the deletion or hiding of posts without explanation

[Apech]

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Edited January 27, 2016 by Apech

[Apech]

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Edited January 27, 2016 by Apech

[Jonesboy]

No they were posts from gatito calling me unsavory and banning me from any threads he may start.

 

Personal attacks really.

[Jonesboy]

I understand, a small group likes to bring up stuff on a lot of threads even when it has nothing to do with the topic

[Apech]

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Edited January 27, 2016 by Apech

[Jonesboy]

Don't ask me.

[Apech]

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Edited January 27, 2016 by Apech

[Jonesboy]

Well thank you for bringing it up.

 

The personal insults from the same group in every thread needs to stop.

 

Now we do have a group of new mods so a little understanding is in order.

[gatito]

On TI's threads, I play by TI's rules because TI owns those threads.

 

On my threads, TI plays by my rules.

 

Sincere apologies TI if this causes you any problems - because it really shouldn't...

 

_/\_

 

PS I deleted 2 of TI's posts on one of my threads and "Thanked" him fot the second one before I deleted it just to wind him up.

 

You people really need to lighten up - it's only an internet message board FFS...

Edited January 26, 2016 by gatito

[Apech]

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Edited January 27, 2016 by Apech

[gatito]

Life moves on Apech and you need to move on with it or you'll meet the same fate as the dinosaurs.
 
The New Rules have been around for a long time and you just need to lean how to play by them...
 

 

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Edited January 26, 2016 by gatito

[Michael Sternbach]

Posts from this thread http://thedaobums.com/topic/40327-the-holy-spirit-is-not-kundalini-daskalos/?p=669550 have been hidden or deleted without warning or explanation.

 

Could the moderation team please provide an explanation of their decision as this is in breach of DaoBums custom and practice going back to when I first joined, as established by Sean.

 

This is important so please reply as soon as possible.

 

This has nothing to do with the moderating team.

 

I took a look. Numerous posts were hidden by the OP, and one by its author.

 

In keeping with the "owner permissions" arrangement, they can do this. The creator of a thread or post relatively speaking  has far more leeway than the mods or admins, the way things are now.

[Apech]

This has nothing to do with the moderating team.

 

I took a look. Numerous posts were hidden by the OP, and one by its author.

 

In keeping with the "owner permissions" arrangement, they can do this. The creator of a thread or post relatively speaking  has far more leeway than the mods or admins, the way things are now.

 

 

Ah ok I accept I am a dinosaur.

 

Since I haven't been paying attention - I will take this opportunity to say that 'owner permission' in General Discussion is a really shit idea.  I must admit I thought it only applied in ppfs and specialised sections.  It just opens up even more game playing as gatito so amply illustrated above.

 

But sorry for the fuss - but I guess I can say I still care - which something.

[thelerner]

I took a look. Numerous posts were hidden by the OP, and one by its author.

Exactly what I suspected. 

 

I just read through the thread for the first time.  I'm sorry it got ugly.  Religion, politics.. Mo Pai.. these things are hot and should be treated with ..  more common courtesy then most. 

[Apech]

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Edited January 27, 2016 by Apech

[gatito]

Ah ok I accept I am a dinosaur.

 

Since I haven't been paying attention - I will take this opportunity to say that 'owner permission' in General Discussion is a really shit idea.  I must admit I thought it only applied in ppfs and specialised sections.  It just opens up even more game playing as gatito so amply illustrated above.

 

But sorry for the fuss - but I guess I can say I still care - which something.

 

Stops a lot of the moderation headaches though...

 

I'm still in the beta stages of testing it myself - but let's hope that it turns this place into something really special...

Edited January 27, 2016 by gatito

[gatito]

I don't want to play, thanks.

 

Then don't.

 

That's the beauty of the idea - we can all use this place the way that we choose to (within the overarching framework of the rules that Trunk codified so well).

Edited January 27, 2016 by gatito

[Apech]

Then don't.

 

That's the beauty of the idea - we can all use this place the way that we choose to (within the overarching framework of the rules that Trunk codified so well).

 

Yes I can quite see that it would appeal to you.  But since I am am clearly still suffering from Post Traumatic Moderation Syndrome I'll give it a miss.

[gatito]

Yes I can quite see that it would appeal to you.  But since I am am clearly still suffering from Post Traumatic Moderation Syndrome I'll give it a miss.

 

You most certainly will be continuing to give it a miss (in my threads anyway...).

 

Edited January 27, 2016 by gatito

[Michael Sternbach]

Ah ok I accept I am a dinosaur.

 

Since I haven't been paying attention - I will take this opportunity to say that 'owner permission' in General Discussion is a really shit idea.  I must admit I thought it only applied in ppfs and specialised sections.  It just opens up even more game playing as gatito so amply illustrated above.

 

But sorry for the fuss - but I guess I can say I still care - which something.

 

The idea behind this is to make TDB more self-governing, with less need for moderator action. In this regard, an attempt to approach a Daoist ideal.

 

Obviously, it can be frustrating for a contributor to see their posts get hidden. Needless to say, you are free to not further contribute to threads whose OP you know to use their permissions in a way that you don't approve of. The more people do this, the greater the loss for the forum will be, however.

 

So yes, there is an up and a down side to this.

[dawei]

 

You wrote this and then hide the thread:

 

Given that's the case; both you and Jeff are permanently banned from all my threads, for being far worse thanunsavoury...

 

Make sure that you tell your Master, so that I can avoid the vexation of having to press any buttons to kick him out myself.

 

This is  not what Owner's Permissions are for.   You cannot claim to remove future posts.  The removal should be based on:

 

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[Jeff]

Ah ok I accept I am a dinosaur.

 

Since I haven't been paying attention - I will take this opportunity to say that 'owner permission' in General Discussion is a really shit idea.  I must admit I thought it only applied in ppfs and specialised sections.  It just opens up even more game playing as gatito so amply illustrated above.

 

But sorry for the fuss - but I guess I can say I still care - which something.

 

Add me into that group to regarding General Discussion (and the main sections). People seem to want to ban any opinion that is different than their own, hence the concept of discussion dies...

[gatito]

dawei

 

You are mistaken I hid nothing.

 

TI (or someone else) did all the post removals - you can reveal all mine (in their entirety) if you want and take any action that you choose thereafter.

 

I gave my word to abide by the rules and I did and I'll continue so to do.

[Marblehead]

No they were posts from gatito calling me unsavory and banning me from any threads he may start.

 

Personal attacks really.

I'm sorry Jonesboy but that caused me laughter.  Thanks.

[Marblehead]

I understand, a small group likes to bring up stuff on a lot of threads even when it has nothing to do with the topic

I accept partial responsibility for that.