Do we live in the matrix?

[Taomeow]

I'm not saying anything in excess of what I said. 

 

Some folks enjoy talking to voices in their head.  Fine by me, but why not find a different opening line for that most exciting (I'm sure) conversation than my posts which have nothing to do with what they feel like talking about?..

 

The point I'm making is, "scientific evidence" accepted as gospel and "dissenting opinions" "debunked" as hogwash are very interchangeable, we don't have any semblance of history that withstands "further findings" and "new research" and "breakthrough discovery" -- none, zip, study the history of history if you doubt it.  I'm not making any other points.  I'm no specialist in carbon dating, I'm a specialist in how often they change their mind when something is "the last word of science," is all.  That's my only point of departure for this particular train of thought.  I only talk about what I, me, personally, am a specialist in with any certainty.  I'm a specialist in how unreliable our "everybody knows" is.  I've studied it all my life.  So my definition of "ridiculous" is flash-frozen science, not a fly in amber (70 million years old or a fake made yesterday -- we have to take someone's word for it in either case) but a fly in a piece of shit.  New day, different shit.  New fly, same shit.  Same fly, different shit.  Take your pick.        

 

This, too, is the matrix -- overwhelm with "nothing to hold on to except what we tell you right now."  Nevermind that a second ago they told you something different.  Nevermind that it was also the one and only true McCoy then. 

 

Give me a break.  Life sciences don't exist, it's as simple as that.

 

We are here now to make machines, not universal truths.  Why don't we stick with what we're good at and leave the rest well alone.

[voidisyinyang]

Absolutely. Where exactly is this book of yours? Thanks. 

 

my signature has my link to my website - all my books are free online - links on the site or search the title "alchemy of rainbow heart music" - and it's word searchable as a pdf - my website is set up as a free blogbook and links to my online articles, books, etc.

[voidisyinyang]

I'm not saying anything in excess of what I said. 

 

Some folks enjoy talking to voices in their head.  Fine by me, but why not find a different opening line for that most exciting (I'm sure) conversation than my posts which have nothing to do with what they feel like talking about?..

 

The point I'm making is, "scientific evidence" accepted as gospel and "dissenting opinions" "debunked" as hogwash are very interchangeable, we don't have any semblance of history that withstands "further findings" and "new research" and "breakthrough discovery" -- none, zip, study the history of history if you doubt it.  I'm not making any other points.  I'm no specialist in carbon dating, I'm a specialist in how often they change their mind when something is "the last word of science," is all.  That's my only point of departure for this particular train of thought.  I only talk about what I, me, personally, am a specialist in with any certainty.  I'm a specialist in how unreliable our "everybody knows" is.  I've studied it all my life.  So my definition of "ridiculous" is flash-frozen science, not a fly in amber (70 million years old or a fake made yesterday -- we have to take someone's word for it in either case) but a fly in a piece of shit.  New day, different shit.  New fly, same shit.  Same fly, different shit.  Take your pick.        

 

This, too, is the matrix -- overwhelm with "nothing to hold on to except what we tell you right now."  Nevermind that a second ago they told you something different.  Nevermind that it was also the one and only true McCoy then. 

 

Give me a break.  Life sciences don't exist, it's as simple as that.

 

We are here now to make machines, not universal truths.  Why don't we stick with what we're good at and leave the rest well alone.

 

Science is our current mythology - what I called based on the Strong Misanthropic Principle. There is a reason to the madness as I detail in the Actual Matrix Plan - it's called the "music logarithmic spiral" - a structural "tantric trajectory of technology" from the mathematics.

 

So there is a "convergence" of evidence - and to just latch onto wild speculations actually ignores again the covert agendas as I detail in the Actual Matrix Plan expose - of the CIA-freemason-Theosophists. I name names and give great details.

 

Science is corrupt going back to Plato indeed - but nevertheless as a process it ironically discovers and destroys its own legitimacy as it unravels.

 

For example the Nazis rejected Einstein and quantum physics - and tried to rely on alternative science - and so they lost the race to build a nuclear bomb.

 

The u.s. committed mass war crimes to scare off the Soviets - by dropping nuclear bombs on Japan - and then both the Soviets and U.S. took Nazi scientists in the attempt to win the war to dominate space, and mind control, etc.

 

So for example psychic spies was supported by CIA research because it was discovered the Soviets were relying on it successfully.

 

The covert occult side to science is based on military budgets that are controlled by the elite - but even then like on coasttocoastam you get the "alien agenda" promoted by CIA-Freemason-New Agers.

 

So actually the truth is very radical - there is multiple lines of evidence that humans are based on the Bushmen culture and  yet this is covered up and ignored.

 

People would love to believe in some ancient advanced civilizations - preferably with alien influence - because it enables the denial of how Western science as a whole is destroying the ecology and social justice of the planet.

 

So basically Western civilization is tantric because it's based on females using technology to try to protect themselves from male rape from male ejaculation addiction.

 

This is a psychophysiological problem that goes back to our primate origins - comparing bonobos to chimps for example. Female chimps use spears for hunting so they are not raped by the males bringing them meat and demanding sex.

 

All this technology stems from that deep psychophysiological problem - and unless males train in spiritual healing as was done in the Bushmen culture - then the cause of the problem is not addressed.

 

So we get instead a postmodern late-capitalist techno-feminist agenda. Anything goes. Or like that Chicago musical. The best defense against the technofeminist postmodern agenda is to flex the anus to sublimate the energy. In other words females can do whatever they want - they can destroy the planet with technofeminism as postmodern science - all based on their wild attempt to run away from males who can't control their lower bodies. FEmales can strip and run around naked if they want - the male only needs to control his lower body - and train on his own. haha.

