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Neidan on the rise in the west?

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I'm humbled by the flexibility and open-mindedness you've shown :)

 

Thanks for the document, too--looks like an interesting read.

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Dragon Gate institute seems like an awesome school. I travel to Montreal and Quebec more often but if I am ever in Vancouver I would love to stop in and say hi. Nice site.

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Nei Dan will probably become diluted if it becomes "trendy", just like various yogas. In my experience, the greatest challenge is authentic transmission. The true texts, and lineages are difficult, if not impossible to discern as there are no way of knowing what is genuine and alive practices from mere techniques. If you find a good teacher, hold on to it like you´ve found the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. 

 

My Nei Dan teacher changes his teachings continuously, and there are no emphasis on traditional practices. In fact, although the quality of his teachings have continued to evolve and become very direct and effective, people seem not to catch on. 

In fact, the better the teaching, the more confronting, and less popular it gets.

 

To my own experience, Nei Dan is a process of slowly confronting the false energies in my system. The closer I come to the core pollution, the less I want to practice, and the more scary it becomes. Thus, good Neidan practice is like pulling out a wisdom tooth yourself. It´s really uncomfortable, and not for everyone.

 

Be wary of false teachers.

 

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My Nei Dan teacher changes his teachings continuously, and there are no emphasis on traditional practices

 

Really? Is your teacher already Immortal? I have this irony because I believe (and this is traditional notion) that all authentic methods come from Immortals but not from mortal human beings who make up whatever they like and want to believe to. This is the way how traditional methods become trendy

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Really? Is your teacher already Immortal? I have this irony because I believe (and this is traditional notion) that all authentic methods come from Immortals but not from mortal human beings who make up whatever they like and want to believe to. This is the way how traditional methods become trendy

 

Is it his teacher who is changing things based on what they want or make up, or are they simply channeling the changes of the times through their practices?

 

In maintaining equanimity we are ever adjusting in new ways based on whatever we need to do to maintain the center.

 

I tend to agree about methods coming from immortals... the more we tune into the heart of things the more we attract the attention of guides who have passed this way before. Even as we follow their traces, we leave behind our own.

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 I believe (and this is traditional notion) that all authentic methods come from Immortals  

all the immortals got together, approached him in a park, looked him in the eye and personally told him so

 

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all the immortals got together, approached him in a park, looked him in the eye and personally told him so

No, you are wrong here. I have read some traditional Daoist texts and Baopuzi is one of them. You can read there how Huangdi, who is credited to be the founder of Daoism, got the Teaching and who had transmitted this Teaching to him

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No, you are wrong here. I have read some traditional Daoist texts and Baopuzi is one of them. 

 

ah, books again

 

You can read there   how Huangdi, ....got the Teaching and who had transmitted this Teaching to him

 

Who?   A talking mutant goat, thats who.

 

 

 the Yellow Emperor  visited the mythical East sea and met a talking beast called the Bai Ze who taught him the knowledge of all supernatural creatures.[46][47]

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He met not only a goat and a few supernatural creatures (Immortal I believe) descended to teach him as well. So you think they were mortal? Any proof of that ? :D

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A historic Chinese tale conveys its message to you by way of strange characters and exciting plots. Talking animals, magic, imaginary beings, dragons, and ghosts are just a few of the elements that may be used to deliver a lesson within the plot of a historic Chinese story. It is not unusual for a talking dragon or another creature to give you an escorted tour through a Chinese legend. 


 


In Wudang Kungfu there are a lot of lineages and back at its peak time their number counted up to more than 80 lineages. Lineages, sects, school or styles, in chinese ‘pai’ or ‘men’, have different sizes, meanings and reasons why they were created. Some are very big like our school’s main lineage the longmen pai – dragongate lineage – which is by far the biggest in whole china and around 70% of the daoist monks on mt. wudang derive from this lineage. In the family tree of the lineages the dragongate lineage is the trunk while other lineages like the chunyang pai are branches of the same tree. Many things are lost now and today some of the smaller lineages consist only of a few things teached within them. Most of them died out or were interrupted for a long time.   


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