ilumairen Posted October 19, 2015 Des: if everything is looking everywhere then there is infinity, and no dead ends. Agree with Michael sternbach. Existence produces meaning. No dead ends, and dead ends everywhere. Meaning is a game we like to play with ourselves. And I'm not talking about the meaning of words this time. I'm talking about the big meaning of life thing that we like looking for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brian Posted October 19, 2015 But what was the question? I'll have to get back to you on that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted October 19, 2015 There are no answers. The universe is phenomena and what is not phenomena. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Everything Posted October 19, 2015 Reading Alan Watts I came across the idea that we are the universe waving at itself. I liked that and have come back to it time and again. We are the universe questioning itself, answering itself, telling stories to itself. We are also meaningless specks of dust. Creators, destroyers.. and human. Oh so very human. And for all our grand thoughts and ideas, here we sit.*******************Good morning Everything. Good morning Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Everything Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) I'll have to get back to you on that...yeah, I'll be right back. Just have to get the wine out of this room sir. I'll be right back. The buttler says. The two man and woman were lying in bed making love to eachother. When suddenly the floor collapses and they fall with the bed down the floor. What is this. You"re in a party. "Yay, so glad you could make it." The teener said with toys all over his clothes. You see. Those toys aren't just any kind of toys. They are toys of trains that can go veeeery far... in to the dark mists... Of chaos and destruction. Where everything was horrible. Fire, people screaming, people gone missing kind of place! I see you got the point. *smashes pencil on his desk.* "Come on niggah, that's what I'm talking bout." *gives peace out* "Peace out man niggah, I'm done here." *Goes out the door* *comes back* "Ey yo man, I said I was out! ... Out there man... in the lonely world." What was this guy talking about? I'll tell you man. Look you gotta listen to the point. The point I was making is... I'm late to pick up my daughter for work. "You take your daughter to work?" She asks. "Well, she got some handy abilities that could proof valuable." You say. You say that. Falling out of your throwt. As in throwt. Throooooowt. Look man we got no time for these kind of games. What is more important then this game? See it live only on cnn. You're watching cnn at miracle life tv . Com. Check it out soon on your pc. That dusty old pc of yours. Man take out the garbage. I'll clean this old sht of yours. Here working all day... Tssss... I've been watching on the clock! And it is hypnotising. You're going on a daydream. Hang on, hang on, a train! Let me get you out of here! You're still not on a daydream. Remember that. "Oops. I feel it in my throat. Do you guys feel that? I was lying. Oh silly me. Always the naughty little liar." A man sitting next to him enlarged his head and screamed with spit all over his face in an angry tone of voice "I invented lying!" The naughty little liar was now covered all over by slime and spit from the man who invented lying. We now close the curtains because this show is about to embark on a new journey. A new journey of magic and might. A land where the men were fierce! They had power! Real strength! "Bam bam bam bam." Now wash his feet. This baby isn't going to clean itself. Yeah I know we're still on a journey. But the point is. We're washing this baby in these fierce lands. I think he got the point. Yeah he really did. Hurry up write this down. Uh... what were we writing again? The red alarm goes loudly of. Hurry up guys leave all your papers behind. Aaaaahh! Chapter two. Money. Man I was left with no money. They took all the money from my pockets. It was all empty. Not a coin to spare. Rolling down the ground. That lovely little coin. Oh lovely coin. Like a lovely bunny. Come here bunny let grandma squueze your lovely little nose. But ofcourse this was not a bunny but a coin. I thought I saw one. But no... it was just a daydream. As you can see. I'm all out of coins. To bad huh? Meh. Ah. What you gonna do. Meh. You see. Mehhhh mehhhh.. meehhhh mehhhh.. Mooooooo.. what a beautiful day it is among the sheeps and cows. The sun is shining on the bright green trees. Bird were flying over the sunlit sky. But those damn sheeps and cows really making weird noises. It's like they are trying to say something. "Meh. What you gonna do. I got no coins left." The man says like a ganster. He feels like he deserves a free ride on the roullette table. Where those balls roll around. You know. In circles. They spin really fast. Almost like a vortex. As if the ball is creating a hurricane. Right in the middle of the casino!! WTF! Get out of here. Get out of here. Hurry. Where is Tom. Did you see Claire? Hurry along get out of here. *kicks children on their butt* Now what was that for? God knows. He knows all about the weather too. But he never told us so we're making our own personal weathershows. Because we're having personal issues with god so we decided not to talk to god anymore. Kinda sad isn't it? Well what you gonna do. Just put your lipstick on and keep smiling! Edited October 19, 2015 by Everything Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Everything Posted October 19, 2015 Des: if everything is looking everywhere then there is infinity, and no dead ends. Agree with Michael sternbach. Existence produces meaning. Everything is connected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted October 20, 2015 Everything is connected. Only via energy though and healers and good martial artist know that energy can be redirected. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horus Posted October 22, 2015 Well, what IS the answer to the universe? Yes. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ilumairen Posted October 22, 2015 Yes. I tried saying, 'no thanks.' That hasn't worked out so well so ... yes. Thanks Horus. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leth Posted October 22, 2015 Everything is connected. Then what is disconnected? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted October 22, 2015 Those things that no longer exist and those things that have not yet come into existence? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted October 22, 2015 Those things that no longer exist and those things that have not yet come into existence? I see there are no answers at this time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted October 23, 2015 I see there are no answers at this time. True that is. Why did Tao give birth to One? She could have taken a birth control pill. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leth Posted October 23, 2015 Those things that no longer exist and those things that have not yet come into existence? So everything excludes those things that no longer eixst and those things that have yet to come? It is inherently temporal in it's definition? Is a cupt in any way connected to the future existance of that cup? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leth Posted October 23, 2015 True that is. Why did Tao give birth to One? She could have taken a birth control pill. Birth control pills are really bad for you, man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted October 23, 2015 So everything excludes those things that no longer eixst and those things that have yet to come? It is inherently temporal in it's definition? Is a cupt in any way connected to the future existance of that cup? Yeah, we can speak only of the "now" moment. The past is written in stone and the future hasn't happened yet. And besides, Tao is dynamic, ever changing. Here today, gone tomorrow. And we cannot forget about potential. It always exists. Not the manifest but the potential. Can't really call it something if it hasn't come into being yet, can we? Every "thing" is Tao manifest. Can't count Tao as it is not a "Thing". But the Ten Thousand Things are. I'm not even sure we could call the One, Two, and Three "things". Those are just the beginnings of the manifest. The "causes", if you will. A cup is a cup. It will exist even as a broken cup. But when its parts are scattered then perhaps it is no longer a cup. That last sentence could be built upon but I will leave it for now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted October 23, 2015 Birth control pills are really bad for you, man. Yeah, I was told that so I never took any. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bud Jetsun Posted October 23, 2015 When one ponders a question, this pondering is delusion. When one asks a question, this question is delusion. When one ponders and answer, this pondering is delusion. When one answers a question, this answer is delusion. The question and answer to all things to the limit of a humans ability to know it is perception of Now. All illusion of 'not-Now' is merely constructed fantasy. Unlimited Love, -Bud 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wu Ming Jen Posted October 23, 2015 The best answer to the universe is that it is not a question It is like asking what is the meaning of life, again it is put in a question format. Take away the question and there is the answer. I have no question about life or the universe because that type of intellectual knowledge prompted by a question of things deprives one from awareness of what is already experienced. An answer would be a partial understanding about one specific aspect of the question. The non physical and physical properties of being are understood simultaneously without separation or delay. My two cents and unlimited love to Bud. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dwai Posted October 23, 2015 - A child sits in his bedroom. On his desk. The windows are open, it's a cold dark night. The boy asks to himself. "What is the answer to the universe?" The cold wind is blowing his midlong brown hair. -A strong african american basketball player in the middle of nowhere, on Mars, with rocky mountains shouting red with a heavy voice yells: "Help!! No one knows!!!" -A female teacher with an angel like voice says: "the answer simply is, multliplied by one." She has a pencil between her fingers and is sitting behind her desk. -A construction worker on the moon surrounded by dark cans of red waste shouts "And now what?!" -A gay nerd in front of a green classroom, wearing dark red. Says in a teasing voice "Well, I don't know..." -"Now what?" asks an elegantly smiling male waitre, he's very thin and long offering you a glass of whine with his gentle fingers. "Is he asking me if I am ordering more food?" You think by yourself. -A Shouting knight in grey steel shining armor and holding his long steel two handed blade up in the air where he is drawing red thunder from the dark clouds above while he is standing atop a cliff. His face a fierce face of red with red shining eyes, very angry looking. "We were not ordering food!" He shouts. -A sfinx blue statue with golden stripes. With his thunder shaking stone voice, very heavy voice. he says. "What were you ordering!" With monsterly stone voice, heavy, and shaking the mountains in the desert. -"Well, we were ordering a pizza" you say in a crowded bright urban restaurant on a very bright day but you cant see the outside so you focus on the receit he's bringing to you, the waitres. And then you ask. "But what is the answer to the universe?" "Well, no one knows sir." He shrugs and walks away. -"There must be someone who knows the answer to the universe." Says a female captain. We open the gate and there she stood. "A real clone in our laboratory in our finest technology environment of our capital." We unseal the glass box while dark blue steam lowers out of it. And green organic dirt and slime comes out of it. And there she stood in the midst of all that waste. A little chick on top of a strider. But it had not the answer to the universe. It was just peeping "Ew ew." Well, what IS the answer to the universe? The baby gurgled and chortled. A voice from nowhere whispered 'it doesn't matter...' 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted October 23, 2015 When one ponders a question, this pondering is delusion. When one asks a question, this question is delusion. When one ponders and answer, this pondering is delusion. When one answers a question, this answer is delusion. The question and answer to all things to the limit of a humans ability to know it is perception of Now. All illusion of 'not-Now' is merely constructed fantasy. Unlimited Love, -Bud Are you trying to cause me illusions and delusions? Thanks, but I'll pass. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted October 23, 2015 When one ponders a question, this pondering is delusion. When one asks a question, this question is delusion. When one ponders and answer, this pondering is delusion. When one answers a question, this answer is delusion. The question and answer to all things to the limit of a humans ability to know it is perception of Now. All illusion of 'not-Now' is merely constructed fantasy. Unlimited Love, -Bud If you care to speak for yourself, fine. However, to claim that all persons are delusional has no basis in fact and stands unproven. Furthermore, your condemnation is insulting to persons that think for themselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted October 23, 2015 Are you trying to cause me illusions and delusions? Thanks, but I'll pass. Must be another Buddhist in preaching mode. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bud Jetsun Posted October 23, 2015 If you care to speak for yourself, fine. However, to claim that all persons are delusional has no basis in fact and stands unproven. Furthermore, your condemnation is insulting to persons that think for themselves. Each being is free to live in there own personal constructed delusion. They are each equally free to choose new awareness of reality as insulting if they wish to do so. This doesn't change the nature of human questions and answers from extending relevance beyond ones own individual choice to incorporate it into their own constructed delusion set. Each human is free to choose to believe that their own minds bias'/philosophy/logic/religion/beliefs are an equivalent and/or replacement for the nature of reality. All the same, the nature of reality to the limit of a humans ability to know it will remain perception of Now in emptiness. The nature of reality doesn't require anyone's acceptance or understanding, it equanimously remains the nature of human reality. Reality is Now and as humans we have a choice to perceive it or a choice to dwell in ones preference of constructed delusion sets. Unlimited Love, -Bud Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Sternbach Posted October 23, 2015 Those things that no longer exist and those things that have not yet come into existence? What no longer exists is also connected to what exists and what is going to exist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites