Cheshire Cat Posted June 13, 2016 Emotional suppression is the entirety of it. Recent medical research has concluded that infrequent ejaculation leads to a higher incidence of prostate cancer. Â Science never concludes. Today, they think it's so and tomorrow they'll discover something different. Â In the early 1900s, a radioactive ceramic water jar was marketed to the U.S. public as a health boon. After a few decades, they discovered that uranium ore isn't that good for you. Â http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/01/100118-radiation-toxic-water-revigator/ Â Science provides provisional truth and not definitive answers. Â Wear her out with orgasm after orgasm, using all available methods...keep sticking to your guns. If she still complains, ask her if that 6 seconds of emission is really that pivotal a thing to get upset about in a relationship. If she says yes, well... move on...move on... Â I think that it's not that easy. If the woman wants the semen, she get the semen one way or another. Sexual intercourse without ejaculation requires a certain degree of mutual cooperation. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Michael Sternbach Posted June 13, 2016  You should totally break up with her. Find a girl who hates you coming. That's good chemistry if she hates your chemistry I mean. If she wants to wear a hijab that is good for manly strength also.  #neverejaculate #power #terminator  Better yet a chastity belt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheshire Cat Posted June 13, 2016 "The foolish student hears of the Tao and laughs aloud." (Lao Tzu, 6th century BC) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted June 13, 2016 Science never concludes. Today, they think it's so and tomorrow they'll discover something different. Â In the early 1900s, a radioactive ceramic water jar was marketed to the U.S. public as a health boon. After a few decades, they discovered that uranium ore isn't that good for you. Â http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/01/100118-radiation-toxic-water-revigator/ Â Science provides provisional truth and not definitive answers. Â Â I think that it's not that easy. If the woman wants the semen, she get the semen one way or another. Sexual intercourse without ejaculation requires a certain degree of mutual cooperation. Â You should read what I wrote. I said "increase" as opposed what you thought I meant. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted June 13, 2016 The power of so called semen retention is nothing compared to the power of the universal life force. Stop wasting your time with pathetic little techniques. I studied with Mantak Chia over thirty years ago and tried all this nonsense and found it wanting and a dead end. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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ralis Posted June 13, 2016 It's not a technique it's a personal preference. I can feel my self low and lethargic if I release too often. You may not but I do. So I prefer to do it moderately. The problem is my partner seems to be influenced by the pornographic idea of just ejaculating all over the bedroom lol  Actually it is a technique and to feel that way is perfectly normal and not some aberration. I am 65 years old and have no problem whatsoever. If you want some info/references to Reichian work, I will post it here. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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ralis Posted June 13, 2016 I've gone over all of those studies and although they find some cases of increased risk they also were asking old men the amount of times they ejaculated in their early 20s. It was a kinsey study and it was not at all scientifically accurate.  There are other studies to prove it wrong.  With all that said I think the only risk is building up sexually fire and letting it sit there. Thus causing strain and stagnation in the prostste.  When I was abstaining for 3 months I was using prostste massagges. To drain out the excess prostatic fluid. Plus wet dreams which are mostly prostatic fluid cure that problem.  So it's not proven at all that frequent ejaculating prevents prostste cancer. Other studies even found that frequent strain of ejaculating is unhealthy for the prostate. So sorry but I don't believe that myth that doctors and companies throw around in order to get every guy jerking to porn 5 times a day  This was a recent study that I read in the last few weeks. Also there are other studies regarding prostrate cancer which indicated low zinc/high cadmium levels and so forth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted June 13, 2016 That's great. I'm not following your path or mantak chias path. I don't care what doesn't work for you and I'm not practicing anything. When I said semen retention I meant more so moderate ejaculation. Because yes I do feel a difference if I release too often. Â But you are different so feel free to do what ever you want.. why should I care? Â You come on a public forum and expect other dudes here to be sympathetic to whatever you are going through. This is not a forum for therapy or to find a shoulder to cry on. Exactly what did you expect? Furthermore, you must like the relationship and get something out of it, so stop whining. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheshire Cat Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) The power of so called semen retention is nothing compared to the power of the universal life force. Stop wasting your time with pathetic little techniques. I studied with Mantak Chia over thirty years ago and tried all this nonsense and found it wanting and a dead end. Â Semen retention may be a good idea if one knows how -and is able- to transform sexual energy into positive emotional energy. Â Apart from this cultivation skill, moderation is the Dao of good health in my opinion. Edited June 13, 2016 by Cheshire Cat 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) Semen retention may be a good idea if one knows how -and is able- to transform sexual energy into positive emotional energy. Â Apart from this cultivation skill, moderation is the Dao of good health in my opinion. Â Perhaps, but the real power is the universal life force and there are few that understand how to manage it. One can easily be turned into a crispy mess if not careful. BTW, I will not teach this on a public forum since the risks are so great. I know the risks and after being burnt 23 years ago I still have some physical problems. Â Most likely Sri Aurobindo and the Mother were the real adepts at this. Or, at least that is my understanding after reading most of their writings. Edited June 13, 2016 by ralis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheshire Cat Posted June 13, 2016 Perhaps, but the real power is the universal life force and there are few that understand how to manage it. One can easily be turned into a crispy mess if not careful. BTW, I will not teach this on a public forum since the risks are so great. Â What kind of power? Healing power? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Sternbach Posted June 13, 2016 It's not a technique it's a personal preference. I can feel my self low and lethargic if I release too often. You may not but I do. So I prefer to do it moderately. The problem is my partner seems to be influenced by the pornographic idea of just ejaculating all over the bedroom lol Well, if you can hold it that long, why not keep going for hours and then ejaculate (if she still sees it as a necessity). Yes, that may result in a compromise, but I haven't seen any relationships entirely without them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) What kind of power? Healing power? Â It could theoretically be used for anything, but the parameters for using are very precise. It takes monumental insight as to how to pull it off, but I keep working with it. Â Lets face reality! We humans are such a tiny speck as compared to the vastness of whatever this is and the arrogance that one can do anything is preposterous. Â BTW, the 'force' had a severe effect on my heart. I probably should not even be here now, but my will to live is very strong. Edited June 13, 2016 by ralis 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted June 13, 2016 Well, if you can hold it that long, why not keep going for hours and then ejaculate (if she still sees it as a necessity). Yes, that may result in a compromise, but I hacen't seen any relationships entirely without them. Â Compromise and more compromise is the norm in a relationship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted June 13, 2016 You come on a public forum and expect other dudes here to be sympathetic to whatever you are going through. This is not a forum for therapy or to find a shoulder to cry on. Exactly what did you expect? Furthermore, you must like the relationship and get something out of it, so stop whining. LOL Â Â if she's a succubus, and yes they're out there, then she aint fit to be your girl, if you are to be a cultivator. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ilumairen Posted June 13, 2016 I don't see how that relates  You used an internet meme, and comments to it, to back an ill-informed position that resonates with antiquated ideas of women being some sort of vampire like being that seeks only to drain and dominate men.  Yes, multiple times a night every few days would be draining to most men, yet you set that as the standard you've found you can't 'live up to'.. so please stop demonizing women and making noise about your girlfriend not understanding practices you aren't actually following. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Sternbach Posted June 13, 2016 You come on a public forum and expect other dudes here to be sympathetic to whatever you are going through. This is not a forum for therapy or to find a shoulder to cry on. Exactly what did you expect? Furthermore, you must like the relationship and get something out of it, so stop whining. Â A little correction... While it is hardly possible to offer something resembling proper therapy on a message board, there are plenty of examples here for advice that may have therapeutic value. We also sometimes offer towels for those who are crying... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) A little correction... While it is hardly possible to offer something resembling proper therapy on a message board, there are plenty of examples here for advice that may have therapeutic value. We also sometimes offer towels for those who are crying... Â That was very good! The Snoopy beach towel is more than apropos and can soak up gallons of tears. Â Edited June 13, 2016 by ralis 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Songtsan Posted June 13, 2016 I think that it's not that easy. If the woman wants the semen, she get the semen one way or another. Sexual intercourse without ejaculation requires a certain degree of mutual cooperation. Â Not always...use the quick pull-out method, way before the tipping point...make it seem like you meant to do it for other reasons, like switching positions to something non-coital. Â Gain awesome control through practicing daily muscle contractions...know how to focus on the right areas to keep the energy from going out.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Songtsan Posted June 13, 2016 The power of so called semen retention is nothing compared to the power of the universal life force. Stop wasting your time with pathetic little techniques. I studied with Mantak Chia over thirty years ago and tried all this nonsense and found it wanting and a dead end. Â I don't study with anyone, although I did first start practicing this after reading one of Chia's books, and it makes me feel great every day, like a boxer...certain mindsets and practices are needed though...and one can come every once and a while, but not that often... Â just my experiences Share this post Link to post Share on other sites