Nungali Posted November 19, 2015 Why are some people claiming that posts are disappearing in the current Mopie thread ? ( and please dont disappear this one ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dawei Posted November 19, 2015 Why are some people claiming that posts are disappearing in the current Mopie thread ? ( and please dont disappear this one ) Due to the Owner's Permissions... folks can remove their own posts. I explained this to staff based on the post you are talking about. I personally find this is a good thing and we don't need to raise any concern over it. If you really feel that you should not of posted something, with Owner's Permission, you can remove it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brian Posted November 19, 2015 FWIW, Bums have hidden about a dozen posts in that thread. While I agree this is generally "a good thing," it does carry with it the potential to substantially change the character of posts in the thread by obfuscating the context of posts in reply to statements later removed. I think it is a tactic ripe for abuse by bad actors and one which warrants the attention of the moderation team. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) Ohhh ... they are self removed .... thanks. Ummmm ... how do I buy an owner's permission ? (or is that a posters de-embarrassment commission ) Edited November 19, 2015 by Nungali 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted November 19, 2015 Its Okay ... I am joking . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chang Posted November 19, 2015 Due to the Owner's Permissions... folks can remove their own posts. I explained this to staff based on the post you are talking about. I personally find this is a good thing and we don't need to raise any concern over it. If you really feel that you should not of posted something, with Owner's Permission, you can remove it. Whilst it can ideed be a good thing there is also the negative to be considered. The removal, by a contributor, of all of their posts can make a complete nonsense of a thread. This can and will be done deliberately in many cases. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted November 19, 2015 Whilst it can ideed be a good thing there is also the negative to be considered. The removal, by a contributor, of all of their posts can make a complete nonsense of a thread. This can and will be done deliberately in many cases. One of the main reasons I have always been against the authority to remove posts. Editing already allow for much latitude. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soaring crane Posted November 19, 2015 I thought only the thread's initiator aka OP could moderate the content. Seems I was mistaken 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dayzhaze Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) One of the main reasons I have always been against the authority to remove posts. Editing already allow for much latitude. . Edited November 19, 2015 by dayzhaze Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dawei Posted November 19, 2015 One of the main reasons I have always been against the authority to remove posts. Editing already allow for much latitude. True... but deleting all your typed content vs removing the post seems very little difference except folks see that someone removed their content. In either case, the content is gone. What I gather so far, from the few times it was used, is that folks really regretting getting involved in posting in the thread wrote a comment to that effect. I think that for now, giving folks the ability to remove their own post one of two ways gives them more responsibility in posting. Time will tell if it is abused. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dawei Posted November 19, 2015 I thought only the thread's initiator aka OP could moderate the content. Seems I was mistaken I thought so too But it seems that this would be incredibly difficult or time consuming to try and police... and a big part of these permissions was to have less [need of] moderating. As folks starting using it on their own, I'd rather see how that works out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bluefire Posted November 19, 2015 Editing already allow for much latitude. It feels now like reading a 100 page book but having only 70 and no clue which ones are missing. In the past you got at least the empty pages at the correct position and knew where something was missing. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dawei Posted November 19, 2015 It feels now like reading a 100 page book but having only 70 and no clue which ones are missing. In the past you got at least the empty pages at the correct position and knew where something was missing. There's a little bit of exaggeration going on here... but the fact is, most of the removed posts were by folks who support Mopai training... So, they just didn't seem to feel it was worth sharing their discussion points in the end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soaring crane Posted November 19, 2015 Tip for those who hide half their posts: Take a deep breathe and really think about what you're doing before you hit the post button. Also, please don't complain about others before getting your own house in order. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted November 19, 2015 I have actually edited one of my 30,000 posts but that was per request of a moderator. I had been naughty. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted November 20, 2015 I have actually edited one of my 30,000 posts but that was per request of a moderator. I had been naughty. No comment . I just want this here so you cant remove it later. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MooNiNite Posted November 20, 2015 Whilst it can ideed be a good thing there is also the negative to be considered. The removal, by a contributor, of all of their posts can make a complete nonsense of a thread. This can and will be done deliberately in many cases. It is especially important to hide your posts in Mo Pai threads, lest you get yourself caught up arguing about nothing for days on end. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted November 20, 2015 (edited) Then I would have thought one would not post there in the first place if they thought that Ohhhh .... hang on a minute .... It is especially important to hide your posts in Mo Pai threads, lest you get yourself caught up arguing about nothing for days on end. Then I would have thought one would not post there in the first place if they thought that Edited November 20, 2015 by Nungali 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted November 20, 2015 ... lest you get yourself caught up arguing about nothing for days on end. But there are people who do that their entire lifetime. What's a couple of days? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MooNiNite Posted November 20, 2015 Then I would have thought one would not post there in the first place if they thought that Ohhhh .... hang on a minute .... Then I would have thought one would not post there in the first place if they thought that I guess i'm not the enlightened master you take me for Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted December 10, 2015 I have actually edited one of my 30,000 posts but that was per request of a moderator. I had been naughty. Okay. That count is now two. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soaring crane Posted January 1, 2016 Speaking of missing threads, it's been my understanding, and my experience behind the scenes, that admin here doesn't edit or delete posts let alone entire threads. But that seems to have happened today, in conjuction with a moderation announcement which was locked for comment, in contrast to established policy. Bodes not well for the new year, imo. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dawei Posted January 2, 2016 Speaking of missing threads, it's been my understanding, and my experience behind the scenes, that admin here doesn't edit or delete posts let alone entire threads. But that seems to have happened today, in conjuction with a moderation announcement which was locked for comment, in contrast to established policy. Bodes not well for the new year, imo. Moved to the abyss... which I think you are aware of They contain information which includes the reasons for the recent banning as well as many references to member's names. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chang Posted January 2, 2016 (edited) Moved to the abyss... which I think you are aware of They contain information which includes the reasons for the recent banning as well as many references to member's names. The threads concerning the recent events involving the Mo Pai and More Pie factions on the forum have been locked. The Mo Pai faction has been banned from the forum and although a Moderation Log has been opened this also is locked. We appear to have had a "Night of the Long Knives" and I for one await an explanation. Edited January 2, 2016 by Chang Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soaring crane Posted January 2, 2016 Moved to the abyss... which I think you are aware of They contain information which includes the reasons for the recent banning as well as many references to member's names. no, I don''t see it anywhere (???). Regardless, there were productive posts in that thread from various members who aren't (always) involved in the dramtics. Those posts are now gone, too. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites