy who threatened me with with a knife, so the link is clear enough.

 

I know, with my mind/ purely cognitive, that this rape happened, real stuff, know the name of this guy etc. But I cannot go back to the real memory, that memory is a blanc, for good reason, it's far to scary..... And something in my mind made up this other memory, to have a picture to accompany the bodily felt emotions.

 

The setup and workings of the mind are mysterious,

 

Bes

[Aetherous]

Regardless of what your past and memories are...what matters is how you're living today, and what you want for your tomorrow. Is your life today going to lead to that tomorrow?

We all choose our paths through life...our choices can either be in line with what we think and say we want, and what prevents suffering for ourselves and others...in other words, more conscious choices. Or it can be not fully conscious choices, which cause us to experience further problems in life.

[noonespecial]

Don't toy with the Occult, either..the evil in our collective consciousness runs deeper than deep - the way they work is to link all the magic inside the collective unconscious into Satan....Thank you, Chaos Magic andMartial Arts, but DON'T underestimate how serious the Occult War on Planet Earth actually is!

 

I'm confused by this.

[Nungali]

and regardless of peoples real experiences we have to acknowledge also, I feel, that a lot of this has been exposed.

 

I researched and and wrote an article and busted a group here doing that. ... a group that tried to prove it was happening in my area. It is a long and interesting story involving media (local and national) how a story is picked up and spread, the local police, our 'pagan group' (which appears to have been the target) the originating Christian organisation ( including a rapidly departing local priest, that was later accused of paedophilia ) etc etc.

 

The people were associated (after I tracked them down) to a group operative in England some years back (that are now wanted by the police) , who previously left USA with charges pending. They set themselves up as 'Satanic Abuse councillors' and were found guilty of abusing the children themselves while in their 'protective care' 

 

It is an absolute scandal ... one guy had his door kicked in by disguised and armed officers who took their children and put them in 'protective' custody  and charged hil with abuse and would not allow him to see his own kids 

 

(Imagine if that happened  to you and your own kids ! )

 

During the court case, the reason for the move on this family was revealed, it was a neighbour who said he molested his kids at high altitude in a hot air balloon !

 

yes, the guy said, he did take his kids for a hot balloon ride ... but how would you know what I did up there, and why would I do that in the first place ??? 

 

Answer was "well, what else where you doing up there then ?  ... seriously!    As the cases went on, it all unravelled, to much shock and expose of what the government allowed, followed by much pain suffering and suing .

 

I am not denying that some sicko child abusers are out there and use all sorts of covers and excuses, but it has been prooved that this other side of the story is evident .

 

Also different cases in Western Australia ... where certain hypno 'therapists' were found to be the result of the problem ( See 'The Devil's Work' a book by the journo that covered all the stories and court cases ... several girls (then grown up) swore in court their own father molested them (after this hypno 'therapy' ) ... the court proved it was impossible, thats what started the investigation into the ;therapist' 

 

 

 

" Satanic abuse is a 'myth', a government-backed inquiry has concluded. No evidence was found to substantiate any of the 84 cases in which it was alleged that children were sexually abused in bizarre black-magic rites.

 

The findings, exclusively revealed by the Independent on Sunday in April, were published yesterday after a three-year inquiry conducted by Jean La Fontaine, emeritus professor of social anthropology at the London School of Economics.

 

The report blames Evangelical Christians and self-proclaimed 'specialists' for the scare which led to police investigations across Britain from 1988 to 1991. The conclusions will strengthen claims for compensation by families whose children were taken into care after false accusations of child sex abuse in satanic ceremonies."

 

rest of article 

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/satanic-abuse-dismissed-as-myth-by-government-inquiry-report-blames-evangelical-christians-and-specialists-for-the-scare-which-led-to-investigations-rosie-waterhouse-reports-1420013.html

 

Beware! 

[Nungali]

I'm confused by this.

 

 

Check the origin of the confusion ... someone , one way or another has been led to be very confused .