AussieTrees Posted October 18, 2015 (edited) :?: Edited April 9, 2016 by AussieTrees 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soaring crane Posted October 18, 2015 huh. I'm 52 and haven't had a check-up since my Army days, which ended in 1986. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ish Posted October 18, 2015 (edited) - Edited April 4, 2018 by Ish 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leth Posted October 18, 2015 (edited) Friends talk of their checkups. "Had my cholesterol checked" "Had my blood sugars done" Â Let say for over forties,what should we have checked. Â Over fifties,should they have more tests? Â Sixties surely they need more testing. Â Well there are a number of reasons check ups serves a good purpose in general. Â First and foremost it serves the purpose of detecting subtle symptoms that might indicate a potentially fatal disease in it's earlier stages where the chanes of treating it is higher. Secondly it makes sense to check for subtle changes in health that could also be averted before they turn into a disease if the general health does not improve. The results from a chexk up could simply just help suggest improvements of health which might not really decreas chances of disease but instead just increases the quality of life. Â And as we get older we are more prone to health issues becuase our energies and/or bodies have been worn out, but also because it increases the chance of something subtle dveloping into something less subtle. Â When do we stop testing?is there an age when all testing is futile? Â Some tests are futile after a certain age, others are never really futile, but perhaps not something that needs to be repeated too often. Edited October 18, 2015 by leth 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soaring crane Posted October 18, 2015 Get your eyes checked at least. *thumbs up*  More and more important as you age, too!  Forgot about the eyes, haha. I had them lasered three years ago and that involved a LOT of examanation beforehand.  Also, I've been in the hospital a few times and they always check everything. Last time was for stroke-like symptoms, which turned out to be .... nothing. Maybe a migrane? I had three days of nothing but medical tests, everything imaginable, including cancer screenings, and all values were tops.  I've also gone through a few stress tests related to my running sports. Forgot about those, too. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vonkrankenhaus Posted October 19, 2015 I stopped going to doctors entirely, many decades ago. Before many of the people on this forum were born. Â Looking back, I saw that not one of the experiences anyone in my extended family had with medical treatments was actually positive or resultant in health. Each "treatment" seemed to come with its own set of side-effects, professional mistakes, and additional health problems. Â I realized that if I couldn't handle the responsibility of my own life and health, then I couldn't truly help even my own children live free and happy lives. Â Â Â Â -VonKrankenhaus 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ell Posted October 19, 2015 What's annoying for me, personally, right now (during a time of insurance change) is that there are a couple things I do need to go to specialists for....and I can't do that without having a PC for referrals. Otherwise, I'd completely cut off general visits like some posters above me have mentioned. I just haven't met many doctors I really trust and that's an important thing for me. They're rushed, they can never figure out what's wrong with me, and most of the time their medicine just makes me sick.  A chiropractor once actually said to me, "Nine out of ten patients that come in here are horses; you're the zebra."  Such is life I guess. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vonkrankenhaus Posted October 20, 2015 (edited) The idea is to become healthy enough to live at least as freely as a squirrel or chipmunk does. Â In the forest I watch them everyday. Â They had not one professional appointment. Â Imagine if I asked a hawk flying overhead - "Who is your insurance carrier?" Â All of Nature is laughing at us, "the most advanced beings on the planet". Â Â Â - VonKrankenhaus Edited October 20, 2015 by vonkrankenhaus 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vonkrankenhaus Posted October 20, 2015 Re: ----- "Aren't squirrels prey for hawks?" ----- Â Surprisingly, not very often at all. Â In our last camp, we watched hawks for about a year, but we've watched them also many many times before. Â Close-range rodent-chasing stuff like that is more like what we see with owls, at night. Â In the city - yes, squirrels can be quite messed-up, as with everything else there. Â Â Â -VonKrankenhaus 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Posted October 20, 2015 Over 40's check for thyroid hormones TSH, T3, T4, and Cortisol. they show the stress level you are exposed, the state of adrenal glands (ming men). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vonkrankenhaus Posted October 21, 2015 Isn't a "checkup" actually just a process of reviewing or scanning a customer to find out what can be sold to them? Â There are places where a person can drive up and park, and a guy will come up and say "I can sell you a new windshield for that thing, look, you got a crack in yours", etc. Â Most of what is proposed is,,, preposterous. Â But today, when they say a child "needs" chemotherapy, they take the parents to court if they (parent or child) refuse it. Â The hospital, aided by the state which licenses them, will take "legal" custody and try to perform whatever procedures or treatments the federal government is reimburing them for. Â They will experiment on those children, because they recieve federal grant money for doing so. Â Â Â -VonKrankenhaus 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horus Posted October 22, 2015 Friends talk of their checkups. "Had my cholesterol checked" "Had my blood sugars done" Â Let say for over forties,what should we have checked. Â Over fifties,should they have more tests? Â Sixties surely they need more testing. Â When do we stop testing?is there an age when all testing is futile? Â Men are guilty of not being tested,due to what? Â Going to all those dr's means one needs one's head checked 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AussieTrees Posted October 22, 2015 Well,if you find yourself in front of doctor,you may be unwell. The more time you spend in doctors company,you may be very unwell. On a first name basis,could mean trouble. So it is reasonable,if you can stay clear of doctors,you could be alright. Â Still when pieces are falling off,they can be very helpful in stitching humpty back together again. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horus Posted October 22, 2015 Still when pieces are falling off,they can be very helpful in stitching humpty back together again. Â Yeh, I'll try super glue first thanks all the same... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AussieTrees Posted October 23, 2015 Thankyou to all, Â Luckily my only visits to the doctors is anti-biotics,if ever get a chest infection. Â Never had cholesterol checked. Â Really be happy to move along by natural causes,doctors can extend your life a bit. Â When the day comes along,I'm sure it will be to soon,so have thoughts daily of dying. Maybe it will be today?Then when retiring to bed,have thoughts of waking alive? Â Seems to make life feel a bit longer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leth Posted October 23, 2015 Isn't a "checkup" actually just a process of reviewing or scanning a customer to find out what can be sold to them? Â There are places where a person can drive up and park, and a guy will come up and say "I can sell you a new windshield for that thing, look, you got a crack in yours", etc. Â Most of what is proposed is,,, preposterous. Â But today, when they say a child "needs" chemotherapy, they take the parents to court if they (parent or child) refuse it. Â The hospital, aided by the state which licenses them, will take "legal" custody and try to perform whatever procedures or treatments the federal government is reimburing them for. Â They will experiment on those children, because they recieve federal grant money for doing so. Â This is a systematic problem with healt care systems that revolves on monetary gain. Â Coming from a welfare state i naturally have a different view of this, but then again I view health care system which requires monetary exchange with great disdain for so many reasons. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AussieTrees Posted October 23, 2015 Hi all, Â We have been born,but not everyone's journey is the same. Â Met this girl years ago at work,a few years younger,after a while got chatting. Tells me she has had over thirty operations on her feet as they facing backwards from birth. Â For a time we were friends,then there was her next operation,so she take leave. She passed away during one of her operations. Â Progressing on her journey? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites