clear semen

[Sunya]

i'm reading in Pillars of Bliss, that after a while of being celibate and drawing the sexual energy up, if you ejaculate your semen will be clear..

 

so i'm wondering, whatif you want to have kids down the road? is it possible to reverse the process ?

 

have you guys thought about this

[Mal]

[Cameron]

Re-copied this post from my 100 days journal,

 

Regarding 100 days,

 

Sean Denty told me something that I will put into practice and also might be useful to others. If I have "an accident" don't start from the beginning but pick up where I left off.

 

So let's say I am at day 20 and then have a wet dream. I would then say in my 100 days journal "had an accident" I would not count that day and then I would start over the next day at 21.

 

This also might be useful to people in realationships that are interested in doing 100 days with Kunlun. Instead of freaking out when your beautiful wife wants to make love on the terrace..or on the floor in the bathroom or whatever..you go ahead and do your sexual shaman dance then don't count that day but then start from the next day.

 

This helps take the pressure off!

[sunshine]

This helps take the pressure off!

 

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm... I wonder why you take what Sean is saying and apply it to your now practiced "system"? Maybe the rules are different??? We have a clear physical sign when our "period" is over (which as you know I am not supposed to talk about) and each person is different regarding actually finishing the "120 days that are not 120 days"...

 

I personally feel how you are supposed to count only your teacher is meant to be the last word

 

but hey. That is just me...

 

 

Harry

[Cameron]

Huh?

 

Sean D told me this AT THE KUNLUN SEMINAR and reccomended that's how I do it. He knows I am doing Kunlun and not Lei Shan Dao.

 

As far as Max he said after you recieve transmission it's all good so I am guessing he is fine with Sean D's advice, how it is written in the book or however you want to do it!

[sunshine]

Well yes. Sean recommended but you do it!

 

what counts for us might simply not count for you because the rules and principles might be completely different...

 

If it eases your mind though, fine

 

 

Harry

[Cameron]

Eases my mind?

 

We arent speaking the same language.

 

100 days is hard. If you have a penis you know going 100 days without having happy juice come out of it is hard stuff.

 

What Sean described to me is a way to look at the 100 days process in a realistic, balanced manner that can be practiced without self hatred and guilt being involved.

 

Like.."Oh My God! I went 50 days and ejaculated! I ruined everything! I am such a failure!"

 

This is not the way to go. Right?

 

So, I will pick up the next day where I left off like Sean said.

 

Hey, it's possible I might go 100 days straight no problem. Just for the average guy in a realationship practicing Kunlun from the book I think this way is more balanced.

[宁]

I think one really needs to understand what the heck he/she is practicing. You need a lot to know. This is why Tao is supossedly the easiest way. Knowing what to do, how to do it, why to do it, when to do it, and how to check up on what you did.

I'm with Bruce Lee when he says: There is only one way of doing things. It's because of the way we are built. But the circumstances of our life and opportunities... they allow or disallow us different steps in cultivating the different ingredients of the Dan. Also, there is an optimisation process that needs to be started and completed, that deals with bringing the body-mind to a specific harmonic configuration. Then you start merging.

And every step of the way you need to know where you are on the road you are crossing. To do that you need clear markings, clear signs. The problem is people forget we must return to the natural way, to become like a child, by all means and implications. The knowledge is not gathered in our heads, but embodied in our body and mind, and it is the tool of this acheivement.

 

[mr.regular]

Well, this is very interesting to me.

 

I don't know all of the terms being used here, but I've been trying extremely hard to practice continence, and I've attributed to that, among other things, this Kundalini arousal.

 

You know, C.G. Jung refers to "canalization of libido," meaning making one's psychic energy go where one wants it to go. Of course Jung studied eastern philosophy as well as classical Greco-Roman mystery religion.

 

If I understand this, it is the inversion of the libido, causing one's interest, intentions, psychic energies to be reoriented upward, instead of being used to create an external object and spilling it back to the dust from which man springs.

 

That seems one hell of a good idea.

 

mr

[Mantra68]

I'm with Bruce Lee when he says: There is only one way of doing things. It's because of the way we are built. But the circumstances of our life and opportunities... they allow or disallow us different steps in cultivating the different ingredients of the Dan. Also, there is an optimisation process that needs to be started and completed, that deals with bringing the body-mind to a specific harmonic configuration. Then you start merging.

And every step of the way you need to know where you are on the road you are crossing. To do that you need clear markings, clear signs. The problem is people forget we must return to the natural way, to become like a child, by all means and implications. The knowledge is not gathered in our heads, but embodied in our body and mind, and it is the tool of this acheivement.

If you can do the hundred days then great! If not, then that is OK too. I did it and I am glad I did because it definitely helped me get to a new level with my practice, but you don't HAVE to do it. It is just a suggestion.

 

The most important thing is to learn to value your essence. Don't go flinging it around like you're doing a Jackson Pollock painting.

 

Your Bruce Lee quote describes exactly the experience of Kunlun. Nice.

[gendao]

Sean Denty told me something that I will put into practice and also might be useful to others. If I have "an accident" don't start from the beginning but pick up where I left off.

 

So let's say I am at day 20 and then have a wet dream. I would then say in my 100 days journal "had an accident" I would not count that day and then I would start over the next day at 21.

How is that different than taking no "vow" at all then?

 

I'm guessing there is nothing magical about 100 days precisely, but it may just be a ballpark figure used to approximate an amount of activation energy generally needed (when built from scratch). Of course, if Max directly transmits enough activation energy to you, you may not really need to "build up this charge" yourself...

[Cameron]

What?

 

I don't understand your question.

 

I am doing 100 days but if I have an accident won't count that day but start counting right where I left off the following day.

 

Don't make questions and problems where none exist Vortex.

 

You pal,

 

Cameron

 

ps. Are you staying at a hotel in Phoenix? I probably have room for 4 people to stay at my place if they want to crash on the floor in sleeping bags..so far Yoda and his friend are staying so room for 2 more..unless you want comfort and privacy in which case go with a hotel!

[三江源]

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Edited April 18, 2015 by 三江源

[Cameron]

hehe...

 

The way Cameron is doing it if I can go 100 days straight great.

 

If I have a mishap I won't want to jump off my balcony to off my miserable failure of a cultivator existence.

 

OK?!

[mantis]

what happened to not posting for November lol

[Cameron]

Stop asking me questions every day and I will stop posting.

[Mal]

The way Cameron is doing it if I can go 100 days straight great.

If I have a mishap I won't want to jump off my balcony to off my miserable failure of a cultivator existence.

OK?!

 

More than o.k. I would think it's VITAL not to have a feeling of "failure" As long as you don't cheat too much e.g. Taking 200 actual days to get to your 100 days of retention

 

Interestingly enough my retention was going better before my self imposed birthday start deadline. It was just happening naturally. Currently what's happening is I chose to end with a big explosion

 

My way of thinking about this, I'll try the 100 days, perhaps I'll make it perhaps I won't but if I'm still actually still doing the practice next year I will want to try and see Chris when he travels to Aus. Then I can get the transmission so it won't matter (correct?). If this was not on the cards the 100 days would be more important to me. Really I don't care what kunlun does, I just like sitting afterwards

 

You (Cam) already have the transmission, why bother to retain for 100, you might be better of at the level 2 schedule?

 

what happened to not posting for November lol

 

Stop asking me questions every day and I will stop posting.

 

That is NO excuse

 

Anyhow to redirect. Does this practice (or similar) stop sperm production? Can it be restarted to make a baby?

[Cameron]

So let me get this straight..

 

Everyone WANTS me to start ejaculating?

 

Where is Smile and his orthodox ways when you need him?

[Mal]

Everyone WANTS me to start ejaculating?

 

Do what you will

 

Seriously though, I was just wondering the usefulness of you personally practicing retention. Except for using it as a killer pick up line

 

Very basically I though the purpose of the 100 days retention was to reach a base level of.. well "power" Once that base level of "power" is reached like a critical mass that "power" willl activate and can then clean/fix/heal/whatever your body requires. As a side effect of this activation phenomena can manifest and they should be ignored.

 

But you have already had many things happen, due to the transmission. Why build more "power" when it's already working? In the book once people reached the 100days they scale back on the retention.

 

I think I must be misunderstanding this. "Power" is not my thing. I just enjoy sitting around.

Edited November 6, 2007 by Mal

[Cameron]

Alright here is a beginner attempting to explain advanced stuff.

 

If your interested in cultivation, I don't think you should contemplate doing sexual yoga until your channels are opened.

 

I don't care how much you think you got or whatever if your channels arent open your not there yet.

 

If I was already in a realationship I would say it would be balanced to just have sex without any sort of "jing manipulation" once a week or whatever.

 

I am not already in a realationship, I am single. And my channels are definetly not open. Quite the opposite..my channels are very, very blocked.

 

So..the 100 days is me saying to the Universe.."I want to committ to 100 days of celibacy and practice to help open my channels up..if after 100 days..it feels time to get a woman then I will look for a woman..and maybe at that point I can either start "doing stuff" with sexual energy(bring it up to the crown as Max teaches) or remain celibate..I don't know until that point what the way to go is.

 

When you start experiencing the higher dimensions the idea to want to get "get laid" is so secondary to developing yourself. It's basically reduntant.

 

Now, I love woman and would love to find a nice partner to cultivate with but only if it is in harmony.

 

Or more likely, if I really want woman after 100 days..I will just go out to clubs once a week and pick up a woman..no strings attached. But right now that just clearly isn't the priority for me.

[Mal]

[Cameron]

I would say "pulling energy up your spine" is the wrong approach.

 

Emptiness meditation..emptiness meditation..emptiness meditation..emptiness meditation..

[Mal]

I would say "pulling energy up your spine" is the wrong approach.

Emptiness meditation..emptiness meditation..emptiness meditation..emptiness meditation..

 

Fair enough......

 

Although if you want to have sex and not ejaculate I think Dr Lin's Anal Breathing method is the way to go.

[Mantra68]

If you ejaculate during your 100 day attempt, you need to start over. It takes discipline.

 

We have been very open and soft in our approach to teaching these ancient secret methods, but I think it is time for some good 'ol traditional discipline. Max went through hell to learn the things he is teaching. I too have had my share. My intuition is telling me that it is time to tighten the belt a bit.

 

After you do your 100 days it is important to not ejack on a regular basis. Injaculating is advised for most climaxes and then ejaculating once a month or so.

 

I have never heard of this method preventing the production of sperm.

Edited November 6, 2007 by Mantra68

[Cameron]

Well...I guess I really need to not watch porn then

 

Fair enough......

 

Although if you want to have sex and not ejaculate I think Dr Lin's Anal Breathing method is the way to go.

 

 

I think what Max teaches is fine but only after 100 days.

 

To start pulling energy up to your crown(whether by yourself or partner) while your channels are blocked, your emotions are negative, your realationships in the world are chaotic, your work and lively hood is not established, your dark side is fully revealing itself to make friends with you, your external realationships with friends and family are dissolving faster than you can think about and new friends and realationships are being established.

 

To then go and clench your but and pull your pereneum and draw jing up to your head.

 

Yeah..well...do I really need to explain my reasoning farther?

 

THAT SAID...if you are one of the few people blessed with a harmonious realationship on this planet, your emotions and realationship to the Tao is somewhat harmonious...well...MORE POWER TO YOU.