Rosicrucian Keynotes

[Bodhicitta]

Franz Hartmann, in 1890, shared these principles of the Rosicrucians:

 

 

THE SECRET SIGNS OF THE ROSICRUCIANS.

There are sixteen signs by which a member of the order of the Rosicrucians may be known. He who possesses only a few of those signs is not a member of a very high degree, for the true Rosicrucian possesses them all.

 

1. The Rosicrucian is Patient.

His first and most important victory is the conquest of his own self. It is the victory over the LION, who has bitterly injured some of the best followers of the Holy Cross. He is not to be vanquished by a fierce and inconsiderate attack made upon him; but he must be made to surrender to patience and fortitude. The true Rosicrucian tries to overcome his enemies by kindness, and those who hate him by gifts. He heaps not curses, but the burning fire of love upon their heads. He does not persecute his enemies with the sword, or with faggots, but he suffers the weeds to grow with the wheat until they are both matured, when they will be separated by Nature.

2. The Rosicrucian is Kind.

He never appears gloomy or melancholy, or with a scowl or sneer upon his face. He acts kindly and politely towards everybody, and is always ready to render assistance to others. Although he is different from the majority of other people, still he tries to accommodate himself to their ways, habits and manners, as much as his dignity will permit. He is, therefore, an agreeable companion, and knows how to converse with the rich as well as with the poor, and to move among all classes of society so as to command their respect; for he has conquered the bear of vulgarity.

3. The Rosicrucian knows no Envy.

Before he is accepted into the order he must go through the terrible ordeal of cutting off the head of the snake of envy; which is a very difficult labour, because the snake is sly, and easily hides itself in some corner. The true Rosicrucian is always content with his lot, knowing that it is such as he deserves it to be. He never worries about

the advantages or riches which others possess, but wishes always the best to everybody. He knows that he will obtain all he deserves, and he cares not if any other person possesses more than he. He expects no favours, but he distributes his favours without any partiality.

Edited May 19, 2016 by Bodhicitta

[Bodhicitta]

Hartmann lists rules for Rosicrucians:

 

1. Love God above all. 
To “love God” means to love wisdom and truth. We can love God in no other way than in being obedient to Divine law; and to enable us to exercise that obedience conscientiously requires knowledge of the law, which can only be gained by practice. 
2. Devote your time to your spiritual advancement. 
As the sun without leaving his place in the sky sends his rays upon the earth to shine upon the pure and the impure, and to illuminate even the most minute material objects with his light; likewise the spirit of man may send his mental rays to obtain knowledge of all terrestrial things; but there is no need that the spirit should thereby lose its own divine self-consciousness, and be itself absorbed by the objects of its perception.
3. Be entirely unselfish. Spiritual knowledge begins only where all sense of self ceases. 
Where the delusion which causes man to imagine himself to be a being separated and isolated from all others ends, there he begins to realize his true state as an all-embracing universal and divine self-conscious power. 
4. Be temperate, modest, energetic, and silent. 
The door to the inner temple is called “Contentement”; but no animal can enter therein, only he who walks uprightly, being conscious of his true dignity as a human being. Without energy, nothing can be accomplished; and only in the silence, when all thoughts and desires are at rest, can the Divine harmonies penetrate to the internal ear.
5. Learn to know the origin of the METALS contained within thyself. 
Ignorance is the cause of suffering. That which is material must be crucified and die, so that that which is spiritual may be resurrected and live. 
6. Beware of quacks and pretenders. 
He who claims to be in possession of knowledge knows nothing; only he through whom the Word of wisdom speaks is wise. 
7. Live in constant adoration of the highest good. 
The worm seeks for pleasure among abomination and filth; but the free eagle spreads his wings and rises up towards the sun.
8. Learn the theory before you attempt the practice. 
He who travels with a trustworthy guide will be safer than he who refuses to profit by the experience of another. 
9. Exercise charity towards all beings. 
All beings are one in the spirit; divided from each other merely by the illusion of form. He who is charitable towards another form in which the universal One Life is manifest, saves suffering to his own self. 
10. Read the ancient books of wisdom. 
Books are to the unripe mind that which the mother’s milk is to the nursling. We must receive drink from others until we have gained sufficient strength and experience to descend to the living fountain within ourselves, and to draw from there the water of truth. 
11. Try to understand their secret meaning. 
That which is external may be seen with the external eye; but that which is spiritual can only be seen with the eyes of the spirit.

(From In the Pronaos of the Temple of Wisdom, Chapter 7, 1890)

[Bodhicitta]

Four more of the 16 secret signs of a real Rosicrucian:

 

 

4. The Rosicrucian does not Boast.

He knows that man is nothing but an instrument in the hands of GOD, and that he can accomplish nothing useful by his own will; the latter being nothing but the will of GOD perverted in man. To GOD he gives all the praise, and to that which is mortal he gives all the blame. He is in no inordinate haste to accomplish a thing, but he waits until he receives his orders from the Master who resides above and within. He is careful what he speaks about, and uses no unhallowed language.

5. The Rosicrucian is not Vain.

He proves thereby that there is something real in him, and that he is not like a blown-up bag filled with air. Applause or blame leaves him unaffected, nor does he feel aggrieved if he is contradicted or encounters contempt. He lives within himself, and enjoys the beauties of his own inner world, but he never desires to show off his possessions, nor to pride himself on any spiritual gifts which he may have attained. The greater his gifts, the greater will be his modesty, and the more will he be willing to be obedient to the law.

6. The Rosicrucian is not Disorderly.

He always strives to do his duty, and to act according to the order established by the law. He cares nothing for externalities, nor for ceremonies. The law is written within his heart, and therefore all his thoughts and acts are ruled by it. His respectability is not centred in his external appearance, but in his real being, which may be compared to a root from which all his actions spring. The interior beauty of his soul is reflected upon his exterior, and stamps all his acts with its seal; the light existing in his heart may be perceived in his eye by an expert; it is the mirror of the Divine image within.

7. The Rosicrucian is not Ambitious.

There is nothing more injurious to spiritual development and expansion of the soul than a narrow mind and a selfish character. The true Rosicrucian always cares much more for the welfare of others than for his own. He has no private or personal interest to defend or foster. He always seeks to do good, and he never avoids any opportunity which may present itself for that purpose.

[Bodhicitta]

8. The Rosicrucian is not Irritable.

It is evident that a person who works for the benefit of the whole will be hated by those whose personal advantages are not benefited thereby; because selfishness is opposed to magnanimity, and the claims of the few are not always compatible with the interests of the community. The Rosicrucian will therefore be often resisted by narrow-minded and short-sighted people; he will be slandered by calumniators, his motives will be misrepresented, he will be misjudged by the ignorant, ridiculed by the would-be wise, and taunted by the fool. All such proceedings, however, cannot excite or irritate the mind of the true Rosicrucian, nor disturb the divine harmony of his soul; for his faith rests in the perception and knowledge of the truth within himself. The opposition of a thousand ignorant people will not induce him to desist from doing that which he knows to be noble and good, and he will do it even if it should involve the loss of his fortune or of his life. Being able and accustomed to direct his spiritual sight towards the divine, he cannot be deluded by the illusions of matter, but clings to the eternal reality. Being surrounded by angelic influences, and listening to their voices, he is not affected by the noise made by the animals. He lives in the company of those noble beings, who were once men like others, but who have become transfigured, and who are now beyond the reach of the vulgar and low.

9. The Rosicrucian does not think evil of others.

Those who think evil of others see merely the evil which exists within themselves reflected and mirrored forth in others. The Rosicrucian is always willing to recognise in everything that which is good. Tolerance is a virtue by which the Rosicrucian is eminently distinguished from others; and by which he may be known. If a thing appears to be ambiguous, he suspends his judgment about it until he has investigated its nature; but as long as his judgment is not perfect, he is more inclined to form a good opinion than an evil one about everything.

10. The Rosicrucian loves justice.

He, however, never sets himself up as a judge over the faults of others, nor does he wish to appear to be wise by censuring the mistakes of others. He does not enjoy gossip, and cares no more about the foolishness committed by others, than he would about the buzzing of a fly or the capers of a monkey. He finds no pleasure in listening to political or personal quarrels, disputations, or mutual recriminations. He cares nothing for the cunningness of a fox, the dissimulation of a crocodile, or the rapacity of a wolf, and is not amused by the stirring up of mud. His nobility of character lifts him up into a sphere far beyond all such trifles and absurdities, and being above the sensual plane, wherein ordinary mortals find their happiness and enjoyment, he lives with those who do not think evil of each other, who do not rejoice about an injustice done to their brother, or make merry about his ignorance, and enjoy his misfortunes. He enjoys the company of those who love the truth, and who are surrounded by the peace and harmony of the spirit.

11. The Rosicrucian loves the truth.

There is no devil worse than falsehood and calumny. Ignorance is a nonentity, but falsehood is the substance of evil. The calumniator rejoices whenever he has found something upon which to base his lies and to make them grow like mountains. Opposed to it is the truth, it being a ray of light from the eternal fountain of GOOD, which has the power to transform man into a divine being. The ROSICRUCIAN seeks, therefore, no other light but the light of truth, and this light he does not enjoy alone, but in company of all who are good and filled with its divine majesty, whether they live on this earth or in the spiritual state; and he enjoys it above all with those who are persecuted, oppressed, and innocent, but who will be saved by the truth.

Edited May 19, 2016 by Bodhicitta

[Bodhicitta]

12. The Rosicrucian knows how to be silent.

Those who are false do not love the truth. Those who are foolish do not love wisdom. The true Rosicrucian prefers to enjoy the company of those who can appreciate truth to that of those who would trample it with their feet. He will keep that which he knows locked up within his heart, for in silence is power. As a minister of state does not go about telling to everybody the secrets of the king; so the Rosicrucian does not parade before the public the revelations made to him by the king within, who is nobler and wiser than all the earthly kings and princes; for they only rule by the authority and power derived from Him. His secrecy ceases only when the king commands him to speak, for it is then not he who speaks, but the truth that is speaking through him.

13. The Rosicrucian believes that which he knows.

He believes in the immutability of eternal law, and that every cause has a certain effect. He knows that the truth cannot lie, and that the promises made to him by the king will be fulfilled, if he does not himself hinder their fulfilment. He is, therefore, inaccessible to doubt or fear, and puts implicit confidence in the divine principle of truth, which has become alive and conscious within his heart.

14. The Rosicrucian's hope is firm.

Spiritual hope is the certain conviction resulting from a knowledge of the law, that the truths recognised by faith will grow and be fulfilled; it is the knowledge of the heart, and very different from the intellectual speculation of the reasoning brain. His faith rests upon the rock of direct perception and cannot be overthrown. He knows that in everything, however evil it may appear to he, there is a germ of good, and he hopes that in the course of evolution that germ will become developed, and thus evil be transformed into good.

15. The Rosicrucian cannot be vanquished by suffering.

He knows that there is no light without shadow, no evil without some good, and that strength only grows by resistance. Having once recognised the existence of the Divine principle within everything, external changes are to him of little importance, and do not deserve great attention. His main object is to hold on to his spiritual possessions, and not to lose the crown which he has gained in the battle of life.

16. The Rosicrucian will always remain a member of his society.

Names are of little importance. The principle which presides over the Rosicrucian Society is the truth; and he who knows the truth, and follows it in practice, is a member of the society over which the truth practises. If all names were changed and all languages altered, the truth would remain the same; and he who lives in the truth will live even if all nations should pass away.

 

These are the sixteen signs of the true Rosicrucians, which have been revealed to a pilgrim by an angel who took away the heart of the pilgrim, leaving in its place a fiery coal, which is now incessantly burning and glowing with love of the universal brotherhood of humanity.

[CelibacySeeker]

That's bs.

[manitou]

The commonality to Morals and Dogma by Albert Pike, in which he elucidates each degree of Freemasonry and the character requirements for each, is astoundingly similar to that which you have posted.  But why should that be surprising?  The Inner journey to True Self must certainly cut through all those qualities which you have just enumerated, as do the 33 degrees of Freemasonry.  In fact, the 33rd chapter of the book is non-existent; it only goes up to 32.  The 33rd cannot be put into words, much as the Dao not being able to be spoken of.

 

I have a problem with one statement in the above 16 requirements, and it is probably only from my own lack of understanding:

 

 

4. The Rosicrucian does not Boast.

He knows that man is nothing but an instrument in the hands of GOD, and that he can accomplish nothing useful by his own will; the latter being nothing but the will of GOD perverted in man. To GOD he gives all the praise, and to that which is mortal he gives all the blame. He is in no inordinate haste to accomplish a thing, but he waits until he receives his orders from the Master who resides above and within. He is careful what he speaks about, and uses no unhallowed language.

 

It rubs up against me because it places God as 'the other'.  To me, it's all God, no hierarchy involved, merely Is-ness.  When it says, to God he gives all the praise, and to that which is mortal he gives all the blame. In my view, there is no praise nor blame, no good or bad.  That is to live in duality.  It all just Is - all is One, with two sides.  The light of the yang, the shadow of the yin; but the necessary interplay of both.

 

Perhaps you can help me understand this.  a very excellent thread, Bodhicitta.  Thank you for taking the time to relay all this.

[Bodhicitta]

manitou: It rubs up against me because it places God as 'the other'.  To me, it's all God, no hierarchy involved, merely Is-ness.  When it says, to God he gives all the praise, and to that which is mortal he gives all the blame. In my view, there is no praise nor blame, no good or bad.  That is to live in duality.  It all just Is - all is One, with two sides.  The light of the yang, the shadow of the yin; but the necessary interplay of both.

 

Duality of our inner Divine and personality is a psychological fact, even if we intellectually know 'all is God'.  Only on the rare occasions when we experience the One does duality disappear.  The other exception, I would guess, would be an advanced Sage or Bodhisattva who can, at will, know Unity.

[Michael Sternbach]

It rubs up against me because it places God as 'the other'.  To me, it's all God, no hierarchy involved, merely Is-ness.  When it says, to God he gives all the praise, and to that which is mortal he gives all the blame. In my view, there is no praise nor blame, no good or bad.  That is to live in duality.  It all just Is - all is One, with two sides.  The light of the yang, the shadow of the yin; but the necessary interplay of both.

 

This is "Victorian age" esotericism - pretty dualistic, like most books written around the time.

[CelibacySeeker]

It rubs up against me because it places God as 'the other'.  To me, it's all God, no hierarchy involved, merely Is-ness.  When it says, to God he gives all the praise, and to that which is mortal he gives all the blame. In my view, there is no praise nor blame, no good or bad.  That is to live in duality.  It all just Is - all is One, with two sides.  The light of the yang, the shadow of the yin; but the necessary interplay of both.

 

 

Because you are female which do not understand things like that but treat own feeling as a some kind of truth. That's typical women misunderstanding "no hierarchy, all it's god" and stuff like this. That's BS. 

 

You reflect only your own female biology on the image of god, you insecures and stuff like this but this is just distortion, if you want see the truth of this you need to become "all god" or whatever bs you saying around. That's romantic foolishness. That's why buddha said that women can't become buddhas. (but yet they can if they can transcend their own romantic bs)

Edited May 20, 2016 by CelibacySeeker

[blue eyed snake]

Because you are female which do not understand things like that but treat own feeling as a some kind of truth. That's typical women misunderstanding "no hierarchy, all it's god" and stuff like this. That's BS. 

 

You reflect only your own female biology on the image of god, you insecures and stuff like this but this is just distortion, if you want see the truth of this you need to become "all god" or whatever bs you saying around. That's romantic foolishness. That's why buddha said that women can't become buddhas. (but yet they can if they can transcend their own romantic bs)

 

there are still some things you have to learn,

 

one of them ordinary politeness....

