Questions for Wang Li Ping?

[Charles Crawford III]

I am going on a meditation retreat with Wang Li Ping on April 8 through April 18, 2016. 

 

http://longmen.eu/registration-longmen-2016/

 

Here is a Wikipedia article about him: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wang_Liping_(Taoist)

 

What questions would you ask a skilled meditater? What questions do you have for Wang Li Ping?

[thelerner]

Congratulations, that's great.  I might ask him,

What are the sign posts of progress?

Similarly, what are signs of problems with our practice? 

 

 

You know what else I might ask, if you get the right moment.. something like 'I live in cityX, we're known for, somethingY,  is there anything you'd like that I can bring or send to you?' 

Beyond being a master these guys are also people.  There may be certain things in your town, maybe a travel book or food item that they'd like for themselves or a relative.  Its a great way to start a relationship with them and/or just express gratitude.  

Edited January 5, 2016 by thelerner

[liminal_luke]

No questions for now, but wanted to send my best wishes for a productive retreat. I think it takes good karma (or destiny, not sure the right word) to arrange something like that. Hope you´ll report back about your experiences if appropriate.

 

Liminal

[NotVoid]

It might be useful to know what Mr. Wang Liping thinks about the following:

For a modern person who works full time and has various other responsibilities and demands on their time, what would be the most effective practice to focus on for self cultivation purposes? What is the minimum time a person should practice this practice each day to have any reasonable chance of making good progress in self cultivation? 

[silent thunder]

I was at the LA retreat a couple weeks ago.  Paradigm is still shifting in response to the effects of the field and the depth of its influence.  Utterly, simply pervasive.  Wang is a treasure and Liao the bridge bringing it to the West.  My deep gratitude to them both.  Enjoy!

[Charles Crawford III]

Congratulations, that's great.  I might ask him,

What are the sign posts of progress?

Similarly, what are signs of problems with our practice? 

Good questions, thanks.

[Charles Crawford III]

No questions for now, but wanted to send my best wishes for a productive retreat. I think it takes good karma (or destiny, not sure the right word) to arrange something like that. Hope you´ll report back about your experiences if appropriate.

 

Liminal

Thanks, it is only from my diligent training in Shaolin Yijinjing Gengmenpai that I was made aware of this retreat, so I see it as a good sign that I am on the right path.

[Charles Crawford III]

It might be useful to know what Mr. Wang Liping thinks about the following:

For a modern person who works full time and has various other responsibilities and demands on their time, what would be the most effective practice to focus on for self cultivation purposes? What is the minimum time a person should practice this practice each day to have any reasonable chance of making good progress in self cultivation? 

I read Wang Li Ping's book, and he does have a lot of training methods, so those are good questions to ask. 

[Charles Crawford III]

I was at the LA retreat a couple weeks ago.  Paradigm is still shifting in response to the effects of the field and the depth of its influence.  Utterly, simply pervasive.  Wang is a treasure and Liao the bridge bringing it to the West.  My deep gratitude to them both.  Enjoy!

What exactly did you witness, and what of the training are you allowed to share?

[silent thunder]

Hey Charles,

 

I'm not inclined to share much...

I've only talked about three specific things to my wife and son, the rest is just really beyond words and I'm still processing.  I will say it was remarkable and I am deeply grateful to Masters Wang and Liao for their efforts and compassion.  I look forward to attending again and I'm truly stoked for your coming experience.

 

The process for this retreat was to sit twice a day, mid-morning and afternoon.  Couple days in, they added an early morning walking meditation and most evenings there was tree work and/or sleep meditations.

 

One thing that is easy to talk about and I will share, is that at some point mid retreat, I realized I hadn't been using my reading glasses for a couple days and I haven't needed them yet, so I'll find out if this is a temporary effect of the field, or if Master Wang effected something more permanent in my case.  I requested no healing as I am healthy.  My entire focus for the retreat was to close down excessive shen, open up the heart and stabilize energy in the foundation.  All of those things manifested and continue to play out as I continue to use what was shared.

[Green Tiger]

That's an exciting opportunity.  What questions would you like to ask him, Charles?

[JohnC]

Good luck and I hope you have an excellent retreat!

[Slim]

It might be useful to know what Mr. Wang Liping thinks about the following:

For a modern person who works full time and has various other responsibilities and demands on their time, what would be the most effective practice to focus on for self cultivation purposes? What is the minimum time a person should practice this practice each day to have any reasonable chance of making good progress in self cultivation? 

 

Hi NotVoid, not quite the question you were asking but I asked Mr. Wang a similar one.

 

I asked him once about what kind of training schedule I should follow. He answered me, "don't schedule." Keep it natural. Practice when you want. Of course he was answering me personally and I tend towards over-control (I've noticed that he will answer the same question in different ways depending on who's asking). Another time he said don't sit too much, just 5 or 6 hours a day. I guess it really depends on what we want out of the practice. 

 

I just remembered another one, in an old talk Mr. Wang gave to his students in the late eighties. Someone asked how long they should sit for. Mr. Wang answered sit until it begins to hurt, then keep going for another 2 hours. Sometimes I wish I had taken up golf 

 

Charles Crawford have a wonderful time (hope I did't scare you off).

[silent thunder]

Master Wang reiterated those words to our group on several occasions on the recent retreat when a similar question was asked.

 

He spoke of three types of Taoists... Mountain Sages, Temple Taoists and Family Taoists.

The Mountain Sages and Temple Taoists can devote all day, every day to exercises and process, where the Family Taoist is restrained by the functioning of their life and the upkeep of their family.  As such, he said, do not be rigid in your practice, but flexible and take time for exercises when you are able.

 

He recommended that optimal practice is four hours at a stretch, two hours being the minimum.  We sat for two hours at a time in retreat, but the effect of the field made things more... intense for certain.  I have found, as he said we would, if I could sit in that field for two hours unmoving, that I would be able to more easily sit at home for four.  He is correct.  In fact, since attending the retreat and really refusing to move my legs no matter how much I wanted to, I no longer have any pain, of any kind sitting for hours and hours.

 

I have to stress that he celebrated being a Family Taoist and never once alluded to it being a burden.  He repeatedly spoke of how highly he values being connected and enjoying his connection to life and family.  For here in the family, in our jobs, in our life, is Tao. 

[gendao]

1) Why do Daoists seek to be only "pure Yang" immortals?  Why not with Yin, or somehow transcending both?

2) What are the differences, theoretically and experientially, between Yin and Yang qi?

3) How do you find and cultivate "True Yang" or xiantian yuan qi/jing?

4) Can he walk through walls?  Based on the supposition that an enlightened body (not just mind) is one with everything?

[thelerner]

 most evenings there was tree work and/or sleep meditations.

Great post, I was wondering if you could talk about the sleep meditations

[silent thunder]

Great post, I was wondering if you could talk about the sleep meditations

I won't say much, because the sleep meditations were among some of the most profound experiences of my life and words just don't encompass what took place.  Paradigm shifting stuff.  I will share some of the more blunt experiences/sensations though.

 

The meditations were quite simple and required very little from the students, aside from laying in a specific posture and breathing in a simple pattern for a set count with focus on one, or more of the Dan Tien, depending where the work would be done.

 

The effects seemed to manifest from the field generated by Master Wang, my being open and relaxed within it and following the instructions very carefully at the designated time... It really felt as if he (and one night, some of his teachers and past lineage holders) were expending the effort and working on me/with me/for me and the most effective thing I could do was try and not interfere, or resist. 

 

They ranged from one to four hours in length.  The physical sensations included floating, prickling, water flowing, intense heat emanating, flowing and pulsing in, through and out of the body and outside the body in a mind boggling array of directions.  Intense, spontaneous physical motions... to the point that I was laughing several times while wondering if I may just flop right out of bed.  Being awakened at various points in the night and flowing in and out of sleep with magnetic pulsing in the heart, lungs and MDT.  Pulsing in the liver and kidneys.

 

Very potent and lucid dreams nightly.  And one night in particular while he was working with the heart, spontaneously sitting up in bed from sleep hours later, into seated stillness form and being visited systematically for about three hours one by one, by nearly everyone whom I have ever had a strong connection with, friend, foe, animal, family, trees... all the way back to preschool...

 

The effect of the spontaneous physical motion was one of having gone through a four hour physical therapy session that rendered my body and joints more physically relaxed than I can recall, which resulted in the meridians opening up and subsequent the mental/emotional clarity brought about by the heart work which is still manifesting when I sit. 

 

Profound.  Deeply Compassionate.  Loving.  Grateful.  Subtle and Deeply Pervasive. Lovingly Penetrative and Infusing. Opening and Releasing and Simultaneously Contracting and Expanding are all words and phrases that come to mind now to describe the process.

 

It is ongoing.  I still wake on occasion, to the magnetic affect in my lungs/heart.

[kha]

Great post, I was wondering if you could talk about the sleep meditations

You can find the sleeping meditations, along with other methods, in this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Ling-Bao-Tong-Neng-Gong/dp/1470174545/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top?ie=UTF8

 

I don't think that reading the book and practicing by yourself will give the same results as silent thunder had at the seminar, but maybe I'm wrong.

 

Thanks to silent thunder for sharing his experiences.

[thelerner]

You can find the sleeping meditations, along with other methods, in this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Ling-Bao-Tong-Neng-Gong/dp/1470174545/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top?ie=UTF8

 

I don't think that reading the book and practicing by yourself will give the same results as silent thunder had at the seminar, but maybe I'm wrong.

 

Thanks to silent thunder for sharing his experiences.

sonofabitch, I've got that book. When I got it I wasn't up for 'doing' another system so I skimmed the first few chapters and never really digested or practiced from it.   I'll have to go back and see if I can dig up the sleeping meditations. 

 

Though I've found working on sleep meditations, exotic or not, lften leaves me with greater insomnia.