Moderation on TDBs

[soaring crane]

The 'in' crowd is pretty much everyone who shows respect for others and there arts.  Its not a hard clique to get into.  You don't have to agree, this site is about discussion and argument, but there's a line where  behavior becomes obnoxiousness and there is Mo Pai 'clique' that constantly passes over that line, imo. 

 

Thats very well said, and accurate, thanks!

 

Taking the liberty to speak for the rest of the mod staff, nobody "behind the scenes" here gives two figs about MoPai.

[dawei]

So why invent false rule violations?

 

Hi Ken... nice to see you opening yet another website.  Hope that gains interesting

 

I think Jetsun has really explained most of this, here and in the other thread.   I think as you know, what most members really see and remember is about 10-20%.  In the back-end, we have all the documentation needed over the years.  The insulting, belittling, spamming, etc is well noted.   And he had a staff member friend who tried to help and communicated with him, and this is documented as well...  I could say more but I'm not sure what that really do to improve this situation as most will only see what they want to see or what they saw and that is the picture they paint.

 

Hi Jetsun,

 

My mentor and friend Morepie insulted the systems they practiced, not the people themselves, and therein lies the difference. He was not banned for breaking rules, he was banned because you and your group didn't like him.  Full stop.

 

This is emphatically wrong.  You really know nothing about this, it seems.  Your saying this much already shows it.   I'd really stop while you are way behind on understanding any of this.  It is all documented... including his PMs to folks. 

 

You just banned someone for something they said on some other forum.

 

Next up there have been several members of the mopai skype group to join this forum, and be instantly banned when they take up for morepie.   Many people on the other forum have requested alt accounts because they are worried if they say something critical over there they will be banned over here, as was Narew. But yet you pretend there is no problem. Disgusting!

 

This again shows a complete lack of understanding of overseeing a website and the history which is documented on members who come here to insult not just the members but the entire community.   Narew needs no explanation. He said it all himself.  It is all documented.   As well as all the puppet accounts attempted.   This alone is most damaging.

 

TDB is not a place to come and play out conspiracy theories or be a martyr to some cause.  You'll find 10,000,000 other websites for that.   

 

If someone comes here to share their journey, path, practice, and life experiences, ups and downs, and asks questions and gives their own insight to topics of interest... then they will likely find this site welcomes them and they might find some common ground with others.

[WIldCat]

Hi Ken... nice to see you opening yet another website.  Hope that gains interesting

 

I think Jetsun has really explained most of this, here and in the other thread.   I think as you know, what most members really see and remember is about 10-20%.  In the back-end, we have all the documentation needed over the years.  The insulting, belittling, spamming, etc is well noted.   And he had a staff member friend who tried to help and communicated with him, and this is documented as well...  I could say more but I'm not sure what that really do to improve this situation as most will only see what they want to see or what they saw and that is the picture they paint.

 

 

This is emphatically wrong.  You really know nothing about this, it seems.  Your saying this much already shows it.   I'd really stop while you are way behind on understanding any of this.  It is all documented... including his PMs to folks. 

 

 

 

This again shows a complete lack of understanding of overseeing a website and the history which is documented on members who come here to insult not just the members but the entire community.   Narew needs no explanation. He said it all himself.  It is all documented.   As well as all the puppet accounts attempted.   This alone is most damaging.

 

TDB is not a place to come and play out conspiracy theories or be a martyr to some cause.  You'll find 10,000,000 other websites for that.   

 

If someone comes here to share their journey, path, practice, and life experiences, ups and downs, and asks questions and gives their own insight to topics of interest... then they will likely find this site welcomes them and they might find some common ground with others.

 

I speak for the entire group Dawei, it may be 15 years from now, but when you finally step down or are replaced, we will celebrate, every one of us. 

[Aetherous]

I speak for the entire group Dawei, it may be 15 years from now, but when you finally step down or are replaced, we will celebrate, every one of us. 

 

[Brian]

I'm half-inclined to buy TDB and implement

TEIQue as a screening tool.

[Daeluin]

As someone who never tries to control others, I'd have a difficult time answering how well I'm usually able to control people. Even if I disagree completely, that could still indicate I attempt to control others, meaning I take action based on the expectation of results.

 

I rather dislike all types of tests like that, as they tend to force answers that are untrue or inevitably conflicting, painting a complete misrepresentation of reality.

[Chang]

I speak for the entire group Dawei, it may be 15 years from now, but when you finally step down or are replaced, we will celebrate, every one of us. 

 

Which group is this???????????????

 

Are you their leader??????????????

 

It would appear so if you are speaking for every one of them.

[soaring crane]

I speak for the entire group Dawei, it may be 15 years from now, but when you finally step down or are replaced, we will celebrate, every one of us. 

 

mind if I ask what your reason for being here is? 

[WIldCat]

Which group is this???????????????

 

Are you their leader??????????????

 

It would appear so if you are speaking for every one of them.

 

The mopai skype group, no, yes.

[Brian]

As someone who never tries to control others, I'd have a difficult time answering how well I'm usually able to control people. Even if I disagree completely, that could still indicate I attempt to control others, meaning I take action based on the expectation of results.

 

I rather dislike all types of tests like that, as they tend to force answers that are untrue or inevitably conflicting, painting a complete misrepresentation of reality.

Yeah, I was speaking tongue-in-cheek about the entrance exam...

[dawei]

I speak for the entire group Dawei, it may be 15 years from now, but when you finally step down or are replaced, we will celebrate, every one of us. 

 

That's actually kind of funny as I respect Mopai and would join a group if it was not so openly hostile. 

[Daeluin]

Yeah, I was speaking tongue-in-cheek about the entrance exam...

 

Yeah, I figured is was meant more humorous. Tests like these are a pet peeve, as I can never answer them truthfully, since they don't allow it.

 

I'm happy to provide others with fuel for change, but I am unwilling to presume what is right for others. We are all so beautiful and unique.

 

This seems related to the theme of this thread. I wonder why it feels OK for some people to force others towards specific actions. Isn't that bullying?

 

Seems ironic that bullies seem to think it is OK for them to push others around, but it is not OK for them to get pushed back in return. Well look... if you start pushing me around, doing things I don't like, and my family doesn't like, don't be offended if I close the door in your face. And if you insist on coming back to my door year after year, well that's just sad. Don't you have better things to do? Are you really taking care of yourself?

 

Please do take care of yourself. If taking care of yourself means bullying others, that is your choice. However just know that this usually invites someone who comes to bully you in return. Doesn't sound super healthy to me. Just a self-perpetuating cycle of violence.

[Brian]

Yeah, I figured is was meant more humorous. Tests like these are a pet peeve, as I can never answer them truthfully, since they don't allow it.

 

I'm happy to provide others with fuel for change, but I am unwilling to presume what is right for others. We are all so beautiful and unique.

 

This seems related to the theme of this thread. I wonder why it feels OK for some people to force others towards specific actions. Isn't that bullying?

 

Seems ironic that bullies seem to think it is OK for them to push others around, but it is not OK for them to get pushed back in return. Well look... if you start pushing me around, doing things I don't like, and my family doesn't like, don't be offended if I close the door in your face. And if you insist on coming back to my door year after year, well that's just sad. Don't you have better things to do? Are you really taking care of yourself?

 

Please do take care of yourself. If taking care of yourself means bullying others, that is your choice. However just know that this usually invites someone who comes to bully you in return. Doesn't sound super healthy to me. Just a self-perpetuating cycle of violence.

I hear you and appreciate this perspective. Allow me to offer another one.

 

Imagine your friend has invited the entire neighborhood to a party at his house, and has asked if you would assist -- point the way to the bathroom, keep the music going, clean up spills, restock the finger sandwiches, etc.

 

Now imagine a couple of drunks roll out of the bar down the street and wander in. They are welcome to drinks and snacks and can join the impromptu water-polo match in the pool if they'd like. Instead, one of them pisses on the carpet while the other is trying to bugger the dog.

 

You ask them to stop and they tell you to fuck off. You ask them to leave and the first pisses on your leg instead while the other shits in the pool.

 

Would you be a bully for escorting them to the door?

[zerostao]

every end of year the mopai crowd tries to disrupt the board here,,,,

yawn

[Basher]

Thank the Gods, that I've got a whole week away from work. So I won't be tempted to log on here & read all this Negative and/or Aggressive BS.

 

Ommmmmmm. :ph34r:

 

(Elvis has left the Building)

[Daeluin]

Would you be a bully for escorting them to the door?

 

Do you escort your liver to the door when it gets too imbalanced from your other organs?

[Brian]

 

Do you escort your liver to the door when it gets too imbalanced from your other organs?