[manitou]

Because you are female which do not understand things like that but treat own feeling as a some kind of truth. That's typical women misunderstanding "no hierarchy, all it's god" and stuff like this. That's BS. 

 

You reflect only your own female biology on the image of god, you insecures and stuff like this but this is just distortion, if you want see the truth of this you need to become "all god" or whatever bs you saying around. That's romantic foolishness. That's why buddha said that women can't become buddhas. (but yet they can if they can transcend their own romantic bs)

 

I think I see why you're a celibacy seeker, lol.  Actually, I'm guessing you don't have to seek it at all.  It probably comes to you on the natch.

Edited May 20, 2016 by manitou

[CelibacySeeker]

It's not your fault "god made you" that way so you just obey your own biological and hormonal brain reactions but at least be conscious of that and do not treat it spiritual at all. 

[manitou]

It's not your fault "god made you" that way so you just obey your own biological and hormonal brain reactions but at least be conscious of that and do not treat it spiritual at all. 

 

 

Please re-read my prior post about Is-ness.  Non duality.  I think you read it wrong.  You're coming at me rather harshly.

 

I can see from your mention of women not being capable of becoming Buddhas, that you are a bit out of balance with all this.  I also see that you are desirous of attaining Buddhahood in this lifetime.  Seeking celibacy is fine if one comes at it from a position of balance; ie. one has found their balance with their sexuality, has engaged in healthy sexual behavior, is sated, and has decided to walk away from it because it is a distraction.  Perhaps this is helpful in achieving Buddhahood, I don't know.  There are others here who know more than I about this.

 

However, I do know that if one approaches Celibacy because they are confused about their sexual balance, and they come at it from a position of misogyny,  that's not going to lead to Buddhahood. One cannot achieve Buddhahood through aversion, which is what you are trying to do. What it leads to are what sometimes happens in the Catholic Church - where men who are uncomfortable with their own sexuality and escape the question altogether by going into the monastery.  I think this explains much of the problem within molestation within that institution.  The piper must be paid at some point in time.

 

I know you don't want to take any advice from a woman, but please consider going back and reexamining your relationship with your mother.  I don't mean to be unkind here, but your problem is sticking out like a sore thumb.

 

My very best to you.

Edited May 20, 2016 by manitou

[Eques Peregrinus]

That women are unfit for spirituality or education is also a rather Victorian idea. It started with the so called "enlightenment" age. Before that time, women were perfectly allowed to take courses at university and there were mystics among them, like Teresa of Ávila or Yeshe Tsogyal.

 

On the idea of the divine union, the idea was also present in the west, but the mystics who openly proclaimed it were prosecuted by the Inquisition. You can look up the free spirit movement, this is a fitting example. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heresy_of_the_Free_Spirit)

 

Or there is Eckhart:

The eye through which I see God is the same eye through which God sees me; my eye and God's eye are one eye, one seeing, one knowing, one love.

Meister Eckhart

 

[Nungali]

The commonality to Morals and Dogma by Albert Pike, in which he elucidates each degree of Freemasonry and the character requirements for each, is astoundingly similar to that which you have posted.  But why should that be surprising?  The Inner journey to True Self must certainly cut through all those qualities which you have just enumerated, as do the 33 degrees of Freemasonry.  In fact, the 33rd chapter of the book is non-existent; it only goes up to 32.  The 33rd cannot be put into words, much as the Dao not being able to be spoken of.

 

I have a problem with one statement in the above 16 requirements, and it is probably only from my own lack of understanding:

 

 

4. The Rosicrucian does not Boast.

He knows that man is nothing but an instrument in the hands of GOD, and that he can accomplish nothing useful by his own will; the latter being nothing but the will of GOD perverted in man. To GOD he gives all the praise, and to that which is mortal he gives all the blame. He is in no inordinate haste to accomplish a thing, but he waits until he receives his orders from the Master who resides above and within. He is careful what he speaks about, and uses no unhallowed language.

