3bob Posted June 3, 2016 a requote : By Yutang Lin "Teaching of "Non-form" indicates non-attachment to form.Misinterpreted, it is adopted as holding to absence of form.Abiding in no forms at all, one falls into the abyss of void.Only in no grasping to form or non-form lies true liberation". I'd add a spin off of this quote by saying - only in no grasping (which can be a form of fear) to life or death lies true liberation 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dust Posted June 5, 2016 So, we can't say we're 'liberated' until we can honestly say we have no fear of death? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3bob Posted June 5, 2016 who or what is it that fears? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted June 5, 2016 That quote doesn't sound like anything Lin would have translated from Taoism but he did translate a lot of other texts as well so it may be that the quote is in a text of Buddhist thought or perhaps a general discussion of Eastern thought. However, the last line, I think is valid as viewed from either a Buddhist or Taoist perspective. And true, I think, from a certain perspective, if we have already overcome the fear of death there are no longer limits to our life. And yes, this would allow for true liberation (or freedom). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taoist Texts Posted June 5, 2016 I'd add a spin off of this quote by saying - only in no grasping (which can be a form of fear) to life or death lies true liberation that would be "Abiding in no forms at all, one falls into the abyss of void." so...no. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dust Posted June 5, 2016 who or what is it that fears? A better word, for me at least, is disquiet. I couldn't explain to you precisely who or what "I" am, but disquiet is felt nonetheless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites