4bsolute Posted November 26, 2015 (edited) I come across alot of ideas of protection whenever I face groups of individuals who are spiritually awakening and getting to know their mindIt is unimportant from which direction the Self is getting approach through the mind, after a few invitations of that spiritual side of Nature (capital N, the One Nature, not earth-only nature) and because one does so from one's own personality, a certain kind of threat is experienced and the idea of protection is raisedThis threat is only experience through bias of what one does not yet want to see and/or experience, but is part of the whole. Having no concepts yet for it and not seeing that it actually is possible and plausible to live without any concepts at all, shutting it out is natural and pain is experienced.In all honesty, looking at the spiritual evolution of current mankind with the most neutral eyes possible, a minority is only interested in getting to know one's Self directly from or as it's Totality...and along my journey I have understood whyPersonality Personality is the only reason why protection is needed. Personality because one wants to achieve something, wants to improve one's Self and show off to others and all the myriads of ideas of seperation, of being unable to (...) in so many ways and needy for something external to complete oneself, participating in this entire false, but apparently necessary, game we playPersonality is so easily acquired by just looking at objects, interaction through mind via thoughts and emotions are automatically created and shape the individual.It is the standard program of a human on auto-pilot and which at one point in the evolution of the individual gets questioned and eventually, through conscious action, replacedIf there is willingness to know Truth, followed and then acted upon that impulse, the individual will know it's limitations very fast. It will understand that there is an infinite number of personal truths which s/he is constantly facing in this human life and also and most importantly having to face it's own truth based upon mostly unconsciously formed, partially consciously formed, personal beliefs.The individual eventually will realize that in order to know Truth it has to surrender it's personal ideas, for these ideas were always at War with all other individual beliefs and with a greater flow of something that sustained him or her over the years and slowly is vanishing, more pain is experienced.Eventually the individual will surrender it's personal beliefs in a moment of complete exhaustion and in that very moment something will find him or her.And that which will present itself to him or her will be so profound and so vast in power and experience of the perceived energy that all interest in further accumulating of more personal ideas, beliefs and a future lifestyle out of it, is completely discarded.All energetic layers of the individual have been shown what Truth is again.From there on the individuals knows that the uppermost protection he or she can ever have, will be the interest to Know One's Self and to Live From That Place.This can be read as the most ignorant and toxic information but in Truth (with a capitcal T, as The One Absolute) it is the highest truth that you will ever hear and know for your Self:Group-thinking is poluted. Community is poluted. Society is poluted. All ideas we have on this planet right now of co-existing with eachother are totally corrupted.They are corrupted because we do no longer see them from the Source. We see them from an individual perspective that has not yet realized it's totality and can not yet live, both as individual and as totality again. It can only live as individual for now and therefor is a complete imbalance in that very expression. Subject to change of course.The only Reality (again with a capital R, for The One Underlying and Absolute) is that there is only One.This One is both you and me at the same time. Unfortunatelly the nature of the individuals mind, coming from it's personality sees something external to itself and experiences all the lower emotions, from Human Heart downwards, where all ideas of seperation are generated from.If your spiritual understanding grows and you want to evolve into the One, when you reach your Heart, in order to proceed, you have to let go of your personality.To every Ego, surrendering the individual's personality, this sounds like the most frightening and threatening thing, I just have to remember bits of my own past before this personal exhaustion happened, but in essence it leads to the Complete opposite, to complete Creative Freedom as a self-realized, individual consciousness.The freedom to slowly but surely experience your Self as everything And this human body at the same time. With it all ideas and feelings of seperation dissolve. All energies and expressions out of it, abilities, come naturally.Did you had a struggle to walk as young human? Did you have to manipulate your energy in order to perform all the actions you do, with your body? No, you just went with the flow of the natural way of how God creates and experienced bliss in your very young years until more and more blockages from this then forming, personal mind shut it outIt is yours to understand Just this and release and evolve with the Interest to get to know your Self....I am praised in my skills to express my Self in my mothertongue, german, and I do my best here in English and I can tell you, from the joy I have to do so, to describe the complexity of the transformation happening when you reach it, allow yourself to surrender into it, I say this with full empowerement: It is impossible to descibe itWords end here and words are less and less needed. Spoken word is less and less needed and especially thoughts do no longer interest. For you have nothing to ask anymore. It's just letting the energy that was once used for thought all it's repetitions steadily calm down and be used for finer layer of existance.It is the direct way.And it has no end to it. It is the free will of the individual to approach the Self, as him- or herself, from it's mind or with the willingness of direct experience going beyond the mind and letting the Self present itself to oneself.Without effort, just surrendering and know one will constantly presented more of one's Self and only one's Self. Paradoxically in the beginning phase the most difficult for a mind due to the root and it's fear of death, idea of seperation that in Reality does not exist.There is no stage, it is a direct evolution, a very pure evolution and the ego that will appear and disappear many many times, is constantly be refined. To such a thing degree, that it can be willingly dropped and surrender into the Self, to use the individuals consciousness as a living Sakrament of the Self here in this reality and then stepped out of it and embodied the individual againThis Self is you and is me, timeless and at the same time in a time-bound formAnd it holds the only protection that there is: No protection, a condition that is so fluid and flexible that it can no longer be seen as suchIt is giving up everything to receive everything. It is living as a transcended being, from human consciousness to God consciousness, freely able to merge at any given time And also able to ascend it's human form to what all of you dream off. But not from a personal, earth-bound, human personality driven by manipulation, but from receiving everything, unfiltered from Source itself. As it.I loved to be a thief, to steal and to manipulate in so many seemingly intelligent ways. Just to stretch my personality to such a disgusting degree that I sheerly destroyed it. You already are this in so many ways. Do it and do it More. Not only bits but with passion!Search for protection, try to protect yourself and find always greater and greater enemies! Until the personal energies of this human vessel is at it's perceived end. Just to reach all of this what I am writing about here...It is reality. This understanding will be yours and deeper and deeper it goesThat is why self-realization is the only protection that is and ever will be. Love for one's Self is love for everything, regardless how it appears as one's Self again.That is the reason, the spiritualy-scientific reason that you can accept Why you want to love yourself first. Then you know yourself and what it is that you are actually loving there, then you perceive that you Have and then giving is natural because you are Full of your Self.This energy coming with this realization will show you first hand. All doubts are no more.Free from all concepts, all dislikes, all fantasies and illusion - pure and direct Reality.It is your birthright, take it Edited November 27, 2015 by 4bsolute 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johndoe2012 Posted November 27, 2015 4bsolute, I agree. Â The need for protection is a clinging to self-body-personality-space and if one feels a need for that then there possibly are fear issues, hatred towards others and so on. Â If one pervades the wholeness of your body without limitation then one is everything and there is no need for protection. Â Life eventually shows up anyway so why not give up the need for control? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4bsolute Posted November 27, 2015 (edited) 4bsolute, I agree.  The need for protection is a clinging to self-body-personality-space and if one feels a need for that then there possibly are fear issues, hatred towards others and so on.  If one pervades the wholeness of your body without limitation then one is everything and there is no need for protection.  Life eventually shows up anyway so why not give up the need for control?  It is a primordial knowing in each and everyone of us that we are the Self. But all of the layers ontop, to be so different, that we have made ourselves individual human beings, have shut out almost every ability to be in control.  With a tendecy to increase even more, as you look upon the current world  All of this is part of the whole, to rise out of it, aswell. All is still perceived as the old personal self in the past, every emotion every human interaction - but with next to no greater clinging to it anymore, it just drips off by itself - and at the same time the freedom of knowing oneself as to be so much more, through this direct experience, makes this human experience, even with all the noticably increase of suffering of ones surrounding so... unspeakably pleasant... and easy  And it never was difficult, we just artificially created it to be so difficult, through all these blockages  Get to know it Edited November 27, 2015 by 4bsolute Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted November 27, 2015  ... even with all the noticably increase of suffering of ones surrounding so... unspeakably pleasant... and easy  Well, I wouldn't call it pleasant but yes, easier to deal with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bud Jetsun Posted November 27, 2015 Mindfulness is my shield, emptyness my foundation, equanimous Love my path. Â Â Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MooNiNite Posted November 27, 2015 I prefer the buddhist approach. We need to work hard and attain awakening in this lifetime. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted November 28, 2015 Self-realisation will not protect you. I have seen some very bad things happen to to the Self-realised who failed to appehend this basic truth. Â Protection comes from practicing appropriate yamas and niyamas. Â This is fundamental. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4bsolute Posted November 28, 2015 (edited) Self-realisation will not protect you. I have seen some very bad things happen to to the Self-realised who failed to appehend this basic truth.  Protection comes from practicing appropriate yamas and niyamas.  This is fundamental.  You speak of yamas and niyamas in context of direct source energy out of which the necessity of yamas and niyamas are lateron created, as cleanse  This is not the point here  I was not writing about the ascension of linear consciousness, which can make use of yamas and niyamas, but the transcendence of the individual's consciousness and re-merging with the entire field of clear consciousness, God/Tao  Two completely different aspects. The one is a way, the other is free from ways - because it creates all ways  The one is stepping out of the experience completely and observing it all  the way you have described and MooNiNite prefers is act of participating in it  And remember it is not about good or bad, like your post implies: Self is beyond good or bad.  Linear experience is good or bad, to which the transcended consciousness will return to evolve further, because it will not hold itself in the totality, because it provides no further experience than just the totality.  An unspeakably important experience for each soul, nontheless, but it does not replace linear growth, why the soul exists or has created itself out of this totality Edited November 28, 2015 by 4bsolute Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted November 28, 2015 <snip> Â Self is beyond good or bad. Â <snip> Â But you are not... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3bob Posted November 28, 2015 4bsolute, that was some fancy stuff, and if being so no "protection" is needed, thus the title of the string or thread is an oxymoron. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4bsolute Posted November 28, 2015 (edited) 4bsolute, that was some fancy stuff, and if being so no "protection" is needed, thus the title of the string or thread is an oxymoron.  intended, as you already know  smiles  But you are not...  and exactly that very definition is subject to the perceiver only. That is the mircalous about the nature of clear consciousness. Which is not fixed to any particular location or form  it is about the point of Reality from which you define your Self as.  You are it, right now. But due to many splits, you are unable to perceive it. You can, of course, if you are a dedicated meditator and familiar with the feel of self-sacrificing your linear time here in this body for this non-linear and timeless experience  which will then add to your linear experience in unspeakable ways and clarity Edited November 28, 2015 by 4bsolute Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3bob Posted November 28, 2015 "chopping wood and carrying water" is just fine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted November 29, 2015 Chacun a son goût... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites