joeblast Posted October 12, 2016 (edited) Sometimes I get the sense that Karl is actually Karl Pilkington and for ralis, its more important to be anti "right side" or anti "republican" than it is to be anti "treason" or anti "invade other countries" or anti "bribes taken here" or anti "transparency" or anti "globalist" or anti "we dont care for FOIA" Edited October 12, 2016 by joeblast Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karl Posted October 12, 2016 Sometimes I get the sense that Karl is actually Karl Pilkington and for ralis, its more important to be anti "right side" or anti "republican" than it is to be anti "treason" or anti "invade other countries" or anti "bribes taken here" or anti "transparency" or anti "globalist" or anti "we dont care for FOIA" I don't know who Karl Pilkington is, but I'm not him. I just think this croc of shit needs to be ended so we can move on and get the toilet tissue out. A return to the land of the free, it's constitutions and laws not men cannot be too soon in reappearing. It's a process. Obama was a part of that proces and now with Trump we are perhaps on its final gasp. It will be authoritarianism that will eventually strikes the match and blows this current mess to hell and authoritarianism with it. Ralis is an agitator from the hippy era. A kind of James Dean character bent on liberalism by any means. None of it is related to independence, but to a vast hippy commune of tree huggers, poets, artists and academics all benevolent minded collectivists striving for the common good. If that was on offer by way of authoritarianism then Ralis would be for it. Might makes right, or in the case of Ralis it's a kind of freedom less freedom, a utopia governed by minds such as his who will bring love, peace and prosperity to the stupid masses of greedy dumb xenophobic whether they believe in it or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wells Posted October 12, 2016 (edited) . Edited October 18, 2016 by spacester Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karl Posted October 12, 2016 (edited) Well, the only way to change that factor to the better would be eugenics to raise the common IQ... The maximum intelligence level possible for the individual is dependant on how good the genetics of the individual are, if people want to hear that fact or not. You realise this was how I see Ralis and not an opinion on people in general ? Edited October 12, 2016 by Karl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted October 12, 2016 (edited) Donald Trump represents American authoritarianism which is what I have been saying and still no one listens to his rhetoric. http://www.vox.com/2016/3/1/11127424/trump-authoritarianism http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/usappblog/2016/01/27/donald-trump-is-attracting-authoritarian-primary-voters-and-it-may-help-him-to-gain-the-nomination/ Figure 2 – Support for Trump, Cruz, Carson Rubio and Bush by Authoritarianism What a pathetic attempt....look, the dude's a CEO and runs enterprises. Of course he's got a "pimp hand" to run his businesses. More contrivances to protect the globalist favorite and career criminal This includes things like: fraud investigations conflicts of interest political corruption wrongful pardons campaign and finance law violations business & political scandals and the preposterous attempts to blame all the bullshit on the russians so that we can say we were attacked by them and will have an opportunity to wage war on them for the globalists http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-11/new-emails-reveal-friends-bill-got-special-access-state-haiti-recovery-contracts New Emails Reveal "Friends Of Bill" Got Special Access From State For Haiti Recovery Contracts “Need you to flag when people are friends of WJC,” wrote Caitlin Klevorick, then a senior State Department official who was juggling incoming offers of assistance being funneled to the State Department by the Clinton Foundation. “Most I can probably ID but not all.” and then people still want to talk about there not being any voter or electoral fraud despite the evidence “He gave out ID cards, de Blasio. That’s in lieu of a driver’s license, but you can use it for anything. But they didn’t vet people to see who they really are. Anybody can go in there and say, ‘I am Joe Smith, I want an ID card." "It’s absurd. There is a lot of fraud. Not just voter fraud, all kinds of fraud . . . This is why I get more conservative as I get older.” “Voters? Yeah, they should ask for your ID. I think there is a lot of voter fraud. You know, I don’t think it’s too much to ask somebody to show some kind of an ID . . . You go into a building, you have to show them your ID." “They bus people around to vote . . . They put them in a bus and go poll site to poll site.” Asked which neighborhoods, Schulkin said, “I don’t want to say.” When the undercover mentions black and Hispanic neighborhoods, Schulkin responded, “Yeah . . . and Chinese, too.” A vote against hillary is a vote against the globalists but the worrying thing, https://www.znak.com/2016-10-11/rossiyskim_chinovnikam_i_deputatam_rekomendovano_vernut_detey_i_roditeley_na_rodinu russia is expecting hillary to win, and expecting real war to be waged upon them by the globalist forces, soon. they dont say bring yer kids home for their safety no matter where they are in the world for nothin Edited October 12, 2016 by joeblast 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted October 12, 2016 LOL! This propaganda translated into reality just means that Trump and his voters have no interest to go conform with the corrupt established authorities and their agenda to suck the life out of the american middleclass! The established authorities are secretly much more authoritarian than Trump will ever be. But many people don't get that because they are brainwashed and manipulated into believing that they actually want and think what the established authorities want them to want and to think. The minds of many people are infiltrated in such a way that their intellect will deceive them and that they can't trust their wits. You seem to be implying that I am brainwashed and manipulated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted October 12, 2016 so if one thinks the grab her by the p was serious, then you must be seriously offended at this and think these guys are 100% serious and its not comedy at all, they're really serious about this stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVLFgggA4sk same shit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted October 12, 2016 Well, the only way to change that factor to the better would be eugenics to raise the common IQ... The maximum intelligence level possible for the individual is dependant on how good the genetics of the individual are, if people want to hear that fact or not. Eugenics? That happened in your country in the 1930's and 1940's and you still haven't learned! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted October 12, 2016 since this whole thing is a comedy, continuing that context, interpretation and such https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3O7b6lqo-I Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted October 12, 2016 You seem to be implying that I am brainwashed and manipulated. you're sticking up for hillary, I mean, cmon...*looks around, shrugs* what do you want people to think Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted October 12, 2016 (edited) you're sticking up for hillary, I mean, cmon...*looks around, shrugs* what do you want people to think I never stated that I am a Hillary supporter. To assume that is an incorrect conclusion on your part and a really bad move. I am far too complicated for you or anyone else to figure me out. It is apparent to me as to how and why you and a few others participating in this thread behave in the manner expressed. It is a fascinating study in one aspect of human behavior. I have posted hints throughout my many posts over the years. Edited October 12, 2016 by ralis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted October 12, 2016 ok there mr international man of mystery....you were sticking up for her until it got past the point where there was any doubt that she's guilty, you went quiet for a few days, then it has been full on trump attack mode ever since. what do you expect people to think? (do you think they will get the impression that you're savvy and intelligent from that, or will they get the impression that you're uncomfortable even admitting that hillary is guilty as hell, since even as recent as a few pages ago we have quotes from you saying "but that hasnt been proven in a court of law!" about more of her transgressions, I believe the giving favored access to haiti being the context there - which you denied, but then go look at the leaks, and there it all is for everyone to read. so are you merely being intellectually dishonest, then?) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted October 12, 2016 ok there mr international man of mystery....you were sticking up for her until it got past the point where there was any doubt that she's guilty, you went quiet for a few days, then it has been full on trump attack mode ever since. what do you expect people to think? (do you think they will get the impression that you're savvy and intelligent from that, or will they get the impression that you're uncomfortable even admitting that hillary is guilty as hell, since even as recent as a few pages ago we have quotes from you saying "but that hasnt been proven in a court of law!" about more of her transgressions, I believe the giving favored access to haiti being the context there - which you denied, but then go look at the leaks, and there it all is for everyone to read. so are you merely being intellectually dishonest, then?) I am pointing out allegations that are not proven and that is all. Actually, your syntax is usually fractured as in some deconstructed stream of consciousness hurried up style. Disjointed at best, which makes any reasonable discussion difficult. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karl Posted October 12, 2016 See that Avatar Joe ? Did you think it was accidental ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karl Posted October 12, 2016 I am pointing out allegations that are not proven and that is all. Actually, your syntax is usually fractured as in some deconstructed stream of consciousness hurried up style. Disjointed at best, which makes any reasonable discussion difficult. The irony is strong here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted October 12, 2016 See that Avatar Joe ? Did you think it was accidental ? To reiterate, the joker is a complicated ancient archetype. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted October 12, 2016 not proven? all you have in reality is that justice simply has not been served yet, because justice has been corrupted and politically instructed not to function in its normal manner. or are you going to try and defend comey or loretta lynch now? sorry for not taking the time to punctuate for you properly and yes it was written in stream of consciousness fashion, so what? its not like I crammed a shit ton of text into it. I made what should have been ~6 sentences like 3. big deal, so what? oops, that's right, you really dont have much of a leg to stand on in this debate, so now its off to focusing on shifting the focus away from that point... its like shootin fish in a barrel on this topic with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted October 12, 2016 You realise this was how I see Ralis and not an opinion on people in general ? Would you elaborate on that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karl Posted October 12, 2016 Would you elaborate on that? You think of yourself as being peoples intellectual superior. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted October 12, 2016 You think of yourself as being peoples intellectual superior. Perhaps I am. I have an extremely high measured IQ. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karl Posted October 12, 2016 Perhaps I am. I have an extremely high measured IQ. well there you go, things aren't as bad as you thought. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted October 12, 2016 he's smart enough to weasel around and attack others' positions and stay away from mentioning his own, in an attempt to prevent them from being attacked, that's for sure that just screams "I have a solid position that I am confident in" all day long, doesnt it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted October 12, 2016 well there you go, things aren't as bad as you thought. I guess I won't be a victim of Spaceter's eugenics programs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brian Posted October 12, 2016 Time yet to talk about Jeffrey Epstein? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karl Posted October 12, 2016 I guess I won't be a victim of Spaceter's eugenics programs. :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites