Hillary and Trump

[Jonesboy]

Just because:

 

http://youtu.be/aSDzQymhzJs

Edited September 28, 2016 by Jonesboy

[blackstar212]

On Trump not being a part of the establishment. Once you jump in the pool you are wet. This is all a fix anyways. Hillary and Trump are bff's and Trump is helping his friend get elected potus.

Edited September 30, 2016 by blackstar212

[joeblast]

feelin the bern

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-30/hacked-recording-hillary-mocks-bernie-supporters-living-their-parents%E2%80%99-basement

[blackstar212]

feelin the bern

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-30/hacked-recording-hillary-mocks-bernie-supporters-living-their-parents’-basement

there are few liberals in the USA and Hillary is not one of them. Politics in the USA I liken to an airplane. Right wing left wing and the cabin is centrist. Almost all politicians are on the right wing just some are closer to the outside tip.

[wilfred]

[Karl]

there are few liberals in the USA and Hillary is not one of them. Politics in the USA I liken to an airplane. Right wing left wing and the cabin is centrist. Almost all politicians are on the right wing just some are closer to the outside tip.

There are few 'pure' socialists and few 'pure' Christian fundamentalists. There is no left/right. Both pure socialists and pure Christians are about control -the socialists the body, the Christians the mind. In both parties the centrists are a combination of Christian, socialist democrat. The outer edges are the extreme religious republicans (old school old age testament) and extreme socialists which are those lobbying for feminism, BLM etc.

 

The left right dichotomy is false. It always was. The closest we can get is a freedom index. Politicians for small state, real laissez faire capitalism, reduction of welfare, want the fed ended but not officially to become a state institution. Weirdly, those who are socialist actually don't want the state to stop drugs, or snoop on their communications, but call for the state in every aspect of capitalism.

[Karl]

Jesus, why don't they just say "sissy boys with tiny balls" and be done with it.

 

I refuse to watch anything that uses the premise of an ad hominem up front to persuade the argument.

[blackstar212]

There are few 'pure' socialists and few 'pure' Christian fundamentalists. There is no left/right. Both pure socialists and pure Christians are about control -the socialists the body, the Christians the mind. In both parties the centrists are a combination of Christian, socialist democrat. The outer edges are the extreme religious republicans (old school old age testament) and extreme socialists which are those lobbying for feminism, BLM etc.

The left right dichotomy is false. It always was. The closest we can get is a freedom index. Politicians for small state, real laissez faire capitalism, reduction of welfare, want the fed ended but not officially to become a state institution. Weirdly, those who are socialist actually don't want the state to stop drugs, or snoop on their communications, but call for the state in every aspect of capitalism.

perhaps I should say authoritarian vs liberal almost all are authoritarian. There should be left right as well as up down if you want to be technical.https://www.politicalcompass.org/

[Karl]

perhaps I should say authoritarian vs liberal almost all are authoritarian. There should be left right as well as up down if you want to be technical.https://www.politicalcompass.org/

Define liberal. Most liberals today are total statists and are often given the moniker 'progressives' and we know that is a code for socialism which is entirely centralised and authoritarian.

 

The 'authoritarians' are more the kind of people considered narrow minded by progressives - this is very funny to me because they are essentially spirit Mystics (the kind of Christian conservatives that like censorship and strict upbringing in church). Spirit Mystics are all for freeing the body to produce goods (all that hard work ethic and rugged individualism), anti-abortion, against gay marriage.

 

This kind of thing irks the free minded muscle Mystics who are all about 'open' mindedness-turn on, tune in, drop out. These are the people the hark back to the days of Woodstock. They like new age philosophies, drugs, experimenting, but, just try and make them work or take responsibility. These guys are simultaneously pulling against the chains of the state, whilst lobbying the state to stop the vile capitalist exploiters and nature haters ( as they see them). The liberals try and tie up the body from doing much but kind of 'loafing' y'know smoking a spliff, minding the newts, hugging trees and writing crap poetry, or throwing paint on canvas as art-strangely happily taking the 'money' from the 'man' and lobbying for government subsidies for the art industry/environmental group/mung bean research.

