Sincere call for Help

[Perceiver]

A lot of people are going to comment in this thread without having any experience with the astral plane themselves. It's understandable, but not always the best thing.

 

I have some experience with the astral plane - not much, but a little. Here's what I will say:

 

First, make sure that your experience actually takes place in the astral plane and not a lucid dream. In my experience the difference is that my energy body tingles, vibrates and shakes almost like a washing machine just before popping into the astral plane. In the astral plane I typically find myself floating, and I can use my consciousness to guide the direction of my floating/flying. Also, when in the astral I am conscious from the get-go, and don't dream a normal dream and then become conscious half-way into it. In the astral plane I also find myself near or in my bed when I access the plane and not in some fancy dream world. Often the astral plane looks kind of dull.

 

Now, if your experience does take place in the astral world then there are a number of ways you can deal with it. Remember: The astral plane is made up of and manipulable by mind energy - intent, will, consciousness. So if you want these fuckers to go away you can visualize a big whopper of a sword and then swing it with your mind to chop their heads off. You could also just visualize the attackers being disintegrated, melting or spontaneously combusting. I got harassed by negative entities some years ago and when I struck back they disappeared. If it's a simple negative entity/astral dweller/astral junk then you should have no problem beating the crap out of him. If it's another entity - well, I've never actually spoken to a person who got harassed by anything else than a negative entity - the only people who talk about "demons" seem to be those who promote their "how to defeat a demon-book" - but if it's another type of entity then it maybe needs more whopping, or other methods entirely.

 

You could also just project yourself out of your house, by thinking up and projecting your energy body through the ceiling. Probably better to stay and fight though.

 

Another trick is to daily train the famous psychic shield or energy shield, as it will create an energy perimeter that negative entities are said to be unable to penetrate. Certain crystals like black tourmaline are also said to have defensive capabilities against negative energies.

 

You can look up Robert Bruce who has written about astral projection and psychic self-defense.

 

Best of luck

[SonOfTheGods]

 SotG, in your opinion, how much time should be spent building up the lower Tan Tiens and what are the signs that one could safely move on?

 

Thanks

 

I would advise applying the Yi @ the LDT until you can feel the sensation of warmth.

 

Then the MCO will not be 'false' but an actual energetic circulation

 

The major meridians become highly active.

 

The Niwan then has a solid foundation so it doesn't get overstimulated by Yang, which causes this (sometimes)

 

The Conception meridian allows Yin to balance the Yang

 

Tiger and Dragon consummate each other then.

 

If proper precautions and protocols are not maintained- the BaiHui stays open- the aura is not 'form fititng' around the head- thus the saying "out of their mind" 

[effilang]

Would you allow me to help you OP? Let me know.

Edited November 15, 2015 by effilang

[Tibetan_Ice]

Hello guys, I have been having some strange things happening in life lately. I thought long and hard before trying to compose this post. It seems like I am getting visitors when I am asleep. In my opinion I am getting visits by people who can astral travel. Couple time I woke up, meaning my astral body woke up and actually talked to the person as if I knew him.

 

The incident happened early in the morning. I saw (while I was asleep with third eye??) one guy standing inside of the door of my room. I could see the whole body of the person but the face was blurred. I actually greeted the guy as if I knew him by calling him uncle. Then I got up (my astral body ???) and next thing I know the guys is on top of me with his knees on my thigh. It hurt me (in dream??) so I called him to stop. He actually told me to stay still and shut up or he will kill me right there and then. Then I go blank not sure for how long and I woke up.

 

The thing is, I am having similar experiences on regular basis and I do not know how to stop it. I do not know what they do to me, after I go blank. I feel violated, and as if somebody is trying to control my thought and feelings. It has got me very worried. If somebody has similar experiences and some solution which they can suggest, it would be very helpful.

 

Thanks

Sunshine

Hi Sunshine,

Did these recent attacks start after you joined this forum?

Is there anyone from this forum whom has befriended you recently, offering any transmission, healing or psychic contact?

[wilfred]

sorry to hear about this. something cheap and easy to do is burning sage in your room, especially before bed. seems to be good at cleansing negative energy (wherever the hell it comes from) from the environment.

[Wu Ming Jen]

The only thing powerful enough to clean up this mess is sunshine, lots and lots of sunshine. By sunshine I mean light, the light that does not get brighter or darker, weaker or stronger, this light can not be stronger or weaker this light will illuminate the darkness and the darkness will follow this light and be beneficial to all things

[Sunshine007]

"Would you allow me to help you OP? Let me know.."

 

effilang

 

Sorry was this message directed towards me?

Edited November 16, 2015 by Sunshine007

[Brian]

"Would you allow me to help you OP? Let me know.Would you allow me to help you OP? Let me know.Would you allow me to help you OP? Let me know."

 

effilang

 

Sorry was this message directed towards me?

Yes, you are the OP (Original Poster).

[CodyWizard]

A lot of people are going to comment in this thread without having any experience with the astral plane themselves. It's understandable, but not always the best thing.

 

I have some experience with the astral plane - not much, but a little. Here's what I will say:

 

First, make sure that your experience actually takes place in the astral plane and not a lucid dream. In my experience the difference is that my energy body tingles, vibrates and shakes almost like a washing machine just before popping into the astral plane. In the astral plane I typically find myself floating, and I can use my consciousness to guide the direction of my floating/flying. Also, when in the astral I am conscious from the get-go, and don't dream a normal dream and then become conscious half-way into it. In the astral plane I also find myself near or in my bed when I access the plane and not in some fancy dream world. Often the astral plane looks kind of dull.

 

Now, if your experience does take place in the astral world then there are a number of ways you can deal with it. Remember: The astral plane is made up of and manipulable by mind energy - intent, will, consciousness. So if you want these fuckers to go away you can visualize a big whopper of a sword and then swing it with your mind to chop their heads off. You could also just visualize the attackers being disintegrated, melting or spontaneously combusting. I got harassed by negative entities some years ago and when I struck back they disappeared. If it's a simple negative entity/astral dweller/astral junk then you should have no problem beating the crap out of him. If it's another entity - well, I've never actually spoken to a person who got harassed by anything else than a negative entity - the only people who talk about "demons" seem to be those who promote their "how to defeat a demon-book" - but if it's another type of entity then it maybe needs more whopping, or other methods entirely.

 

You could also just project yourself out of your house, by thinking up and projecting your energy body through the ceiling. Probably better to stay and fight though.

 

Another trick is to daily train the famous psychic shield or energy shield, as it will create an energy perimeter that negative entities are said to be unable to penetrate. Certain crystals like black tourmaline are also said to have defensive capabilities against negative energies.

 

You can look up Robert Bruce who has written about astral projection and psychic self-defense.

 

Best of luck

 

Exactly...  Perciever understands because he has had the actual experiences, much like myself, and also gave the same advice as I did previously! I like to visualize by pointing my finger I can emit a strong force of power that can obliterate a dark enitity. Psychic energy is amplified in the astral plane.  

[Sunshine007]

Hi effilang,

              Sure. Please tell me how to get in touch. 

  Sunshine

[centertime]

Dustybeijing: Thanks for your good wishes. Now coming to whether my call for help is sincere or not as I went to meet the an astrologer is concerned, I will try to explain. 

 

First of all, I have taken in all the advice given to me and I am going to apply them selectively of course. So, me waiting for one month and not trying to find the real reason do not arise. And for the sake clarity I would like to list these advice serially.

 

1. I should take it easy and do some grounding work as I may have lot of energy in my head causing me to see things which might be my own projections rather than some external entity attacking me. 

 

>>>I have already reduced my practice and observing myself to the best of my ability to point the possible reason for these nightmares.

 

2. I should do some detox and salt water baths are helpful. 

 

>>> Well I have not bought rock salt yet. But i am planning to buy it.

 

3. I should mentally reject the intruder (if it is external that is) and apply some protective method.

 

>>> I am reiki second degree practitioner so, I apply power symbol when I feel vulnerable.

 

There are other  advice to but we will live it at the moment.

 

So, we can summarize all the diagnosis into three categories.

1. The experience could be due internal agency. That is me.

2. The experience could be due to external agency.

3. Or it could be due to combination of both with one feeding of with of other.

 

So, to solve the problem, I need to have clear mind which can be achieved by balancing energy in my head and by the help of detox. Then, I will be able to see things clearly and maybe reach the bottom of the problem. And if I see the problem as internal, the deal with it and not run from it as you put it. 

 

I thought long and hard but I think the problem is number 3, as number 2 do not come alone. I do not have any defense against 3, that's why I called out for help. I would like assure you it is very much genuine. 

 

As far as astrologer is concerned. It seems you do not believe in astrology. There are people who do not believe in taoism as well but I think you know it to be true. So, I will it at that. 

 

Sunshine

Couple of notes if you allow

You missed this:

"Lots of great stuff here - another quick little method is lying flat on the floor face down, with the forehead pushed into the ground. Its a simple kind of protestation posture which helps me"

 

3. is risky if you rejecting yourself, it can make things worse.

 

Nobody suggested... what about sending love to perpetrator which may be your shadow? and see what effect it has on him....

Love your shadow?

Edited November 16, 2015 by centertime

[effilang]

Hi effilang,

              Sure. Please tell me how to get in touch. 

  Sunshine

 

You can message me on FB: https://www.facebook.com/effilang

It won't take more than 10 minutes.

[flowing hands]

Hi Sunshine007, if all fails you could contact me and I can beg the Immortal masters for you and send you something

 

Good luck

 Flowing Hands

[woodcarver]

This is going to sound cliche but I'm a big fan of environmental factors. Is your life, surroundings, and diet stable?

[Sunshine007]

Woodcarver: Life not sure but diet and surrounding is pretty stable.

 

Sunshine

[gendao]

The only thing powerful enough to clean up this mess is sunshine, lots and lots of sunshine. By sunshine I mean light, the light that does not get brighter or darker, weaker or stronger, this light can not be stronger or weaker this light will illuminate the darkness and the darkness will follow this light and be beneficial to all things

Or do you (subconsciously) mean Sunshine007 himself?

 

And I would agree with centertime too, entities "attacks" are actually usually your Shadow Self attempting to reintegrate with you. You cast some aspect of you off at one point, and it has been trying to gain reacceptance and love back ever since...

 

If so, all the defensive measures suggested here would likely only backfire in the long run, and make the "attacks" and "need" for reconciliation even more intense.

Edited November 21, 2015 by gendao

[Tibetan_Ice]

Hi Sunshine,

Just a follow up. Did anyone's transmission from this site actually resolve your problem, make it worse or have no effect?

 

TI