Now that the lie of Christ Mass is over

[Wu Ming Jen]

This  God, according to the Bible, is directly responsible for many mass-murders, rapes, pillage, plunder, slavery, child abuse and killing, not to mention the killing of unborn children.  I have included references to the Biblical passages, so grab your Bible and follow along.

It always amazes me how many times this  God orders the killing of innocent people even after the Ten Commandments said Thou shall not kill. For example,  God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21).

God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there.  He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3).  He orders another attack and the killing of all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses (Joshua 6).  In Judges 21 He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married. When they wanted more virgins, God told them to hide alongside the road and when they saw a girl they liked, kidnap her and forcibly rape her and make her your wife!

Just about every other page in the Old Testament has  God killing somebody!

[vonkrankenhaus]

People have had around 2000 years to think about that.

 

And made nothing of it.

 

And now comes the new religion of "science".

 

With the god called "Industry".

 

Which seems to have the same fondness for killing and wrecking.

 

And commandments (laws) for people that it also disregards.

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

[Wu Ming Jen]

The 4th pope wanted to take Genesis out of the bible because science and that knowledge would nullifie the religion.

 

I am all about the divine eternal aspects of life but a system flying under a false flag and makes the worst of human nature OK is not OK with me.  

 

western science is also biased, science for the sake of knowledge instead of  Chinese science that is science to help all of humanity.

 

It is no misguidance that we seek eastern alternatives to an evil god

 

The Gods of old all had responsibilities, administrative duties that mimic a healthy way of life. now with one god we have self interest and all those horrible judgments and nastiness flying under the flag that morals are not apart of our divine being but must be instilled by an outside source very funny and sad stuff.

[Nungali]

You cant blame something/someone that doesnt exist.   Do you really believe in such a "God'. 

 

Man does these things, and each type of man  (  from 'clan' to 'culture' )  creates each type of God to justify their clamber to the top of the pile. 

 

 

 'Chinese science'  that is science to help all of humanity ? 

 

 

[Wu Ming Jen]

I don't believe in god but the Christian God is a mass murder. Talk about idle worship some celebrate a mass murderer as their god. out of god's own self interest of the one and only, all others must join or die.. It is the ones deceived or actually benefit with profit and gain that do the actual killing.

 

look at new york city 1972 looks just like beijing smog problem today.

 

The science is that which introduces us to our true self a fully realized being beyond reality and truth. To benefit all humanity not just one group of people.

 

personally I live a rich life full of many positive attributes and should be obvious not a Christian.

 

The fun I intended is how christ became apart of pagan traditions. all people of the world celebrate winter solstice in one form or another throughout all time, the hexagram return in the I Ching.

 

The other fun thing is how many jesuses their have been born dec 25th and have 12 disciples in western history (excluding the far east, this stuff does not exist).

 

I mention fun because it really makes no difference to a self realized person well beyond the mud of this world and unaffected..

[thelerner]

Tearing down other people's religions is easy.  Maybe there was a time it was intellectual or even brave.  These days I think it is those who are religious who are the brave ones. 

[Bud Jetsun]

Two 'Gods' in bibles.

 

One God creates the way of nature in Love and IS all eternally.

 

Second "God" acts like spoiled vengeful kindergartener with no inner peace or realization of way of nature and no timeless omnipotence.

 

 

 

 

[Wu Ming Jen]

Thanks for playing I knew you guys would be all over it quicker than I thought. my post was not creating balance and harmony but separation and harm. My experiment was promoting one sidedness and we are not one dimensional people.

Happy holidays peace and harmony with all things.

[Marblehead]

Two 'Gods' in bibles. One God creates the way of nature in Love and IS all eternally. Second "God" acts like spoiled vengeful kindergartener with no inner peace or realization of way of nature and no timeless omnipotence.

That has been my understanding and argument for a few years now.

[Aetherous]

It's hubris to speak ill of God, or to claim a full understanding of it/him, regardless of whether there is a valid point to make or not based on our limited perspective. All that we can control are our own thoughts and actions, and even those are nearly impossible for us to control.

[Bud Jetsun]

It's hubris to speak ill of God, or to claim a full understanding of it/him, regardless of whether there is a valid point to make or not based on our limited perspective. All that we can control are our own thoughts and actions, and even those are nearly impossible for us to control.

A thought has still never left your ultimate control. What one may choose to conclude practice of is the illusion someone/something else had ever been capable of thinking for us.

