Is it possible that ISIS is fake?

[Karl]

There will be lots of ISIS amongst those refugees. The numbers are 70% men and only 20% Syrian. Pretty much a Pareto split. Can't blame them for escaping the mess that U.S. Foreign policy has created. Once we have the ISIS Trojan horse in Europe we can expect further security clampdowns in our own countries and demands for more intervention abroad. Our leaders have led us into a hell from which they, and the establishment they represent, will extract whatever outcome they have planned for us whilst avoiding any difficulties for themselves.

[LAOLONG]

Isis is International secret intelligence

service ;-)

Edited September 15, 2015 by cobi

[Karl]

Isis is International secret intelligence

service ;-)

 

Sssshhhh! We aren't supposed to know that. :-)

[Rocky Lionmouth]

Crapallofit, i had written a nice post here and stupid tablet deleted it!

 

I dont think any terrorist organization would expose any intended infiltrators to travel with refugees. If they have dangerous operators in europe they've been here for a good while now, staying out of the spotlight and preparing in secret. Why send people en masse together with a group that is going to be heavily scrutinized as soon as the dust settles just a bit?

Also, with all the media coverage of refugees they'd run the risk of being recognized. Perhaps defectors are fleeing with refugees?

Europes main concern when it comes to terrorist attacks is far right extremists, statistically its those groups that are responsable for the largest amount of attacks here. Still the main focus of discussion falls back to muslims first and foremost and after them anarchists and far left extremist groups.

 

I think any claim ISIS makes of refugees being their trained infiltrators is to be considered an attempt to spread fear and thereby increasing tension and friction between european governments, european civilians and refugees, so they can swoop in and recruit disillusioned youngsters to their ranks when the damage is done. Increasing and triggering repression until critical mass is reached within a community is a common idea of strategy in hopes of overthrowing the established order or radicalizing a group to the point of them lashing out or striking back.

 

Like Basher said the probability of so many men fleeing is because of the risk of recruitment, perhaps even forced. Another explanation could be that the dangers of the trip might be easier for a man to face, and that once his asylum application is under way he might have a chance to have his family join him through a safer route.

 

I dont think ISIS is very popular with the civilians, i think most people are confused and scared of all the fighting. With so many allegations of false flag operations targeting civilians and the casualties from the regimes indiscriminate bombings of densely populated areas it's gotta be hell to know who's who and wether they're out to kill you or not.

Also many afghans are fleeing iraq since their situation turned to shit also. Kurds are as always in the crosshairs also, even more since Turkeys election did not go as their president had hoped. There are a lot of people out there fleeing for different reasons and from different places.

 

Also, european asylum processes arent an unchaperomed walk in an amusement park either.

My point is: you dont leave home travelling through potentially deadly routes unless home is in the major league of crap situations.

Edited September 16, 2015 by Rocky Lionmouth

[Perceiver]

I wouldnt say that rocky. Europe receives refugees from the Balkans even though those countries are not plagued by civil war. They are financial refugees.

[Horus]

Edited January 28, 2016 by Horus

[idiot_stimpy]

They control both sides.