No, but if my appendix burst, I would probably have it removed and the vicinity cleaned up.

[liminal_luke]

What´s Mopai?...Oh never mind...

[Marblehead]

Do you escort your liver to the door when it gets too imbalanced from your other organs?

An imbalanced liver will cause a person's death.  Pissing on my carpet would have the same effect.

[Daeluin]

No, but if my appendix burst, I would probably have it removed and the vicinity cleaned up.

 

 

An imbalanced liver will cause a person's death.  Pissing on my carpet would have the same effect.

 

Yep. Balance is a fine line.

 

Whenever there is a focal point where everything meets, like in a body, or a home, or a community, to ensure proper health requires the constructive functioning of all the components.

 

If one part begins to act up and trash the others, the entire system is going to fall apart, unless measures are taken.

 

Change is inevitable, and attachment to temporary constructs as though they are permanent is unwise, but while it is possible to keep them healthy, it makes sense to do so.

[Marblehead]

You said that so well I have nothing more to add.

[kudos100]

FWIW I believe the moderation here is pretty lax and the moderators are very tolerant.

 

Recently, someone came onto the forum and racked up a huge number of posts, ramming their political and logic based ideology down everyone's throat with no real attempt to contribute to what this forum is about, and the mods seemed amazingly patient with this person.

 

It's a similar situation with the Moi Pai crowd. Every so often a thread pops up and the Mo Pai zealots derail the thread and then cry conspiracy or some kind of vendetta. The mods tolerate a huge amount of total nonsense before stepping in.

 

I think you are lucky they let you waffle on as much as you do. 

[dayzhaze]

FWIW I believe the moderation here is pretty lax and the moderators are very tolerant.

 

Recently, someone came onto the forum and racked up a huge number of posts, ramming their political and logic based ideology down everyone's throat with no real attempt to contribute to what this forum is about, and the mods seemed amazingly patient with this person.

 

It's a similar situation with the Moi Pai crowd. Every so often a thread pops up and the Mo Pai zealots derail the thread and then cry conspiracy or some kind of vendetta. The mods tolerate a huge amount of total nonsense before stepping in.

 

I think you are lucky they let you waffle on as much as you do. 

 

Narew who was member over on neigong forum got banned here, for something he said over there. This was openly presented as the reason for his Ban. That is just one of many many examples.  There is no conspiracy as they openly admit it.

[soaring crane]

Narew who was member over on neigong forum got banned here, for something he said over there. This was openly presented as the reason for his Ban. That is just one of many many examples.  There is no conspiracy as they openly admit it.

 

just to put this sad little myth of yours to bed, here's a sampling of comments Narew made in these forums:

 

 

"A big problem is that lots of users on this forum are New Age idiots and applying any kind of serious quality control would probably mean banning majority of the members."

 

"That is just an ridiculous New Age belief."

 

"It's also a fact that Baduan Jin is a simple, lightweight system, probably made for masses of uneducated pesants"

 

"New Age stupidity."

 

"If you think otherwise, you're seriously ignorant. Many Qi Gong systems treated as special treasures by their not necessarily sensible Western practicioners are actually stuff that is practised en masse by Chinese elderly women."

 

"Baduan Jin is literally QiGong even an idiot can learn."

 

"Yes, I'm condescending to a clearly ignorant person. And it's unfortunately a typical problem with Tao Bums moderation, which seems to tolerate idiots."

 

"But still, I think that new users should be warned this is a low quality New Age forum. Perhaps some kind of special disclaimer should be made about that, in order to warn them. Maybe a change of name, like to "New Age Bums"?"

 

 

How do you expect moderators of any forum to respond to that kind of sneering, seething disrespect toward the membership?

[dayzhaze]

http://thedaobums.com/topic/36715-narew-is-suspended-for-two-weeks/


The suspension is for multiple insults against the userbase, it ends on November 10th. (2014)

-Flolfolil



http://thedaobums.com/topic/36715-narew-is-suspended-for-two-weeks/page-2#entry589203

Narew is banned.  

 

I received a link to show his feeling of TTB.

 

It seems this board is not where he wants to be anyways.

-dawei




http://thedaobums.com/topic/36715-narew-is-suspended-for-two-weeks/page-2#entry589269


So that members may make themselves aware of the reason for the ban here is a link to the thread which brought it about. http://neigongforum.com/threads/what-happened-on-tao-bums-the-ban.188/

-Chang