 

This should not be an excuse to ignore the actual "objective" truths of science as much as they can be ascertained - despite the fact that the overall trajectory of science is apocalypse based on a linear time and a contained infinity through geometry.

 

My blogbook uses quantum biology as the latest science as a model we can embrace as Taoists - but even still it is a dialectical opposite extreme - science can be used as "intellectual self-defense" and so the most cutting edge science is actually the best defense. For example Noam Chomsky's latest book, "What kind of creatures are we?" - I read it the past couple days - it is an objective overview of science but he only quotes Henry Stapp on quantum consciousness - he ignores a lot of quantum consciousness research and he also dismisses the anthropological origins of language as simply "story-telling." No - it's a lot more than story-telling. To use the dismissive term "story-telling" is way off-base. But then this is an ecofeminist issue - like Elizabeth Marshall Thomas was strongly attacked for her book title "The Harmless People" - by the male anthropologists. We are talking about male scientists, psychophysiologically not able to comprehend for example why bonobo males frequently have sex yet only ejaculate if they are going to have sex for reproduction - the male scientists assume this is so the bonobo males can have the hormones stored up for confronting other males. haha. They don't know the secret of the vagus nerve internal orgasm of females - but Master Nan, Huai-chin reveals that secret. Male scientists can not control their lower bodies - but at least Robert Sapolsky has investigated this mystery and he identifies the mystery and he promotes meditation but he has not pondered that males, like females, can also have vagus nerve reproductive organ climaxes. As Gurdjieff said - we are controlled, we as modern humans, by the Kundabuffer and so as the dominant organism on Earth we are not feeding the spiritual evolution of the Moon.

 

Just as relativity and quantum physics was the best defense against the Nazis - but in reality it is the CIA-Freemason-New Age elites promoting war as the tantric trajectory of technology. So you get for example the wife of Dick Cheney backing him to no end - and the secret child sex abuse trafficking rings that the elite rely on - and in actuality this is ritual mass sacrifice occult mind control of the elite.

 

I personally have seen the big black equilateral triangle craft up close - it is a military secret propulsion craft - but that does not mean free energy is going to save us or quantum computing is going to save us, etc. Nevertheless indeed there is amazing science that the military hides but it's not from aliens or ancient civilizations as promoted on coasttocoastam - that's what they promote to cover-up the military destruction.

 

As de Broglie figured out and as is being confirmed by the cutting edge quantum science - there is a real subquantum reality that does allow time travel and precognition, etc.

[Nungali]

I guess that all speaks for itself . 

 

next thing I will be told is that Graham Hancock is 'not for profit' ..... he just wants to disseminate the truth . 

Edited December 16, 2015 by Nungali

[voidisyinyang]

I guess that all speaks for itself . 

 

next thing I will be told is that Graham Hancock is 'not for profit' ..... he just wants to disseminate the truth . 

 

You can read one of the authors of the Stargate Conspiracy responding to his criticisms of Graham Hancock - on the GH forum.

 

http://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,22350,22537#msg-22537

 

Clive Prince

 

http://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,22350,22594#msg-22594

 

both comments worth reading.

 

the book is a fascinating read and freaked out a lot of people who couldn't wrap their heads around it. haha.

[Taomeow]

Been following German and Russian work at Gobekli Tepe.  Chronic debunkers are politely referred to the appropriate feed tube on Wiki to get their fix.  Everybody else get your head outta your ass Egypt and go take a look at Turkey.

 

[Nungali]

Cool!  I would love to read the latest on that but I cant watch a vid that long. Do these people have stuff published somewhere ? 

[3bob]

Taomeow,  (and those in this thread)

 

Below are parts of a post of yours that got me to pondering more about the Taoist meaning of The One which was also mentioned earlier.   Namely the image of a mother-child relationship of the Tao to the One.  A possible context to that image is of a child that has emerged as a created and separate being. (although given nurture from its mother)  So I wonder-  is the Taoist perspective of the One along the lines of such a context?  In other words the difference to that context and what  I see is that the connection between the Tao and One is never broken, which could include the image of the "cord" never being cut, thus such a child is never truly separated from it's mother as a created and independent being on its own....and if that connection is unbreakable per the Way of Tao then it also stands that a beginning and ending of the One is not to be found via a linear view or even in a "finite" framework,  just as the beginning and end of a circle is not to be found along a circular and connected line.  Further, if we extrapolate on this idea then all beings within or under the One are also connected, although extending through myriads of permutations whereas the Tao and One could be said to be of a one-to-one connection with only one permutation or transformation - that comes and goes in either apparent or relative directions.   Add to this the idea that nothing can slip away from the One which leaves none that can be truly lost or left behind outside of the One - and thus also toTao.  Anyway that is my take.  I'm curious how you and folks in this thread see this?

 

 

""Being comes from nonbeing" -- Laozi -- but the opposite is also true, and not "once" but "always" -- "nonbeing reverts back to being."  It is an eternal pulse with no beginning or end, this part is true, but within this pulse, any "being" has a beginning, middle, and end.  A new "being" may come from nonbeing once it ends, but all things manifest are finite, only the unmanifest is infinite, the source of all being and nonbeing, all potentials -- far exceeding what has "already" manifested as "being" and will "in the long run" manifest as being.  Potentials exist within nonbeing and are not equal to manifestations.  Nonbeing is always infinitely greater, and its pull on all "being" is irresistible -- return!  As is its push on all "being" -- begin, go play!

This is the unified tao-in-stillness/tao-in-motion which is the mother of all things.  Not one half of her, not either half of her.  Both are tao, and neither is the whole tao.  The whole tao is a being-nobeing pulse of stillness-motion.  The mantra of taoism is, "the way of tao is motion and the pattern of this motion is return."  Being returns to nonbeing.  Nonbeing reverts to being".

By Taomeow

Edited December 16, 2015 by 3bob

[voidisyinyang]

Cool!  I would love to read the latest on that but I cant watch a vid that long. Do these people have stuff published somewhere ? 

 

yeah I have extensive discussion of Turkey in my book - you can word search https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjQxoPM9uDJAhVvpYMKHVyNAMUQFggdMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gearslutz.com%2Fboard%2Fattachments%2Fmoan-zone%2F279031d1330198691-retune-your-music-444-old-tuning-standard-alchemy-rainbow-heart-music.pdf&usg=AFQjCNHfPsV52pcAYbRCVTLkEboCjazrng&sig2=ka_CW2Z1EBOV7ukJfuDLlQ

 

that pdf link

 

I'll do it for you - Gobekli

 

“There’s no doubt that it was religion that brought people together here,” Schmidt

says, looking at the [Göbekli Tepe] assemblies, which predate Stonehenge by

some 6500 years. “It’s the first place that images of deities are seen.” He tells me

that earlier art depicted natural things like animals and people. But here, he points

out, there are three levels of symbolism: the human heads forming the capitals of

the stones; the animals carved on their sides; and some non-human, non-animal

symbols: an H-shaped icon and a round image with a quarter-moon shape

beneath. But, he admits, “We really have no idea” what they mean overall….Hodder interprets the imagery as symbolizing danger, wild animals and male

sexuality. “It’s a very sort of male/sexual/wild animal type of world,” he says. He

links it with Çatal Höyük “in the sense that there may well be rituals in which

male prowess was associated with killing wild animals and giving feasts. Social

status was built in that way.”

And it was rituals and feasting that led to the first temple-building and crop

domestication—not vice versa—argues another leading prehistorian. Brian

Hayden, professor of archeology at Simon Fraser University in Canada, describes

such feasting as “economically based competition,” which he says was a

fundamental characteristic of all complex hunter-gatherer societies.

 

Graham Chandler, “The Beginning of the End for Hunter-Gatherers,” Saudi Aramco World,

March/April 2009.

 

Klaus Schmidt has confirmed that the huge temple built 11,600 years ago was constructed by

hunter-gatherers – before agriculture:

 

Amazingly, the temple's builders were able to cut, shape, and transport 16-ton

stones hundreds of feet despite having no wheels or beasts of burden. The

pilgrims who came to Göbekli Tepe lived in a world without writing, metal, or

pottery; to those approaching the temple from below, its pillars must have loomed

overhead like rigid giants, the animals on the stones shivering in the firelight—

emissaries from a spiritual world that the human mind may have only begun to

envision.

“These people were foragers,” Schmidt says, people who gathered plants and

hunted wild animals. “Our picture of foragers was always just small, mobile

groups, a few dozen people. They cannot make big permanent structures, we

thought, because they must move around to follow the resources. They can't

maintain a separate class of priests and craft workers, because they can't carry

around all the extra supplies to feed them. Then here is Göbekli Tepe, and they

obviously did that.”

Discovering that hunter-gatherers had constructed Göbekli Tepe was like finding

that someone had built a 747 in a basement with an X-Acto knife. “I, my

colleagues, we all thought, What? How?” Schmidt said. Paradoxically, Göbekli Tepe appeared to be both a harbinger of the civilized world that was to come and

the last, greatest emblem of a nomadic past that was already disappearing. The

accomplishment was astonishing, but it was hard to understand how it had been

done or what it meant. “In 10 or 15 years,” Schmidt predicts, “Göbekli Tepe will

be more famous than Stonehenge. And for good reason.”

….

The construction of a massive temple by a group of foragers is evidence that

organized religion could have come before the rise of agriculture and other

aspects of civilization. It suggests that the human impulse to gather for sacred

rituals arose as humans shifted from seeing themselves as part of the natural

world to seeking mastery over it. When foragers began settling down in villages,

they unavoidably created a divide between the human realm—a fixed huddle of

homes with hundreds of inhabitants—and the dangerous land beyond the

campfire, populated by lethal beasts.

French archaeologist Jacques Cauvin believed this change in consciousness was a

“revolution of symbols,” a conceptual shift that allowed humans to imagine gods

—supernatural beings resembling humans—that existed in a universe beyond the

physical world. Schmidt sees Göbekli Tepe as evidence for Cauvin's theory. “The

animals were guardians to the spirit world,” he says. “The reliefs on the T-shaped

pillars illustrate that other world.”

 

Charles C Mann, “The Birth of Religion: We used to think that agriculture gave rise to cities and later to

writing, art and religion. Now the world's oldest temple suggests the urge to worship sparked civilization.”

National Geographic, June 2011.

 

Schmidt's thesis is simple and bold: it was the urge to worship that brought

mankind together in the very first urban conglomerations. The need to build and

maintain this temple, he says, drove the builders to seek stable food sources, like

grains and animals that could be domesticated, and then to settle down to guard

their new way of life. The temple begat the city….Religion now appears so early in civilized life—earlier than civilized life, if

Schmidt is correct—that some think it may be less a product of culture than a

cause of it, less a revelation than a genetic inheritance. The archaeologist Jacques

Cauvin once posited that “the beginning of the gods was the beginning of

agriculture,” and Göbekli may prove his case.

 

Patrick Symmes, “History in the Remaking: A temple complex in Turkey that predates even the

pyramids is rewriting the story of human evolution.” Newsweek, February 19, 2010.

 

After surveying several Neolithic sites in Europe, Hodder concluded that a

symbolic revolution had taken place in Europe as well. Because the European

sites were full of representations of death and wild animals, he believes that

prehistoric humans had attempted to overcome their fear of wild nature, and of

their own mortality, by bringing the symbols of death and the wild into their

dwellings, thus rendering the threats psychologically harmless. Only then could

they start domesticating the world outside.

