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Is Dzogchen about cultivation? Or should the teachings just not exist.

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Would like to read this when i have time... 

 

 

The fact that the ultimate dzogchen practice thogal is plain and simple energy cultivation

also becomes obvious when you consider that you have to use certain specific postures

to manipulate your internal energies in certain ways (see quote from Dudjom Lingpa below).

If the claims of diverse other posters this thread about the nature of dzogchen would be true,

why would these postures for energy manipulation be necessary for thogal practice?

http://www.theopendoorway.org/Dzogchen-Thodgal.htm

 

To practice these instructions, at the outset you must firm up your posture, for if this is not done, the absolute nature, bindus, and the vital energies will be dispersed in all the channels and elements of the body, and they will not manifest. As an analogy, if a snake is not squeezed, its limbs will not become evident, but if it is, they appear. The posture is accordingly of tremendous importance.

First, the lion's posture is as follows. Join the soles of your feet in front of you. Plant your vajra-fists on the ground between your legs, and look up into the sky. That is the dharmakaya posture and gaze. For the sambhogakaya posture, plant your knees and elbows on the ground and support your cheeks with your palms. Point the soles of your feet outward, and gaze directly in front of you. However, if appearances of the clear light do not manifest, alternately run your gaze to the left and right and up and down. Rest your gaze wherever those appearances are most clear. For the nirmanakaya posture plant the soles of your feet on the ground, press your chest against your knees and clasp your knees with both hands while interlacing your fingers. Straighten your spine, and gaze downwards.

Here is the significance of those postures. With the dharmakaya posture, the soles of the feet are joined in order to constrain the afflictive vital energies in their own place. The vajra-fists are placed on the ground to cut off the pathways of the afflictions. The gaze is directed upwards to open the vision of primordial wisdom. With the sambhogakaya posture, pointing the soles outward causes the vital energies to flow easily. Pressing your knees against your chest balances the heat and cold elements of the body. Pointing your knees and elbows at the ground blocks the impure apertures. Supporting your cheeks with your palms balances bliss and emptiness. By directing your gaze straight in front of you, primordial wisdom settles in its own luminosity. With the nirmanakaya posture, the soles of your feet press on the air mandala in order to suppress the power of the karmic vital energies. By pressing together the fire mandala of the thighs and the fire mandala of the belly, the impure vital energies of samsara are extinguished right where they are. By pressing together the water mandala of the knees and the fire mandala of the palms, the heat and cold elements of the body are balanced. By pressing together the fire mandala of the palms and the fire mandala of the armpits, cold disorders are dispelled. By pressing together the water mandala of the backs of the hands and the water mandala of the throat, heat disorders are dispelled. By gazing downwards, the eye of omniscience is opened. Even if you look straight ahead or turn your gaze upwards, the eye of omniscience is still opened, so there is no difference. You may direct your gaze wherever you find the greatest clarity.

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Hum hum!

As for the substantial head of the Buddha,

Hum hum!

I shall sever this deception which is a mara above you!

Hum hum!

Enemies, demons, adverse companions, and your environment consist of delusive experiences of dualistic grasping of thoughts.

Hum hum!

Do not regard this as being other than reification, other than grasping onto true existence.

Hum hum!

I shall destroy this deception which is a mara below you!

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Hum hum!

As for the substantial head of the Buddha,

Hum hum!

I shall sever this deception which is a mara above you!

Hum hum!

Enemies, demons, adverse companions, and your environment consist of delusive experiences of dualistic grasping of thoughts.

Hum hum!

Do not regard this as being other than reification, other than grasping onto true existence.

Hum hum!

I shall destroy this deception which is a mara below you!

 

Did you write that one? Reads as if it were written in the 'dark ages'.

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