 

It rubs up against me because it places God as 'the other'.  To me, it's all God, no hierarchy involved, merely Is-ness.  When it says, to God he gives all the praise, and to that which is mortal he gives all the blame. In my view, there is no praise nor blame, no good or bad.  That is to live in duality.  It all just Is - all is One, with two sides.  The light of the yang, the shadow of the yin; but the necessary interplay of both.

 

Perhaps you can help me understand this.  a very excellent thread, Bodhicitta.  Thank you for taking the time to relay all this.

 

 

Its like that as it was harvested by hartman and others FROM those rights. Also there are R+C degrees in Freemasonry. Its very post Victorian old school Christian based 'mysticism' cribbed from pretty sraid sources with no real deep content.  Although, similar I find Steiner's 'Theosophy of the Rosicrucian better. At least one can tell in reading it that Steiner is writing from a (his own) contemporary, 'real' experience  ( when he explains the effects each stage of R+C initiation has ) , but still this is based on a version of RC Freemasonry. 

 

The 'separated God' thingo ?  Well, it's Christian based and it is duality .... if you want it explained, get ready for a whole lot of weird and different concepts  ( based on 'fall' and 'guilt' and the 'need' for retribution spiritually .....  the above  Christian mysticism focuses less on that and more on the love side of their duality, but it is a basic underpinning to their philosophy that, without understanding - well, some type of understanding - their other concepts dont make sense at all .....  nor do the basic ones to me ) 

[Nungali]

Because you are female which do not understand things like that but treat own feeling as a some kind of truth. That's typical women misunderstanding "no hierarchy, all it's god" and stuff like this. That's BS. 

 

You reflect only your own female biology on the image of god, you insecures and stuff like this but this is just distortion, if you want see the truth of this you need to become "all god" or whatever bs you saying around. That's romantic foolishness. That's why buddha said that women can't become buddhas. (but yet they can if they can transcend their own romantic bs)

 

 

Well ...... hello there .... welcome, step on through      

 

 

(We gonna have fun with this guy ! )

[Nungali]

there are still some things you have to learn,

 

one of them ordinary politeness....

 

 

I am wondering if his name has to do with this fear  he has ? 

[Nungali]

I think I see why you're a celibacy seeker, lol.  Actually, I'm guessing you don't have to seek it at all.  It probably comes to you on the natch.

 

  

 

Could be more bad grammar and spelling - he might have meant celebrity seeker ?    

[Nungali]

It's not your fault "god made you" that way so you just obey your own biological and hormonal brain reactions but at least be conscious of that and do not treat it spiritual at all. 

 

You do realise you yourself are having your own type of  hormonal brain reactions ..... dont you ? 

[Nungali]

....

I know you don't want to take any advice from a woman, but please consider going back and reexamining your relationship with your mother.  I don't mean to be unkind here, but your problem is sticking out like a sore thumb.

 

My very best to you.

 

 

yes, I was about to mention that ..... sore thumb indeed ! 

 

 

Only yesterday I put this up  ..... must be precognition  !  

 

 

 

[Tibetan_Ice]

...

That's why buddha said that women can't become buddhas. (but yet they can if they can transcend their own romantic bs)

Did Buddha really say that? I think not.

 

Maybe you could read the whole page to get a better insight...

 

https://bhikkhucintita.wordpress.com/home/topics-in-the-dharma/uposatha-1272012/

 

 

Women’s potential for awakening.

 

Getting to the core issue of Buddhist practice the Buddha stated unequivocally that women have the same potential for awakening that men have.

 

Women, Ananda, having gone forth are able to realize the fruit of stream-attainment or the fruit of once-returning or the fruit of non-returning or arahantship.

 

In an early text we have an even clearer statement of the complete irrelevance of gender to attainment. This tells of the nun Sona’s encounter with Mara, who characteristically tries to dissuade her from the path, in this case claiming a woman cannot attain awakening. Sona, knowing better, replies,

 

What does womanhood matter at all, when the mind is concentrated well, when knowledge flows on steadily as one sees correctly into Dhamma. One to whom it might occur, ‘I am a woman’ or ‘I am a man’ or ‘I’m anything at all’ is fit for Mara to address. – SN 5.2

 

The Buddha elsewhere attests to the great number of awakened women disciples.