 

Michael Balter, ÇATALHÖYÜK, The Seeds of Civilization, Smithsonian, Issue 05, May 2005

 

read my book for more details:

 

Jacques Cauvin, “The Symbolic Foundations of the Neolithic Revolution in the Near East,” Life in Neolithic

Farming Communities, Fundamental Issues in Archaeology, 2002, Part IV, 235-252.

[Taomeow]

Cool!  I would love to read the latest on that but I cant watch a vid that long. Do these people have stuff published somewhere ? 

 

Couldn't find anything in English.  These are pariah scientists, i.e. scientists who report on their findings as is, even though the findings contradict the currently held beliefs in the "scientific community." 

 

The findings don't allow the current paradigm to hold water.  The technology used in the erection of the complex, which is huge and has several sites excavated to date (hence the length of the video), can be one of two things only and no third:

either technology of a pre-Neolithic human civilization that was advanced enough to have technical capabilities exceeding what we have today, or

technology of a civilization that is "not us."

 

I mean, it's not what people "want to believe" who found evidence of this technology.  It's what is. 

 

So, anyone want to smirk about ancient civilizations or aliens or what-not should provide an alternative explanation with sufficient proof of its validity instead of smirking on the basis of ingrained dogma alone and no other proof.  If it holds water, I for one will be happy to accept it.  But it can't just fly in the face of facts with impunity, this nonexistent proof of facts being hogwash.  Facts are facts.  It's a fact that you can't polish a surface with precision of some stelae of Gobekli Tepe with today's technology.  You can't get an angle on a carved pillar this precise with today's technology.  And you can't have mechanically regular tool markings of this nature with today's tools.  Let alone with stone axes cave folks are supposed to have been wielding at the time it was built.  Let alone have accomplished building a construction of this magnitude in the framework of their purported social organization of the period.  

 

Something's got to give.  It's usually the facts that do.  There's just no room for them in the matrix.  

[voidisyinyang]

Couldn't find anything in English.  These are pariah scientists, i.e. scientists who report on their findings as is, even though the findings contradict the currently held beliefs in the "scientific community." 

 

The findings don't allow the current paradigm to hold water.  The technology used in the erection of the complex, which is huge and has several sites excavated to date (hence the length of the video), can be one of two things only and no third:

either technology of a pre-Neolithic human civilization that was advanced enough to have technical capabilities exceeding what we have today, or

technology of a civilization that is "not us."

 

I mean, it's not what people "want to believe" who found evidence of this technology.  It's what is. 

 

So, anyone want to smirk about ancient civilizations or aliens or what-not should provide an alternative explanation with sufficient proof of its validity instead of smirking on the basis of ingrained dogma alone and no other proof.  If it holds water, I for one will be happy to accept it.  But it can't just fly in the face of facts with impunity, this nonexistent proof of facts being hogwash.  Facts are facts.  It's a fact that you can't polish a surface with precision of some stelae of Gobekli Tepe with today's technology.  You can't get an angle on a carved pillar this precise with today's technology.  And you can't have mechanically regular tool markings of this nature with today's tools.  Let alone with stone axes cave folks are supposed to have been wielding at the time it was built.  Let alone have accomplished building a construction of this magnitude in the framework of their purported social organization of the period.  

 

Something's got to give.  It's usually the facts that do.  There's just no room for them in the matrix.  

 

This is very boring.

 

Even cable t.v. has the evidence presented to us - I just watched on Discover Science how the Egyptologists have detailed lists of the names of the craftsment who built the pyramids - whole generations of craftmens - all their lineages are documented in detail and how they built the pyramids.

 

It's also racist to claim that ancients could not build these.

 

We have a highschool student from Baalbek do an exchange at my sister's house with my nephew - he was surprised I knew about Baalbek.

 

So I asked him how he thought those megaliths were built? He said people were bigger and stronger back than.

 

That's true! the wheat monocultural diet that soon followed after these megaliths is what has destroyed the health of modern humanity - and also caused ecological destruction to spread around the world.

 

God means Bull from the Indoeuropean Gott - as Brahman also means Bull - it's this monocultural monotheistic farming regimes that actually created white people from lack of vitamin D in the wheat diet. DNA science has documented this.

 

The whites then fled to Europe as the first stunted growth farmers into Europe. My blog gives all the references and details.

 

The truth is much stranger than some boring sci-fi soap opera that just projects late capitalist sci-fi fantasies on to the past - fantasies which are racist.

 

Now consider the caral ancient megalith pyramids in Peru - I was just emailing with a Peruvian correspondent about caral.

 

 

Still, its dating of 2627 BC is beyond dispute, based as it is on carbondating reed and woven carrying bags that were found in situ. These bags were used to carry the stones that were used for the construction of the pyramids. The material is an excellent candidate for dating, thus allowing for a high precision.

 

So you gonna say extraterrestials built the megaliths of the New World also?

 

And so first of all you claim there is no evidence that ancient cultures could build these megaliths which is not true.

 

Secondly you claim therefore it must have been e.t.s but guess what - there's PLENTY of evidence that the promotion of E.t.s is a CIA-Freemasonic-theosophist New Age mass mind control agenda.

 

http://www.philipcoppens.com/starconundrum_0.html

 

Here you go - this is the dude who researched the Stargate Conspiracy book - he has an article on the CIA Freemasons promoting the E.T. alien invasion lies surrounding Egyptology.

 

http://philipcoppens.com/gobekli.html

 

His Gobekli article

 

 

Archaeologists have estimated that up to 500 persons would have been required to extract the 10- to 20-tonne pillars and move them from the quarry to their destination, a distance ranging from 100 to 500 metres. However, Schmidt actually believes that maintaining the community of builders was the real reason behind why our ancestors “invented” agriculture: they began to cultivate the wild grasses on the hills to sustain this sedentary population. In short, he believes that “religion motivated people to take up farming”.