[Wells]

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Edited October 4, 2016 by spacester

[rene]

Read this joke tonight, wanted to share...

 

Wanna know the difference between Republicans & Democrats?

 

Trump & Hillary are walking down the street and come up to a homeless person.

 

Trump pulls out his business card, hands it to the guy, tells him to come to his office tomorrow & he'll give him a job; hands the guy $20.

 

They walk on & approach another homeless person. Hillary goes up to him, gives him directions to the welfare office, pulls $20 out of Trump's pocket, keeps $15 for administrative costs, and gives the homeless guy $5.

 

That's the difference.

 

[Wells]

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Edited October 4, 2016 by spacester

[Wells]

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Edited October 3, 2016 by spacester

[Jetsun]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssgtvsGa_Pk

[ralis]

Trump Foundation ordered to stop fundraising by N.Y. attorney general’s office

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-foundation-ordered-to-stop-fundraising-by-ny-attorney-generals-office/2016/10/03/1d4d295a-8987-11e6-bff0-d53f592f176e_story.html?tid=notifi_push_breaking-news

 

 

The New York attorney general has notified Donald Trump that his charitable foundation is violating state law — by soliciting donations without proper certification — and ordered Trump’s charity to stop its fundraising immediately, the attorney general’s office said Monday.

James Sheehan, head of the attorney general’s charities bureau, sent the “notice of violation” to the Donald J. Trump Foundation on Friday, according to a copy of the notice provided by the press office of state Attorney General Eric Schneiderman (D).

The night before that, The Washington Post had reported that Trump’s charity had been soliciting donations from other people without being properly registered in New York state.

 

There appears to be an inherent biological/social need for a strongman that promises to take care of all problems if elected supreme leader. History is replete with such characters which always has lead to mass suffering and destruction.

Edited October 3, 2016 by ralis

[Karl]

Snorrrr........

 

Oh how terrible, luckily the Clinton Foundation is like a saintly organisation untouched by mortal sin.

[ralis]

Snorrrr........

 

Oh how terrible, luckily the Clinton Foundation is like a saintly organisation untouched by mortal sin.

 

It is illegal to solicit donations without proper licensing and oversight. Again you divert the conversation by accusing Clinton and introduce no substantive facts to make a case. The Clinton foundation's records are there for the public to view.

[joeblast]

Trump Foundation ordered to stop fundraising by N.Y. attorney general’s office

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-foundation-ordered-to-stop-fundraising-by-ny-attorney-generals-office/2016/10/03/1d4d295a-8987-11e6-bff0-d53f592f176e_story.html?tid=notifi_push_breaking-news

 

 

There appears to be an inherent biological/social need for a strongman that promises to take care of all problems if elected supreme leader. History is replete with such characters which always has lead to mass suffering and destruction.

somethin somethin illegal donations LMAO  cmon seriously?  juxtaposed with the clinton foundation?!?  :lol:  

 

 

 

do you figure we already have the angle on the million ways hillary is part of the process that has captured the government, so you dont need to pile on?

 

or  do you think there's nothing wrong with  all that hillary's done?

 

(or are you in that hopeless camp that still asserts this is all just some vast right wing conspiracy?  )

[joeblast]

the only area where bernie isnt a letdown at this point is the humor angle

 

 

but the clintons are so egregious, its just not even funny at this point.

 

[Karl]

It is illegal to solicit donations without proper licensing and oversight. Again you divert the conversation by accusing Clinton and introduce no substantive facts to make a case. The Clinton foundation's records are there for the public to view.

Oh the Governments 'licensing' demands ! Cor blimey. Got to fill in all those little bits of paper for the master.

[joeblast]

 

 

It is illegal to solicit donations without proper licensing and oversight. Again you divert the conversation by accusing Clinton and introduce no substantive facts to make a case. The Clinton foundation's records are there for the public to view.

its amusing you can type that and purport to have a straight face whilst doing so

 

just because you refuse to look at all the incriminating evidence because a clinton foundation donor comey said no reasonable prosecutor would put their head on a chopping block and open themselves up to arkancide like this....

 

hahaha....oh boy...it doesnt mean the evidence went away or that it doesnt exist, ralis.  no matter how much cankles & crew wishes they could bleachbit all of their crimes...

[ralis]

I am off this thread for the time being. The childish remarks are rather telling in regards as to the personality makeup of several incessantly posting here. It is no surprise that when the bait is tossed, the fish bite. The big lie which is larger than life always appears appealing and is so easily assimilated by the vulnerable masses. The incremental lies and half truths are the most insidious. Dream on.

 

 

 

 

All this was inspired by the principle—which is quite true within itself—that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.

— Adolf Hitler,

Mein Kampf

, vol. I, ch. X

[joeblast]

lol sorry man...."but he didnt file his paperwork correctly, in time" just doesnt even hold a candle next to selling state secrets in exchange for a donation to your very own personal slush fund that isnt even being used for campaigning.

 

stop trying to deny the existence of her felonies and treasonous acts, go read up and educate yourself about their reality already.

 

 

and no sooner do I write that, and wham, more and more leaks...

 

 

this latest one?  basically exposes the FBI as hillary's co-conspirator here.

 

they gave approval for 2 of her aides to destroy their laptops, once the fbi handled and returned their devices. the fbi destroyed their devices after concluding their investigative portion concerning those devices, the aides were not allowed return of the device even.

 

yeah, nothing fishy there

 

 

 

As part of the Judiciary Committee's ongoing oversight of Secretary Clinton's unauthorized use of a private email server during her tenure as Secretary of State, the Justice Department (DOJ) provided in camera review' of certain immunity agreements. After a specific request from the Committee, based on references made in the immunity agreements to certain "side agreements," DOJ subsequently provided in camera review of those "side agreements" between DOJ, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), and Beth Wilkinson, the lawyer representing both Cheryl Mills and Heather Samuelson. Like many things about this case, these new materials raise more questions than answers. Please provide a written response to the below questions and make DOJ staff available for a briefing on this matter no later than October 10, 2016.

 

1.    Why did the FBI agree to destroy both Cheryl Mills' and Heather Samuelson's laptops after concluding its search?

 

2.    Doesn't the willingness of Ms. Mills and Ms. Samuelson to have their laptops destroyed by the FBI contradict their claim that the laptops could have been withheld because they contained non-relevant, privileged information? If so, doesn't that undermine the claim that the side agreements were necessary?

 

7.   Please explain why DOJ agreed to limit their search of the Mills and Samuelson laptops to a date no later than January 31, 2015 and therefore give up any opportunity to find evidence related to the destruction of evidence or obstruction of justice related to Secretary Clinton's unauthorized use of a private email server during her tenure as Secretary of State.

 

8.   Why was this time limit necessary when Ms. Mills and Ms. Samuelson were granted immunity for any potential destruction of evidence charges?

 

9.   Please confirm whether a grand jury was convened to investigate Secretary Clinton's unauthorized use of a private email server. Disclosure is authorized under Fed. R. Crim. P. 6(e)(3)(A)(i) and (e)(3)(D)

 

https://judiciary.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/100316_Goodlatte-Letter-to-AG-Lynch.pdf

 

 

Assange is supposed to make a showing tomorrow...                                   

 

/popcorns

Edited October 3, 2016 by joeblast

[Karl]

It is no surprise that when the bait is tossed, the fish Laugh out loudly.

Fixed that for you. Bubbles bubbles bubbles :-)

 

 

 

 

Edited to make certain readers know that Ralis did not say it.

Edited October 3, 2016 by Karl

[ralis]

Fixed that for you. Bubbles bubbles bubbles :-)

 

 

It is no surprise that when the bait is tossed, the fish Laugh out loudly.

 

Remove the additional remarks since I didn't write that.

Edited October 3, 2016 by ralis