 

That which is labeled God (or Tao or Logos etc) is inherently no more than a humans delusion of understanding the meaning of the label to be. Yet we are all God/Tao/Logos and seamlessly experienceing God/Tao/Logos as a whole. Some are just choosing to trade this awareness for there own choice in concerns/thoughts to needlessly replace it with.

 

Unlimited Love,

-Bud

Edited December 27, 2015 by Bud Jetsun

[Nungali]

Two 'Gods' in bibles. One God creates the way of nature in Love and IS all eternally. Second "God" acts like spoiled vengeful kindergartener with no inner peace or realization of way of nature and no timeless omnipotence.

 

NO ! 

 

< thumps table >  There is no God ,  but God  !  Only one God !     Not two Gods in the Bible  , no no no ...

 

Let me explain it to you :

 

There is this one God originally, and he used to get happy by sacrifice -  he even suggested to one of his people that he should sacrifice his own son !   But then he stopped him .....   nah ! just testin ya, put down that  throat cutting knife and get your son off the slab.   But he did require dead animals and some blood thrown around his temple ... and he also liked the smell of burning fat  (that nice fat from around the kidneys, especially, that was his favourite bit. 

 

 But all that changed ....   the one God, sent his own son to earth, who is also the one God.  And he said, this sacrifice caper is pretty fucked up, so its all going to change, now, blood sacrifice is no longer required ; God changed all that by his own son sacrificing his life on the cross and ....   

 

Hang on ....          ummmm    ....      I'll get back to you on that. 

[Nungali]

Thanks for playing I knew you guys would be all over it quicker than I thought. my post was not creating balance and harmony but separation and harm. My experiment was promoting one sidedness and we are not one dimensional people.

 

 

 

 Hmmmmmmmmm    ....          

[Wells]

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Edited May 10, 2016 by Wells

[shanlung]

western science is also biased, science for the sake of knowledge instead of  Chinese science that is science to help all of humanity.

 

 

Chinese science enabled Shi Huang Di crossbows that can fire bolts 800 meters to help humanity.

 

Extract from dailymail.co.uk article Mar 20 2015

 

The Terracotta Army crossbow that could shoot twice as far as a modern-day rifle: Archaeologists unearth 2,200-year-old weapon at historic Chinese site 

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/peoplesdaily/article-3004149/2-200-year-old-crossbow-powerful-modern-day-assault-rifle-discovered-Terracotta-Warriors.html 

 

Idiotic Taoist all for science especially of sticks and stones

[Perceiver]

Yes, the monoteistic gods are cruel and religions are fake and inferior to the principles of evidence and reason. But John locke and Thomas hobbes demonstrated this already in like the 16th century, so isnt it about time to look for more sophisticated avenues of intellectual enthusiasm? Just sayin dawg .

[Marblehead]

... our own thoughts and actions, and even those are nearly impossible for us to control.

Mostly because there are so many others who are trying to do the controlling for us.

[Marblehead]

Let me explain it to you :

You didn't do a very good job with that one.  Hehehe.

[Marblehead]

Chinese science enabled Shi Huang Di crossbows that can fire bolts 800 meters to help humanity.

Yeah, we need be cautious when talking about these things.  The Chinese were first with inventions of many tools for killing people.

 

And they are still serving the meat of endangered and protected species in their restaurants.

 

The Chinese are humans just like the rest of us. 

[Nungali]

Yeah, well.

I am more concerned about the fact that on Christmas I have to endure for one afternoon the presence of the daughter of my cousin, the most irritating and most narcissistic little girl the human race could possibly generate.

As I am the only person she doesn't get any narcissistic supply of, she behaves especially nerve-racking near me,

throwing the gift wrapping paper of her endless pile of Christmas presents at me etc.

So I used the afternoon for visualization practice,

inventing great new ideas Caligula would have been proud of!

Thank god its over (for this year).

 

 

A friend of mine told me his parents and his partner's  parents have split up. So at Christmas, they and their kids are required to 'do' four Christmases     ..... holy shit !  

 

I hermited this year, as usual.   Last year I did it though and I too have  a 'troublesome'  .... grandniece, I think she would be ....  except she is my favourite one      ... she can ;

 

suddenly freeze and let out an ear piercing scream , so she is constantly told  'dont scream ' .  She came tearing in to the garden lunch party , screamings at the top of voice, stops, looks admonishingly at us all and tells us  "Dont scream! "  

 

once, when she was having a violent attack she clawed her father's face, he lost it a bit grabbed both her arms and yelled at her  "Dont hit Daddy! "  .   It worked !  Now, when she is about to lose it, she checks herself  by saying out loud 'Dont hit daddy' , whether its Daddy , someone else, the cat, any thing, her own fist     

 

got a 'repeat what you say to it' doll as a present . Later she was playing with it and it was headless , my sister ( her grandma) asks "What happened to Dolly's head ? "  She opens this cute little girlbag she was given and the head is in it . Sister ; "How did that happen ? "    "Dolly wouldnt say what I wanted her to say."    ....   Sister ( to me )  ;    ....  then we both   

 

yeah , she is autistic,  me and Sis seem the only ones that get her, I just ignored her, that fascinated her ! Later I tried telepathy and she immediately  sparked up and looked at me with wide open eyes .  Later I tried some  simple facial expression communication (in relation to the others conversation, I knew she was listening to them, although it didnt seem like it.   That seems to have snapped it , she came over and leant against me as I sat at the table, totally out of character for her. I ignored that to , just moved up the bench a bit, so she started to try to climb up on the bench, so  without looking at her I just put my arm around her and helped her up and she sat there.

 

The others, especially the parents, freaked ! Made a big deal out of it  (as she doesnt allow contact ) "Look what she is doing !  ... what is she doing ..... she must be trying to climb over you to get to Grandma  ...   "

 

Despite my most ' NO !  Back off ! "   glare at them, they grabbed her ( to try and 'help' her get to Grandma )  ...    of course she immediatley reverted back, fought off violently , went to the corner and started screaming again  !  

 

Family !      

 

 

If I were you Mr Wells, I would save all that paper  Princess Smarmy threw at you (and any other similar stunts throughout her life), and leave a letter to  her in your will, saying you were super rich and always hid the fact,  yet you always remembered her and here is something for herto remember you by.  .....  its  in the big tied up box with your name on it in my storeroom.  

[Nungali]

Yes, the monoteistic gods are cruel and religions are fake and inferior to the principles of evidence and reason. But John locke and Thomas hobbes demonstrated this already in like the 16th century, so isnt it about time to look for more sophisticated avenues of intellectual enthusiasm? Just sayin dawg .

 

 

Oh certainly ... we were just  playing and  knew you  would be all over it quicker than we thought. The comments were not creating balance and harmony but separation and harm. The experiment was promoting one sidedness and we are not one dimensional people.

 

[shanlung]

Chinese science enabled Shi Huang Di crossbows that can fire bolts 800 meters to help humanity.

 

 

Another fascinating result of the Chinese science is the rolling barrage used in more sophisticated sticks and stones.

 

Nope !  That did not start in WW1 in Verdun or Ypres or thereabouts.

 

The first recorded rolling barrage was in the Mongol invasion of Europe under Subotei who was the Mongol Generalissimo/Field Marshal in 1241.  With less than 100,000 Mongols and allied Chinese specialists, the armies of Europe such as the Teutonic Knights and whatever other knights were wiped out.  Subotei planned coordinated attacks on united front over 1000 km wide. making wide use of SunZi Pingfa in addition to his innate ability.

 

At the battle of Mohi, European knights and crossbowmen were introduced to the delights of Chinese gunpowder and bombs in   rolling barrages that left them no place to hide other than in Hell.

 

Luckily for Europe, the son of Genghis Khan , Ogodei, died back in Mongolia.

 

The entire Mongolian armies under other Mongol Princes were ordered to go back to Mongolia by Subotei to elect the next Great Khan.

 

Or else folks here will be writing Chinese or Mongolian script instead of English.

 

Idiotic Taoist all for science of the sticks and stones

[Astral Monk]

That has been my understanding and argument for a few years now.

Gnostic!!

 

[Astral Monk]

Yes, Yaweh LOVES killin'...as much as him loooves roastin' sinners in hell for all eternity...and Christians meanwhile revere blood and torture. Thats their symbol ffs!!! They crave armagedon and terrible global bloodshed. I mean, if it werent for roasting sinners, how would the golden city be heated?? Certainly not by good intentions!!

 

Merty Christmassextinction indeed!!

 

But I loves the pagan trees!!

 

8)

[Marblehead]

The trees look better still alive in the forests.