 

And so we can see how religion was the start of the end of humanity. haha.

 

 

Schmidt argues that the local landscape began to change around that time: as the trees were chopped down, the soil began to lose its fertility; the area became arid and bare, and the people were forced to move elsewhere.

 

Indeed I give the detailed evidence of how already early monocultural wheat farming created ecological crises - and the pastoralists were fleeing the destruction of farming in Western Asia - and so there has been an ancient farming and pastoralist dynamic of destruction in that region.

[Nungali]

Couldn't find anything in English.  These are pariah scientists, i.e. scientists who report on their findings as is, even though the findings contradict the currently held beliefs in the "scientific community." 

 

Oh well, thanks for looking anyway. 

 

 

The findings don't allow the current paradigm to hold water.  The technology used in the erection of the complex, which is huge and has several sites excavated to date (hence the length of the video), can be one of two things only and no third:

either technology of a pre-Neolithic human civilization that was advanced enough to have technical capabilities exceeding what we have today, or

technology of a civilization that is "not us."

 

I mean, it's not what people "want to believe" who found evidence of this technology.  It's what is. 

 

So, anyone want to smirk about ancient civilizations or aliens or what-not should provide an alternative explanation with sufficient proof of its validity instead of smirking on the basis of ingrained dogma alone and no other proof.  If it holds water, I for one will be happy to accept it.  But it can't just fly in the face of facts with impunity, this nonexistent proof of facts being hogwash.  Facts are facts.  It's a fact that you can't polish a surface with precision of some stelae of Gobekli Tepe with today's technology.  You can't get an angle on a carved pillar this precise with today's technology.  And you can't have mechanically regular tool markings of this nature with today's tools.

 

This is the bit I am unfamiliar  with ( the last three sentences )  and would like to see the research on .  Unfortunately, without the details I cant check it out  

 

 

  Let alone with stone axes cave folks are supposed to have been wielding at the time it was built.  Let alone have accomplished building a construction of this magnitude in the framework of their purported social organization of the period. 

 

That was the surprise, the technical and social organisation possible.  Personally, I think it must have been there as base to develop further, otherwise one has to postulate that the  more complex and vast building explosion of the early Egyptian period was accompanied by an 'overnight'  developed ability of social organisation.  I think it was an earlier ability that was built upon. 

 

Something's got to give.  It's usually the facts that do.  There's just no room for them in the matrix.  

 

 

Well, I think it is giving, right from the start of GT discovery, archaeologists were declaring this discovery is going to change and is changing the way we understand  the social organisations and technical abilities of pre agricultural societies . 

[voidisyinyang]

To maintain our present system of nation-states ruled by artificial laws enforced by violence, extraordinary measures are taken to confuse and baffle, ‘brainwash’ the public to discredit and deny these innate natural human ‘psychic’ abilities with ‘smokescreens’ such as promoting the ‘psychedelic’ UFO/ET issue, the grain alcohol beverage industry, prescription mood drugs, etc.’

http://philipcoppens.com/starconundrum_react.html

[Nungali]

A  CIA-Freemasonic-theosophist New Age  conspiracy now  ?  

[voidisyinyang]

A  CIA-Freemasonic-theosophist New Age  conspiracy now  ?  

I've posted several links - but you choose "willful ignorance." http://philipcoppens.com/gulfbreeze6.html

 

What is at the bottom of this story? At its most basic level, it shows that certain NSA operatives were dabbling with alien-Christian eschatology – and went AWOL as a consequence. But is that all there is to it? We only have Davis’ word and his interpretation for it, but he does suggest that they may have been part of an experiment – as some observers noted at the time when their story hit the press.

http://philipcoppens.com/starconundrum_react.html

 

My Actual Matrix Plan expose link again:

 

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_matrix43.htm

Edited December 16, 2015 by conspirachi

[Nungali]

So a question is wilful ignorance now is it ? 

 

Not a good advert for you or your 'book / blog'  methinks .  

 

 

(And I will tell you what else is not a good advert for your blog; I had a quick look at it and focused on something that looked familiar ... it was totally wrong totally  ... and I immediately lost interest . )

Edited December 16, 2015 by Nungali

[Taomeow]

Taomeow,  (and those in this thread)

 

Below are parts of a post of yours that got me to pondering more about the Taoist meaning of The One which was also mentioned earlier.   Namely the image of a mother-child relationship of the Tao to the One.  A possible context to that image is of a child that has emerged as a created and separate being. (although given nurture from its mother)  So I wonder-  is the Taoist perspective of the One along the lines of such a context?  In other words the difference to that context and what  I see is that the connection between the Tao and One is never broken, which could include the image of the "cord" never being cut, thus such a child is never truly separated from it's mother as a created and independent being on its own....and if that connection is unbreakable per the Way of Tao then it also stands that a beginning and ending of the One is not to be found via a linear view or even in a "finite" framework,  just as the beginning and end of a circle is not to be found along a circular and connected line.  Further, if we extrapolate on this idea then all beings within or under the One are also connected, although extending through myriads of permutations whereas the Tao and One could be said to be of a one-to-one connection with only one permutation or transformation - that comes and goes in either apparent or relative directions.   Add to this the idea that nothing can slip away from the One which leaves none that can be truly lost or left behind outside of the One - and thus also toTao.  Anyway that is my take.  I'm curious how you and folks in this thread see this?

 

 

""Being comes from nonbeing" -- Laozi -- but the opposite is also true, and not "once" but "always" -- "nonbeing reverts back to being."  It is an eternal pulse with no beginning or end, this part is true, but within this pulse, any "being" has a beginning, middle, and end.  A new "being" may come from nonbeing once it ends, but all things manifest are finite, only the unmanifest is infinite, the source of all being and nonbeing, all potentials -- far exceeding what has "already" manifested as "being" and will "in the long run" manifest as being.  Potentials exist within nonbeing and are not equal to manifestations.  Nonbeing is always infinitely greater, and its pull on all "being" is irresistible -- return!  As is its push on all "being" -- begin, go play!

 

This is the unified tao-in-stillness/tao-in-motion which is the mother of all things.  Not one half of her, not either half of her.  Both are tao, and neither is the whole tao.  The whole tao is a being-nobeing pulse of stillness-motion.  The mantra of taoism is, "the way of tao is motion and the pattern of this motion is return."  Being returns to nonbeing.  Nonbeing reverts to being".

By Taomeow

 

Yes, nothing is fully "disconnected" -- it's a matter of degrees.  Take your metaphor of the umbilical cord, e.g., into real-life context.  In the Western medical tradition it is cut immediately, as soon as the baby is born.  In the tribal cultures still adhering to the traditional way (vanishingly few of them), it is never cut.  It gradually dries up -- takes about a week -- and falls off, or is broken off by hand like a dry twig when it's already completed its purpose.  The implications of the difference in these practices are vast. 

 

The tribes that don't cut the cord seem to "not cut the cord" to all of their ancestry -- perhaps all the way to tao, who knows.  An individual's developmental history thus embodies (not as an idea in the head, but as a knowledge in the very cells of the body, nerves, muscles, blood) the timing for the connection to be strong, to be weak, to be just a memory -- but they are never cut off abruptly from the memory of where they come from.  So they remember who they are a lot better.  The term used by an African tribe (e.g.) that practices this non-forceful physical disconnection that does not sever the spiritual-somatosensory connection is M'boga, "ancestors, the unbroken connection of 'me the effect' to 'them the cause.' "  So the first reaction of a member of this tribe pondering the Western ways is to ask, "Why are you so disrespectful to your M'boga?.."

 

(I know why.  Because our M'boga screwed up something horrible.  Also because this-here culture is shaped by Hollywood, not by traditional wisdom, and Hollywood hasn't offered a single movie in many decades where a mother was present and good.  She is either evil, ridiculous, clueless, inadequate, heartless, dumb, meddling, you name it -- or if she's good and loving, she isn't there, she's dead, replaced by the evil stepmother, like in all those "for children" brainwashes known as fairy tales.  Started long before Hollywood though -- the grim Grimm brothers et al...  Our idea of the mother figure -- our culture's  blueprint for how to relate to her and how to be her.)

 

So, taoists who are into philosophy (I'm not one of them) could answer your question better, or at least more philosophically, abstractly, than I can.  My take is, it doesn't matter until it is practiced.  Does not matter what we "think" about "we're all one" or "eternal infinite unchanging" or tao or any of that.  Timing is everything.  A baby cut away and carried away from the mother does not know any of that.  She only knows what she is living right now -- that she is hurt, alone, and unloved.  The world takes it from there.

 

Philosophy that comes later can't mend it.  The only way to mend it is to embody tao to your own child -- but no one can who doesn't have the blueprint of how because of lack of personal experience, direct exposure, in her (and his) developmental history.

 

Taoism tries though.  Tries to provide such blueprint.  I don't know if it can succeed.  I know we're done for if nothing succeeds.  Even if we reincarnate into some future perfection.  Timing is everything.  Future perfection is useless even if it's real.  Everything that is done, is done once and forever, it's a "time capsule" (to use the term from a book I'm reading) that is not connected to a future "time capsule" -- yes they're both within tao, but they don't help each other live their respective "nows" anymore than two random distant points of the circle do.  Yes they are part of the same infinite circle.  No, it doesn't matter unless they act it, do it, live it.  Weird, huh?     

[Nungali]

trying to find pics of the GT stones with machine marks  , no success but found this in Siberia ! 

 

(along with this rad article http://bump.ru/page/adaptive/id5250/blog/2301151/   ... Russian site but in English ! ) 

 

 

 

[Nungali]

but now I am told that pic is photo shopped  and the original is  in a national park in USA   ( the other pics of the 'wall' , I checked with some  photos off that site where more of the structure can be seen in geological perspective. Looks natural to me ... and the 'cave passage' looks like a rock feature I had in a back yard where I used to live (only more weathered )  . 

 

Now this Siberian site is starting to look faked. 

Edited December 16, 2015 by Nungali

[Nungali]

Sometimes I dont know why I even bother trying to comprehend what these internuts are on about 

 

a lot of it is downright dishonesty in some stupid effort to get their silly ideas and theories accepted .... and I get called closed minded !  

 

or maybe I am just pissed off that I forgot to  right click on that photo up there and track it 

 

'ancient Siberian site' my arse !  

 

 

 

[voidisyinyang]

So a question is wilful ignorance now is it ? 

 

Not a good advert for you or your 'book / blog'  methinks .  

 

 

(And I will tell you what else is not a good advert for your blog; I had a quick look at it and focused on something that looked familiar ... it was totally wrong totally  ... and I immediately lost interest . )

 

advertising is 100% tax deductible.

 

I'm not selling anything.

 

as I said - I already posted the links.

 

What you did is respond to just one thing I said and ignored the other things.

 

that's called quoting out of context.

 

If you thing something I posted is "totally wrong" - then how about some evidence.

 

Just saying something is "totally wrong" is completely vapid on its own.

 

Also you never responded to the Bushmen "correction" that I provided you.

 

Another example of "willful ignorance" on your part.

 

You could have looked up the information if you had been sincerely interested in it.

 

Instead you claimed I had "forgotten" the Australian Aborigines. haha.

 

What evidence do you have for that claim that I forgot them?

 

An accusation without evidence is a false accusation.

 

But still I appreciate you exposing the fake photo of some E.T. ancient alien claim.

 

Kudos for that.

[Nungali]

advertising is 100% tax deductible.

 

I'm not selling anything.

 

as I said - I already posted the links.

 

What you did is respond to just one thing I said and ignored the other things.

 

that's called quoting out of context.

 

If you thing something I posted is "totally wrong" - then how about some evidence.

 

 

A diagram ( which I am not allowed to copy and post 'on this community' ) of the Supernal triad of the Tree of Life, removed from the rest of the Tree with the caption under it " The Cosmic Christ' 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just saying something is "totally wrong" is completely vapid on its own.

 

Just posting something out of context and wrongly labeling it and assuming it fits the  confused narrative seems vapid to me . 

 

 

Also you never responded to the Bushmen "correction" that I provided you. 

 

I am still researching it . 

 

 

Another example of "willful ignorance" on your part.

 

So, seeking further evidence and researching something aside from your evidence supplied is wilful ignorance now is it ? 

 

 

You could have looked up the information if you had been sincerely interested in it.

 

I  am  looking . 

 

Instead you claimed I had "forgotten" the Australian Aborigines. haha.

 

I did ?    Direct  quote thanks   Otherwise it looks like you yourself are not reading the  actual words written and are jumping to wrong conclusions 

 

 

What evidence do you have for that claim that I forgot them?

 

What evidence do you have  for that claim  ^  ? 

 

 

An accusation without evidence is a false accusation.

 

Assuming what is written without actually paying attention to the words  creates said 'accusation' . 

 

 

But still I appreciate you exposing the fake photo of some E.T. ancient alien claim.

 

I said it was an ET claim ?    I missed that.  The site seems to be claiming some ancient technology from a past civilisation .

 

"  the blocks used are undoubtedly the largest ever worked by human hands. " 

 

I think your 'enthusiasm' for certain subjects is clouding your analytical faculties . 

 

 

Kudos for that.

 

I am not after any praise or honour thanks all the same . 

Edited December 16, 2015 by Nungali

[voidisyinyang]

o.k. - your 2 mins and 17 seconds on my blog - well here is my recommendation -

 

first of all I never typed "Cosmic Christ" or any caption to that image - it is part of the image.

 

Secondly you right click the image, copy the url, paste it and go to the link and then you correct the source of the image. Post your comment correct at the source of the image.

 

Thirdly if you disagree with the image itself then the image is not going to have any correct context with the rest of the blog in your terms is it?

 

haha.

 

That's called a "false framework" of debate - it's like debating war by one side saying they want to escalate and the other side saying that we've made too many errors - yet no one pointing out that war is fundamentally wrong.

 

So you disagree with the framework of that image which was created by its source.

 

What I did is I cut your disagreement and I pasted it into the search engine and I added images to see if that same image would come up - this is what I got:

 

 

 

Trinity Symbol: The Tree of Life starts with a Triad

From this primordial triangle proceed all of the other figures, shapes, forms, all other numbers, the magic of manifestation.

 

http://artof4elements.com/entry/40/spiral-of-life

 

So you said it's "wrong" as if you're stating a fundamental fact. I've now provided evidence - based simply on searching your assertion - of a contrary claim.

 

I'm really not interesting in arguing with you. You can debate that site also. haha.

 

Everyone has their worldviews - I'm just providing information.

 

My "meme" is all human cultures use the 1-4-5 music intervals, the secret of alchemy.

 

It's pretty simple and I build up from there.

 

You obviously have a different worldview. Words don't usually change worldviews but I think images are more powerful.

 

I appreciate your feedback - I find that fascinating that someone would get hung up over some intricacy of some religious viewpoint that arose out of Western monocultural farming which archaeology has proven to have created ecological crisis already 10,000 years ago! haha.

 

The Kabbalah is a reform religion - and I'm not hung up on its intricacies.

 

I would say the problem with the Western worldview is it is too easily hung up on superficial issues without getting to the "rotten root."

 

So I searched Rene Guenon on Kabbalah because his research does a better job at getting to the root of things.

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&ved=0ahUKEwiav9ibyuHJAhUGVhQKHclkBSYQFggpMAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.worldwisdom.com%2Fpublic%2Fviewpdf%2Fdefault.aspx%3Farticle-title%3DKabbalah%2520-%2520from%2520Essential%2520Guenon.pdf&usg=AFQjCNFuoQCJ2RnVrTIE_DzJQlm4A78agg&sig2=r17OcOknN2Jw6eaR2w35vQ&bvm=bv.110151844,d.d24&cad=rja

 

pdf - Rene Guenon's essay on Kabbalah

 

Now if you had spent a little more time on my blogbook you may have noticed my use of the tome "Christ in Egypt."

 

This led me to search kabbalah "Christ in Egypt" and I got a hit of a discussion that I was actually part of....

 

http://freethoughtnation.com/garden-of-eden-originally-a-pygmy-myth/

 

Anyway - the thing I ask you to consider in terms of my blogbook is that the kabbalah is based on symmetric gematria which is actually a Hellenistic attribution. And so the Pythagorean Tetrad influence on the Tree of Life again does not get at the "rotten root" since it's already derived from the Platonic symmetric logic gematria.

 

I expose this fake symmetric gematria logic in my "Alchemy of Rainbow Heart Music" book.

 

This Freemasonic gematria left-brain phonetic ritual sacrifice science was first used in the
Babylonian Zoroastrian, Egyptian, Vedic and Hellenistic Solar Dynasty technology....That shift from lunar silver matrifocal water energy to iron-solar patriarchy represents the
shift from a forest auditory culture to a visual savannah-agriculture relying on gematria
(phonetic-number symmetry) for Freemasonic technology....

