Karl Posted October 7, 2015 As I said on post 2, this thread has Pit written all over it and should never have been posted at all. Well we don't agree on much these days, but absolutely on that score. It seemed destined to stir up mud and that's exactly what it did. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chang Posted October 7, 2015 Moderation Message Karl has been suspended from the forum for a period of 48 hours for the making of posts on this thread of a negative and derailing nature. This will allow a return to the original topic by those who have positive comments to make. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nikolai1 Posted October 7, 2015 Come back Karl - all is forgiven! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seth Ananda Posted October 7, 2015 I thought Nuwa was Womens cultivation but not barred to men, whereas there is a specific sub section within there called "Womens Sanctuary" which is women only. Plus some of the threads were moved in there from other sections which accounts for some of the male posters Not that I see any difference between male and female cultivation myself Thank you Jetsun, that appears to be exactly how it works. What a good idea! That pretty much answers my query for this thread 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jetsun Posted October 7, 2015 It in no way suggests that men are not allowed to comment in this thread. Whilst I am a member of the Moderation team I was not posting with my Mod Cap on. I was simply "asking" for a level of decent behaviour. It is my belief that you are well aware of this and are engaged in simple mischief making. Your behaviour is in fact derailing this thread and I would suggest that you discontinue. You said: "I would ask that any further comment in this thread is left for female users of that section of the Dao Bums rather than us men making clever comments." Isn't that the same thing as saying men shouldn't post in this thread? Seems pretty plain to me and what Karl was referring to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nikolai1 Posted October 7, 2015 Time for Seth to fall on his sword methinks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chang Posted October 7, 2015 You said: "I would ask that any further comment in this thread is left for female users of that section of the Dao Bums rather than us men making clever comments." Isn't that the same thing as saying men shouldn't post in this thread? Seems pretty plain to me and what Karl was referring to. It is not the same thing as saying that men should not post in this thread. If you choose to misconstrue my words then you are free to do so. I have already clarified my intent and do not intend to do so again. I urge that further posts in this thread stay on topic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jetsun Posted October 7, 2015 How is it misconstrued? You explicitly and clearly expressed the desire that only women should post in this thread. It's clear as day for everyone to see. Then you ban someone for not agreeing with your authoritarian position. Something is very wrong here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liminal_luke Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) Eh...decided not to post after all. Applying my all too often forgotten if-I´m-just-posting-to-hear-myself-talk-delete-it rule. Edited October 7, 2015 by liminal_luke 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dawei Posted October 7, 2015 Thank you Jetsun, that appears to be exactly how it works. What a good idea! That pretty much answers my query for this thread Yes, Jetsun has explained it correctly and it is the sub-forum which is 'women only'. And while Nuwa and Fuxi do not exclude the other gender, it is supposed to be strongly focused topics to the one gender. That was a mouthful, so I'll try to give some examples: Nuwa: Topics focused on women's cultivation but men could post to it if the topic is focused on women's cultivation. Fuxi: Topics focused on men's cultivation but women could post to it if the topic is focused on men's cultivation. Kunlun Garden Grotto: If the topic is cultivation for both genders or when in doubt about if the focus is really going to be on one side, then also post it here. @Seth: Thanks for raising this... members with some history here know this is not about segregation but rather an attempt to value all members... and a recognition that a 99% male forum do not easily extend such value to female members. I believe this has given some female members something they would never otherwise get and gives them a reason to be here... and opens up our gender discussions even more. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted October 7, 2015 Yes there is a Mens forum, a Buddhist forum, a Hindu forum and Occult forum... If someone really wants one they can probably get one. Please try to stay on topic. I helped spearhead the move that got those forums created, and I have not looked till then. I was curious how it was going, and saw a bunch of stuff from men there. I was not there to comment as it is not my place to comment. That is why I posted it in general. The shit women have had to deal with on this forum from certain men here, and the shit storm that ensued from trying to get proper forum rules in place to disallow marginalizing, sexist or hateful comments towards any group led to the creation of those subforums. Anyway, hopefully Jetsun is right. ... and the shit you are getting for even bringing it up 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted October 7, 2015 Having said that, Seth, I just had a look in Nvwa, and it would appear that there have only been a couple of new topics started in the last few months, and that our female members just haven't had much to say... in the same way that there hasn't been much male activity in the Fuxi section (though there have been more than enough topics posted about the overtly male topic of semen retention in the Daoist Discussion and other forums... ) Maybe they need to practice 'post retention' - it could be a similar ...... issue. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted October 7, 2015 As I said on post 2, this thread has Pit written all over it and should never have been posted at all. fear ? ... anger ? some sort of unfairness ?... annoyance for some reason ?... WTF is your underlying problem with it ? Its like some people here are worried about what the topic might bring up ... well, it IS gonna bring something up ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted October 7, 2015 Moderation Message Karl has been suspended from the forum for a period of 48 hours for the making of posts on this thread of a negative and derailing nature. This will allow a return to the original topic by those who have positive comments to make. Told ya ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted October 7, 2015 Not long after that forum was created, I made a post in it about what I thought was an interesting subject for women, but also men. I was asked why I chose that forum to put it in. My reason was simple ( to me ) but I detected something else inside the question, So, without argument, I politely retired ... and haven't been back . Why do some of you guys need to poke it ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted October 7, 2015 Why do some of you guys need to poke it ? Double entendre. HA! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liminal_luke Posted October 7, 2015 Well, if we can´t post in the Women´s Sanctuary, at least we can still post in the general forum about how we feel about not posting in the Women´s Sanctuary. I guess that´s something. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gendao Posted October 8, 2015 (edited) Maybe i'm missing something but I am curious how the women here feel about the invasion? Like innate self-worth as a man and the subtext to your pretext? Emotional confrontation, and abuse can be very damaging. Indeed, especially deepset dysfunctions like codependency for all involved... Edited October 8, 2015 by gendao 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted October 8, 2015 Like innate self-worth as a man and the subtext to your pretext? Indeed, especially deepset dysfunctions like codependency for all involved... What does this post have to do with the subject at hand? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thelerner Posted October 8, 2015 Eh...decided not to post after all. Applying my all too often forgotten if-I´m-just-posting-to-hear-myself-talk-delete-it rule. huh, if I followed that I'd.. probably.. have.. a much lower post count.. like 10 . Still, the subject on hand is- On the Female Only sub-forum, its supposed to be woman only. I broke that rule once, was reminded of it, and backed away. Simple respect, nothing fancy or philosophizing about it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gendao Posted October 8, 2015 (edited) ^^ What's the subject have to do with reality at hand? Just a quick scan of Nuwa shows the current top 5 threads by men(?) to be:Iron Supplement for Women?Female DanMeaningful pictures of woman alchemyThe Auspiciousness of Being a Woman: Yeshe Tsogyal, Tibet's Amazing Mother"Sita Ram'" (Hindu related singing)Does the OP really have a problem with such diverse topical contributions - simply because they come from men? Are the men here that desperate to be seen as teachers or guides to women Lol, paging Byron Katie... Edited October 8, 2015 by gendao Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted October 8, 2015 (edited) Double entendre. HA! Did you like the quadruple one at post # 37 too Edited October 8, 2015 by Nungali Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted October 8, 2015 (edited) < snip > graphs , slogans, diagrams etc <snip > Go away .... or I shall subdue your knight with my white dragon . Edited October 8, 2015 by Nungali Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted October 8, 2015 Get him boy ! Hey give me back my avatar 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