 

Have you ever heard of Dipa Ma? Most people would be so lucky as to have achieved her level of realization.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dipa_Ma

 

http://www.amazon.com/Dipa-Ma-Legacy-Buddhist-Master/dp/0974240559/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

 

http://www.thedaobums.com/topic/37948-dipa-ma/#entry616512

 

Finally, here is a book I hold dear. It is a compilation of female Bon practitioners whom achieved rainbow body.

 

http://www.amazon.com/Heart-Essence-Khandro-Experiential-Lineage-Holders/dp/8170262828

 

Edited May 20, 2016 by Tibetan_Ice

[CelibacySeeker]

1 female for 1000 other men mr. straw man. I'm not against women per se btw.

 

Buddha said that introducing women to buddha dharma will make dharma ending age soon by 500 years and women in classic thought cannot achieve realization. but I do not agree with it in the fixed term. Buddha said that I think because of emotional attachment to the ideas about spirituality not walking the spiritual way the way it is but distorting it with emotions and romantic views. 

 

Dipma is very yang-ish so it's cannot be treated like women really, she do not even look like women.

Edited May 20, 2016 by CelibacySeeker

[Tibetan_Ice]

1 female for 1000 other men mr. straw man. I'm not against women per se btw.

 

Buddha said that introducing women to buddha dharma will make dharma ending age soon by 500 years and women in classic thought cannot achieve realization. but I do not agree with it in the fixed term. Buddha said that I think because of emotional attachment to the ideas about spirituality not walking the spiritual way the way it is but distorting it with emotions and romantic views.

 

Dipma is very yang-ish so it's cannot be treated like women really, she do not even look like women.

References?

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_Buddhism.

Limitations on Women's Attainments in Buddhism Edit

According to Bernard Faure, "Like most clerical discourses, Buddhism is indeed relentlessly misogynist, but as far as misogynist discourses go, it is one of the most flexible and open to multiplicity and contradiction."[16]

 

In the Buddhist tradition, positions of apparently worldly power are often a reflection of the spiritual achievements of the individual. For example, any gods are living in higher realmsthan a human being and therefore have a certain level of spiritual attainment. Cakravartinsand Buddhas are also more spiritually advanced than an ordinary human being. However, as Zen nun Heng-Ching Shih states, women in Buddhism are said to have five obstacles, namely being incapable of becoming a Brahma King, Sakra, King Mara, Cakravartin or Buddha.[15] This is based on the statement of Gautama Buddha in the Bahudhātuka-sutta of the Majjhima Nikaya in the Pali Canon that it is impossible that a woman should be "the perfectly rightfully Enlightened One", "the Universal Monarch", "the King of Gods", "the King of Death" or "Brahmaa".[17] However, it is important to note that the corresponding text within the Madhyama Agama does not include these lines at all, leading some scholars to speculate whether the lines were a later revision.[18] Earlier limitations on attainment of Buddhahood by women were abolished in the Lotus Sutra which opened the direct path to enlightenment for women equally to men.[19] According to Nichiren” "Only in the Lotus Sutra do we read that a woman who embraces this sutra not only excels all other women but surpasses all men".[20]

 

 

(Bolding is mine for emphasis on the fact that a "later revision is probably something that the Buddha did not say but was added later for effect, not authentic)

[Aetherous]

It rubs up against me because it places God as 'the other'.

 

God is certainly other than ourselves as human beings. To say "I am God" is ridiculous - most people can't even control their own emotional reactions and thoughts, much less how events turn out in the external world.

 

When it says, to God he gives all the praise, and to that which is mortal he gives all the blame. In my view, there is no praise nor blame, no good or bad.  That is to live in duality.

 

From what I've read, Rosicrucians would be strongly opposed to a philosophy that says nothing is good or bad.