 

The Solar Dynasty extended from West Asia into the Levant (meaning sun-riser) and then on into
Europe. The Jewish language was changed with Hellenization of Western Asia from Alexander
the Great in the third century BCE, creating Hellenized Aramaic – and from this came the rise of
gematria as the secret of Judaism and a new focus on antisemitism. Alexander had taken over
the Persian empire from where Aramaic came from, used originally as the Assyrian language but
continued for commercial trade and Aramaic was the vernacular language while Hebrew is the
priestly language.
The key to gematria is equidistant spacing of the letters with the numbers. This emphasis
is even explicit in today’s obsession with “the number code” in the Bible — all that fake Western
magic promoted on (CIA) cable t.v. (for example the History channel's series “Decoding the Past”). What gets lost in all this is the Pythagorean Theorem and its connection to the Law of
Pythagoras — the diverging Harmonic Series. Symmetric logarithmic gematria was from the
Greek Phoenician combination with Hebrew as Aramaic – which also signified the Levant (Sun-
Riser) as the misogynistic Essene (Jesus) cult over the earlier matrifocal lunar cultures.
Nevertheless it seems that the Hebrew gematria known to us now (i.e., assigning
1-9, 10-90, 100-900 to the letters) came from the Greeks…. According to Diringer
(Story Aleph Beth 136), one of the distinctive differences between Early Hebrew
(which is very much like Phoenician) and Square Hebrew (which is influenced by
and perhaps derived from Aramaic) is the presence of final forms in the latter, so
this form of gematria cannot have been used before Square Hebrew.”631

 

631 John Opsopaus, “Some Notes on the History of Isopsephia (Gematria),” The Biblioteca Arcana , 1995.

[voidisyinyang]

Right-brain resonance connects the Tree of Knowledge (the mind) with the Tree of Life (the womb-belly) through the Serpent (the kundalini) and God is the Heart-Mind as the foundation for each life.

 

God (through the patriarchal priest-hood) separated the tree of life from the tree of knowledge so that humans would be unaware of the secret power of sex.

 

The priest-hood by focusing on the source of the I-thought eventually resonate their consciousness all the way back to it's source in the Heart-Mind and the heart literally stops for over 15 minutes.

 

This is called "cutting the knot" for "eternal liberation" detailed in the book "Talks with Ramana Maharshi" -- a teacher of the ancient Brahmin priest-hood.

 

In Egypt the promoter of monotheism -- Ankenhaton and his queen Nerfititi -- the king stated outright (in a recent academic book it's documented):

 

"I have never known my non-existence."

 

This is the same as the "all seeing eye" of the UnDead Brahmin teaches.

 

So after the heart-mind was transcended to create the UnDead Priesthood there was a reversal of the Harmony of Heaven and Earth and left-brain logic separated the Tree of Knowledge from the Tree of Life using right-hand iron-based technology.

 

Eve -- instead of being the secret source of eternal sex power became Eve (as the corner of a square) to be controlled for materialistic power. Once the UnDead Awareness is achieved by "cutting the knot" then the priest is beyond all good and evil.

 

In Africa this became the Freemasonic BLACKSMITH caste which can shapeshift into crocodiles (Set -- the "evil" god of Egypt) which became the "power Set Axiom" (the official name for the square root of two, the first math equation to square the circle used to find the center of the chariot wheels).

 

The book "Iron, Gender and Power" is a recent academic text on Africa also see "In the Eyes of the Night: Witchcraft among the senegalese" -- another academic ivy-league anthropologist documenting shape-shifting reptilian blacksmiths as the most important magic.

 

The iron-based technology of patriarchal pastoralism and iron-based rectilinear plowing is the most ancient form of oppression -- when the Bantu-Koi cultures then took over the Mbuti-Baka-!Kung-San cultures of matrifocal hunter-gatherers.

 

In Sumeria the original Garden of Eden myth has the Snake as goodness with Eve in charge.

 

The letter "A" is actually the upside bulls-head from Sumerian ideograms with Omega as also a bulls-head. The bull being used for the first rectilinear iron-plow farming. See the recent academic book "Women of the Hoe" for documentation of the ancient matrifocal horticulture (without the rectilinear iron-based plowing).

 

God comes from the Indo-European word "Gott" meaning Bull for farming fertility rites of the ancient Solar Dynasty kings. Even scholar Karen Armstrong's book "The History of God" does not give the etymology of the word -- that's how brainwashed everyone is!!

 

Those kings, as detailed in professor David Gordon White's new sacred sex book "Kiss of the Yogini" ruled Western Asia through

 

tantric sex with a shamanic goddess (using the techniques I detailed above).

 

Have a nice day people.

 

drew hempel, M.A.

 

http://tbknews.blogspot.com/2006/06/this-stinkin-earth.html

 

I posted that ten years ago....

[Nungali]

whatever ... your quote  about Christ consciousness 

 

 

Trinity Symbol: The Tree of Life starts with a Triad

From this primordial triangle proceed all of the other figures, shapes, forms, all other numbers, the magic of manifestation.

 

doesnt mention christ.  It talks about 'a son of the father'  which actually does not manifest until Tiphareth, half way down and central to the ToL ... its a vertical extension down the middle pillar ... the same way as 'the daughter' is at the bottom and last sphere of 'material creation' - malkuth . 

 

If you are going to blame the sources of what you cribbed and pasted together to make a blog and accept no responsibility for their content  or accuracy .....  well  ......    

 

and if you call this a dynasty :   " This Freemasonic gematria left-brain phonetic ritual sacrifice science was first used in the

Babylonian Zoroastrian, Egyptian, Vedic and Hellenistic Solar Dynasty technology... "

 

I think you better look up the meaning of 'dynasty'   .... unless you claim it is some ancient world encompassing family . The original split that caused the Zoroastrian / Vedic cultural separation is enough to see they had radically differing viewpoints.