Wu Ming Jen Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) 34 minutes ago, dwai said: Again guys...please maintain decorum on this thread. We should not be devolving to this type of discourse. Specifically referring to someone's deity as a prostitute or a porn star. Nothing productive comes out of this. This sub-forum is to discuss Hindu traditions. Hindu traditions do not resort to name calling and maligning deities of any other tradition. PC police I have only insulted white people, woman, and religion so far. If offended I am sorry for you. We have established that mary is not a prostitute and mary is a terrible name for that profession any way it will never work. Transgender deities are way more fun. Depending on sexual orientation and preference they can take any form you like. Edited January 23, 2018 by Wu Ming Jen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dwai Posted January 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Wu Ming Jen said: PC police I have only insulted white people, woman, and religion so far. If offended I am sorry for you. We have established that mary is not a prostitute and mary is a terrible name for that profession any way it will never work. Transgender deities are way more fun anyway. Depending on sexual orientation and preference they can take any form you like. I'm not offended. I find that when we start on this type of discourse, we are effectively on a slippery slope to chaos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wu Ming Jen Posted January 23, 2018 OK, You would like me to stop then to just slow down,I get it. A slippery slope to chaos is tempting but your right I will let it go. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dwai Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Wu Ming Jen said: OK, You would like me to stop then to just slow down,I get it. A slippery slope to chaos is tempting but your right I will let it go. Thanks Speaking about deities though...how many of us have actually encountered any deity at all in a realistic manner? Are deities mainly relegated to intellectual/emotional analysis and connection or are they actually divine beings with whom one can connect? I think that would be a far more interesting topic to discuss. Can we connect to these deities? If so, what are some of the ways in which one can connect to a deity? share some experiences Once we get that, we can probably compare/contrast deities across traditions. @Moderator team can we spin this thread off into a new thread titled "Deities - share ways to connect, and experiences with them"? Edited January 23, 2018 by dwai 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wu Ming Jen Posted January 23, 2018 The reasons deities are so important is a very personal thing. We are never disconnected. The way I connect is to feel the energy I would like to attract and have it manifest in the physical world. The way can not be forced or manipulated it comes from out of nowhere. The formless for me is by far the most powerful, it does not require an image. The mind is at rest with the formless, no thing for mind to attach to. confusion vanishes to dust and the great light illuminates all things .All things are empty I am more interested in what is not there. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3bob Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) an attempt* and potential result is only part of the equation which an earth-bound Being can make - with the major and deciding factor being that of the non earth-bound Deity to make and carry out. (as they are guided by spirit one way or another) *attempts (or ways) are of many forms or methods which I'll leave for someone else to comment on if they will... Edited January 23, 2018 by 3bob 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
s1va Posted January 29, 2018 On 1/21/2018 at 7:53 PM, dmattwads said: To me Yaweh and Brahma are quite different in several ways. Brahma I believe is not really a personality but more of an impersonal force which to me sounds more like the Tao than Yaweh. Also being that Brahma isn't really a personality it would not get jealous or angry, but Yaweh does which would put him more on par with the lower tier gods of Hinduism like Indra and such, or Zeus or Thor of other pantheons. Agreed, on Brahma and Yahweh being different in several ways. However, I think you may be mixing up Brahman (from Vedanta) with Brahma (The creator God or deity). Yes, Brahman has no personality, form or characteristics and is not a deity. Therefore, we cannot compare Brahman with Yahweh. However, Brahma is a deity with form, personality etc. Though Brahma is part of the Hindu trinity (Brahma - Creator, Vishnu - Protector & Shiva - Destroyer), he is not worshipped like other Hindu deities and given a (relatively) lower status compared to Shiva or Vishnu. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maddie Posted January 29, 2018 19 hours ago, s1va said: Agreed, on Brahma and Yahweh being different in several ways. However, I think you may be mixing up Brahman (from Vedanta) with Brahma (The creator God or deity). Yes, Brahman has no personality, form or characteristics and is not a deity. Therefore, we cannot compare Brahman with Yahweh. However, Brahma is a deity with form, personality etc. Though Brahma is part of the Hindu trinity (Brahma - Creator, Vishnu - Protector & Shiva - Destroyer), he is not worshipped like other Hindu deities and given a (relatively) lower status compared to Shiva or Vishnu. You're correct I did mix then up 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites