Qi breathing will not slow the aging process

[silent thunder]

Master Wang Li Ping delivered a paradigm shifting and very potent lesson prior to one of our sessions regarding the immortal fetus practice and the image he drew was identical, minus the small/fine details.  Breath is inextricably linked to consciousness and body/mind process.  What a great image.  Thanks for the blazing reminder.

[opendao]

Master Wang Li Ping delivered a paradigm shifting and very potent lesson prior to one of our sessions regarding the immortal fetus practice and the image he drew was identical, minus the small/fine details.  Breath is inextricably linked to consciousness and body/mind process.  What a great image.  Thanks for the blazing reminder.

 

So Wang Liping teaches that such image with the immortal fetus exiting the body has anything related to the breath, consciousness and body/mind process?

[Bearded Dragon]

Nobody escapes physical death. What's the point in slowing it?

 

There is only one thing that never changes and that is who we are. As you open up to that you tend to live a more fulfilled life. Here for a good time not a long time.

[vonkrankenhaus]

How could anyone "reach" "the Dao"?

 

As if we said the "way" of making a sandwich.

 

It's not a "thing", this "way" of sandwich making.

 

How do we reach it?

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

[Sebastian]

How do we reach it?

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

 

We eat it ?

[opendao]

How could anyone "reach" "the Dao"?

 

As if we said the "way" of making a sandwich.

 

It's not a "thing", this "way" of sandwich making.

 

How do we reach it?

 

probably it's impossible to attain Dao until we stop understanding it just as "Way"...

[Taoist Texts]

How could anyone "reach" "the Dao"?

 

As if we said the "way" of making a sandwich.

 

It's not a "thing", this "way" of sandwich making.

 

How do we reach it?

Good question, bad answers.

 

 

Indeed The Dao  is nothing but The Way, it is not a thing.

But we are.

 

Once we accept this, the rest is technical.

[Cheshire Cat]

I don't know what this Dao really is.

But I think that we could tell if one follows the Dao or not, by the results that he gets.

Edited February 16, 2016 by Cheshire Cat

[idquest]

Good question, bad answers.

 

 

Indeed The Dao  is nothing but The Way, it is not a thing.

But we are.

 

Once we accept this, the rest is technical.

 

Waysun Liao says that Dao is a live entity... W. Liao is a highly respected practitioner.

[leth]

Good question, bad answers.

 

 

Indeed The Dao  is nothing but The Way, it is not a thing.

But we are.

 

Once we accept this, the rest is technical.

 

 

How are we things?

 

And how is Dao not a thing if we are things?

[Antares]

Taoist Texts

A youngish guy selling rejuvenation. Not much hands on experience there))

 

Rejuvenation is only side-effect of the correct practice, but is not the goal. Nobody selling anything here. Not everyone who is practicing neidan looks young because of the several reasons: age, history of illnesses, level of the practice and personal karmic abilities to practice right i.e. Destiny. I would say that Destiny is the most important thing here. Neidan is not for everyone but for those who is destined for it. Destiny belongs to energetic body and Neidan is based on the way different approach than qigong. This is wrong in general to think about rejuvenation practicing Neidan. But, of course, all people can benefit from Neidan, but not everyone gets same results.  Also it is wrong to think about  expenses and money paid for the classes . If you are destined for it you will find the way, if you are not you will find the reason why not. As simple as that

Edited February 17, 2016 by Antares

[Taoist Texts]

How are we things?

Good question Leth

 

Like this

 

Living Things - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Living_Things

•  

Living Things may refer to: Life, all objects that have self-sustaining processes (biology) Organisms, contiguous living systems (such as animals, plants, fungi, or micro-organisms)

 

 

And how is Dao not a thing if we are things?

It is nowhere to be found;) thats how;)

[vonkrankenhaus]

Re:

-----

"Waysun Liao says that Dao is a live entity... W. Liao is a highly respected practitioner."

-----

 

en·ti·ty

 

ˈen(t)ədē/

noun

noun: entity; plural noun: entities

a thing with distinct and independent existence.

"church and empire were fused in a single entity"

synonyms:

being, creature, individual, organism, life form;

 

In English language, he is incorrect.

 

And also, Dao is neither living nor dead.

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

[Taoist Texts]

Taoist Texts

 

Rejuvenation is only side-effect of the correct practice, but is not the goal.

so you guys got nothing

Nobody selling anything here.

 

 

Schedule:

The trainings take place every Sunday at 16:30 by UTC / GMT time zone (right after the 1st Daogong group).

The duration of one training is 1 hour.

You can attend the trainings from wherever you are. You only need to have a computer, webcam and Skype with group video calls support.

Laptop or desktop with Windows or Mac OS should work well.

 

 

If you would like to join our classes or you have any questions please send your request to [email protected].

 

 

Lol, for how much you guys are not selling these for here?

 

Not everyone who is practicing neidan looks young because of the several reasons: age, history of illnesses, level of the practice and personal karmic abilities to practice right i.e. Destiny.

so...nothing?

   Also it is wrong to think about  expenses and money paid for the classes .  

yes. less thinking, more forking over.

[Wu Ming Jen]

Why do immortals have to fit into our thoughts of what an immortal's is or should be?

 

Being the judge ourselves we may walk by immortals everyday and never know because this one is fat, this one is old, this one says weird things and the list goes on.

 

If anyone wishes to discount breathing let them not breath for 5 minutes and let us know if it is important or not. Breathing as we do when we are young from the belly reverses the direction of chest breathing and upward.

 

If anyone wishes to live in the body forever is just messed up, clinging with attachment, mistaking their body for who they are more weird thoughts only brings more weirdness into this world.

[rainbowvein]

On 2/16/2016 at 1:40 AM, Sebastian said:

We eat it ?

 

Yes. We eat a good spiritual meal every day to provide good nutrition.

 

No good spiritual nutrition, no spiritual development.

 

Edited June 25, 2017 by rainbowvein

[opendao]

I don't know what this Dao really is.

But I think that we could tell if one follows the Dao or not, by the results that he gets.

 

Right, the question for most of the reasonable people here is what results are signs of the correct practice, and what are not.

I described some traditional approach. People don't like it because no teachers on Facebook meet such criteria 

 

Why do immortals have to fit into our thoughts of what an immortal's is or should be?

 

obviously they don't have and will never follow human desires. But immortals should fit into what immortals wrote about immortality, right?

 

Every legit school of Dao has a lineage of xian-immortals. If the lineage is broken, and today there is no one to meet, then there is a big chance that methods are not correct any more.

 

so you guys got nothing

 

Schedule:

If you would like to join our classes or you have any questions please send your request to [email protected].

 

Lol, for how much you guys are not selling these for here?

 

so...nothing?

yes. less thinking, more forking over.

 

Again you missed something important. I'm not surprised though, you definitely is unable to read carefully. Any texts.

 

Daogong and Dao Shu from Yu Xian Pai school are preparatory methods. Nobody promises that your old fat ass will become just fat again. Nobody says you'll learn it online from immortals. So it looks like you're fooling yourself just to troll others. What are you selling except confusion and geriatric grumbling that all people around are stupid, bad, greedy and so on? If you know nothing and have nothing useful to say, then it's better to keep silence, because obviously your opinion has no value.

 

Neidan is about immortality. If in the school there are no immortals, then the risk to stay in ever confused troll mode is inevitable. There are 2 limits: learning from an immortal directly, and learning from talkative old charlatans like Taoist Texts.

 

Obviously between these 2 limits there are a lot of shades of grey: "teachers" who learnt Dao from immortals, but haven't finished and started to teach own schools based on incomplete methods or wrong understanding. Teachers who are in process of learning the initial steps, but the head of the school encourage them to teach some initial methods they are already good at. And many other situations. 

 

But I really believe that it's impossible to learn Dao without understanding what Dao is about. It's a question of intention, it's a question of choice what to learn, where to go, who to speak, how to read, what to ask and so on.

 

"If one does not know to which port one is sailing, no wind is favorable" (Seneca)

Edited February 18, 2016 by opendao

[Taoist Texts]

If you learn Dao from a school, where the masters are sick, look old and die, then you waste time, and it cannot be named Neidan or Dao cultivation. It sounds like a maxima, but it's the only way not to be fooled. 

 

 

 Not everyone who is practicing neidan looks young because of the several reasons: age, history of illnesses, level of the practice and personal karmic abilities to practice right i.e. Destiny.  

 

Hehe, one of these two has not updated their sales manual.

 

So which is it? Every one who practices neidan must look young or some may not? This is one confused sales team. But desperate for commission, one can see it;)

[opendao]

Hehe, one of these two has not updated their sales manual.

 

So which is it? Every one who practices neidan must look young or some may not? This is one confused sales team. But desperate for commission, one can see it;)

 

"masters" are not "everyone who is practising neidan". It's crystal clear for everybody except blind retarded morons.

Edited February 18, 2016 by opendao

[Antares]

Hehe, one of these two has not updated their sales manual.

 

So which is it? Every one who practices neidan must look young or some may not? This is one confused sales team. But desperate for commission, one can see it;)

 

Nice trolling. Continue, please. 

 

I agree with Opendao that NOT EVERYONE who is practicing Neidan is MASTER.

[Taoist Texts]

  blind retarded morons.

 

 

  your old fat ass   talkative old charlatans   

These angry masters are faceless but they sure are foulmouthed.

[opendao]

These angry masters are faceless but they sure are foulmouthed.

 

keep trolling, keep lying, keep confirming that every word I said is true about you.

[opendao]

Nice trolling. Continue, please. 

 

yeah, he will never stop. He is so pissed off with every true word about Dao just because if he accepts it, it will mean that this self proclaimed "Quanzhen master" is nothing. Zero. All his absurd theories, wrong translations, rubbish concepts will become just dust in his own blind eyes. It's much easier to continue to spread shit and scum.

[opendao]

"It is clear that if the present-day coarse and rustic practitioners do not obtain the great methods of the Golden Elixir, they will not obtain a long life. They may be able to heal illnesses and bring a dead person to life again, to abstain from cereals and be free from hunger for many years, to summon gods and demons, to be sitting at one moment and then rise up and disappear, to see one thousand miles away, to reveal the rise and fall of what is obscure and hidden, and to know the fortunes and calamities awaiting what has not yet sprouted. All this, however, will be of no advantage to increase the length of their life." (Baopu zi, chapter 14. Translated by Fabrizio Pregadio)

 

So why Daoists were so insisted in searching for methods to prolong life? Why it is so important?

[leth]

It is nowhere to be found;) thats how;)

 

I see Dao everywhere, it is in my mind, likewise the concept of use is in my mind aswell. But ontologically speaking I can't see how we exist.

 

We, and the self itself are mental constructs as much as the Dao is, and we interprete them as things. And yes 'thing' is but a mental construct aswell, but it is with these mental constructs that we interprete our experiences and communicate about them.

 

And as such Dao is a thing as much as we are things.