the verdict

[roger]

NOT GUILTY!

[Jim D.]

I think of O.J. Simpson's acquittal.

[Kar3n]

Only the person who is on trial and the accuser knows the real truth, and then, it comes to the truth as they each see it.

 

Perspective...

[Nungali]

Just dont ask for a decision by jury  ...... OMG! that IS scary ! 

 

Judge to Nungali and other juror's ; " We rely on decisions of guilty or  not guilty  by having them made by a panel of 12 people randomly selected from the community ."

 

ie. people not trained in law, evaluation of evidence, etc, etc .     

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 21, 2016 by Nungali

[Karl]

Only the person who is on trial and the accuser knows the real truth, and then, it comes to the truth as they each see it.

 

Perspective...

There are undeniable facts present in any case; objective evidence devoid of perspective.

[Marblehead]

There are undeniable facts present in any case; objective evidence devoid of perspective.

 

But oftentimes those facts are withheld and therefore the objective truth is never known.

[blue eyed snake]

hah, I read the OP as an answer on the guilt-trips that many people are riding.

In that case not guilty is a refreshing notion, 

[Karl]

But oftentimes those facts are withheld and therefore the objective truth is never known.

Yet those facts remain absolutes. Objective truth IS known by the participants.

 

This is the same argument that goes ' John has a cold and I don't have a cold, therefore there is no objective truth that can be known'. That is a logical fallacy, because John has a cold-that is true for John. It is also true for everyone else that John has a cold. It is an established fact.

[Marblehead]

Yes, the facts are absolutes.  But if they are unknown by others then there will never be a subjective truth.

[Karl]

Yes, the facts are absolutes.  But if they are unknown by others then there will never be a subjective truth.

Quite right, there isn't a subjective truth, truth is objective reality, the facts are the facts. Just as the tree makes a sound when it falls in the forest whether there is anyone to hear it or not.

[Marblehead]

I stand guilty of agreeing with you.

[Karl]

I stand guilty of agreeing with you.

:blinks: :looks around for the rubber chicken: :blinks again: ;-)

[Chang]

If not guilty of the deed you are most probably guilty of the thought.

[Marblehead]

If not guilty of the deed you are most probably guilty of the thought.

 

Hey!  Lighten up on me.  That redhead was just so fine I couldn't help having those thoughts.

[Jim D.]

"The Truth and nothing but the Truth so help you God"

[roger]

I just wanted to add that part of the reason no one is "guilty" is that lack of love and attack are only ILLUSIONS.

 

The truth is no one ever wrongs anyone, in actuality, in ultimate reality.

 

There's only an APPEARANCE of lack of love.

[Jim D.]

"And the humans will give no love"  ("Horse with no name"  America)

[Nungali]

If not guilty of the deed you are most probably guilty of the thought.

 

 

Great ...... now its thought police      

[Marblehead]

Well, it seems creating the moral police worked well so why not have a thought police agency too?

[Brian]

Dream Police are next, with theme music by Cheap Trick.

 

Edited July 22, 2016 by Brian

[Jim D.]

I withhold my verdict on the last comment.

 

Everytime I was "called on the carpet" I was hoping that I was not going to have to defend myself.