thelerner Posted February 17, 2008 When his observation of original nature is no more. Where lies the source and power of a word? The original source of the pot is not the clay but in the thought of its creation by the potter. The source and power of a word is not its sound or meaning it is the intent the speaker uses it for. Michael I look up and stare at the sky and stars in awe. Does anything gaze back at me? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wayfarer64 Posted February 17, 2008 The original source of the pot is not the clay but in the thought of its creation by the potter. The source and power of a word is not its sound or meaning it is the intent the speaker uses it for. Michael I look up and stare at the sky and stars in awe. Does anything gaze back at me? The same someone who gazes at stars seeks within... Is there any different intent then wonder and awe's power to have their own quest to be satisfied? (Answers are sought through mist and foggy Questions, even when those questions carry wieght, the power of wonder and awe - as it were - is a seminal force... is that jing? The power of expectant life, held within and nurtured?) - sorry I digress - Where does our love go, when our jing is stored within ourselves? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thelerner Posted December 28, 2008 The same someone who gazes at stars seeks within... Is there any different intent then wonder and awe's power to have their own quest to be satisfied? (Answers are sought through mist and foggy Questions, even when those questions carry wieght, the power of wonder and awe - as it were - is a seminal force... is that jing? The power of expectant life, held within and nurtured?) - sorry I digress - Where does our love go, when our jing is stored within ourselves? The jing bounces in the palace heated and frustrated. Love and anger flip like a coin. The effort exhausts itself and jing is released. Or best of all Jing sublimates - We truly love ourselves and reflect it like a star. A scholar walks up to a holy man says "I spit on your traditions" and spits at him. What does the holy man do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stigweard Posted December 28, 2008 The jing bounces in the palace heated and frustrated. Love and anger flip like a coin. The effort exhausts itself and jing is released. Or best of all Jing sublimates - We truly love ourselves and reflect it like a star. A scholar walks up to a holy man says "I spit on your traditions" and spits at him. What does the holy man do? He says, "Would you like a cup of tea!" The students asks, "Master what would you do if you walked around the corner and there was a man with a shotgun?" How does the Master answer? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mal Posted January 30, 2009 He says, "Would you like a cup of tea!" The students asks, "Master what would you do if you walked around the corner and there was a man with a shotgun?" How does the Master answer? "I would not have walked around the corner" *slaps student on head* When a choice appears, which way do you travel? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zanshin Posted January 30, 2009 "I would not have walked around the corner" *slaps student on head* When a choice appears, which way do you travel? You go to your destination. Where is the end of time? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stigweard Posted January 31, 2009 You go to your destination. Where is the end of time? That little space after the 'e' and before the question mark What is destroyed when it is named? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
exorcist_1699 Posted January 31, 2009 (edited) Koan has been proved to be an unsuccessful way of leading people , at least most people , to Enlightenment. On the contrary , in most cases, it leads people to reasoning , guess ,small tricks..etc . Its failure is one of the reasons why the Pure Land school rises. From Taoist point of view , the jing-qi-shen method is more reliable . Edited January 31, 2009 by exorcist_1699 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stigweard Posted January 31, 2009 Koan has been proved to be an unsuccessful way of leading people , at least most people , to Enlightenment. On the contrary , in most cases, it leads people to reasoning , guess ,small tricks..etc . Its failure is one of the reasons why the Pure Land school rises. From Taoist point of view , the jing-qi-shen method is more reliable . Perhaps we are just having some fun Too much seriousness can lead to morbidity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteTiger Posted January 31, 2009 (edited) Edited January 31, 2009 by WhiteTiger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted January 31, 2009 That little space after the 'e' and before the question mark What is destroyed when it is named? Silence. My dog has Buddha nature but won't come when I clap one hand. Why is this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
exorcist_1699 Posted January 31, 2009 (edited) Perhaps we are just having some fun Too much seriousness can lead to morbidity. When I posted it , I was half-sleeping. Sorry for interrupting you guys . Continue your fun Edited January 31, 2009 by exorcist_1699 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mal Posted January 31, 2009 Silence. My dog has Buddha nature but won't come when I clap one hand. Why is this? Because you even put a cat on a leash! Poor dog is probably terrified When I look in a mirror, what looks back? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thelerner Posted January 31, 2009 When I look in a mirror, what looks back? Frivolous reply My evil twin from an alternate dimension. Modern logical No thing looks back, its just an image from a nanosecond ago. Modern Buddhist? Feedback as awareness focuses on a physical image that carries it around. Michael What happens to our past? (though I'd be happy with a few more answers to Mal's Q.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stigweard Posted January 31, 2009 What happens to our past? (though I'd be happy with a few more answers to Mal's Q.) Compost What belongs to you but is used most by others? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted January 31, 2009 Compost What belongs to you but is used most by others? Your name. Who is writing this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thelerner Posted February 1, 2009 Your name. Who is writing this? No, Who is on first, It's Why thats important If the universe is real and I am fake (just moment by moment perception) then how do I relate to the world? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted February 1, 2009 No, Who is on first, It's Why thats important If the universe is real and I am fake (just moment by moment perception) then how do I relate to the world? No I, no world. Where do I look to find the origin of the mind? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the buddha & the beast Posted February 1, 2009 If: 2 X 0 = 0 2 X ∞ (infinity) = ∞ (infinity) Does 0 = ∞ ? If 0=0 & 0=+ an infinite number of things & - an infinite number of things Then does that mean when we go from seeing the world in duality to seeing one single thing... that we realize that 0 (Nothing) made everything, (instead of "God")? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mYTHmAKER Posted February 1, 2009 If: 2 X 0 = 0 2 X ∞ (infinity) = ∞ (infinity) Does 0 = ∞ ? If 0=0 & 0=+ an infinite number of things & - an infinite number of things Then does that mean when we go from seeing the world in duality to seeing one single thing... that we realize that 0 (Nothing) made everything, (instead of "God")? What is the everything that is not God. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevin Posted February 1, 2009 What is the everything that is not God. Answer: See? Even God can afford to be enlightened. New Koan: When a pebble has hit the water, which ripples does the water keep? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mYTHmAKER Posted February 1, 2009 Answer: See? Even God can afford to be enlightened. New Koan: When a pebble has hit the water, which ripples does the water keep? The third one from the center. Now lets get back to my koan. The answer you gave was lacking in understanding. "What is the everything that is not God." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted February 2, 2009 The third one from the center. Now lets get back to my koan. The answer you gave was lacking in understanding. "What is the everything that is not God." God is everything but everything is not God. If you are reading this: "Are you here because of me, or am I here because of you?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mYTHmAKER Posted February 2, 2009 God is everything but everything is not God. If you are reading this: "Are you here because of me, or am I here because of you?" God is everything but everything is not God. Nope not it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
