Hillary and Trump

[joeblast]

Response timeframes for the nation's nuclear arsenal?  Seriously?

[Karl]

karl, clinton has come out and said her top priority is to expand the war in syria. and altho she has a documented track record of being a serial liar, she is beholden to the military industrial complex and the globalist agenda.

If you read back, you will see I noted that. Hillary is an employee, policy is decided by committee. This is why the foreign policy is so messy. None of the committee can decide the exact course of action, so they just cobble it all together like the house that Jack built. There isn't an idea coming from one persons direction, it's just a lot of disconnected idea thrown in a stew, a Frankenstein policy in which only so much of it functions.

 

You know how, you decide to book a holiday, or do some activity involving friends. If you don't keep a bit of a watch on it, if you just go along piecemeal, instead of going to Ibiza for some Sun, sand and relaxation, you end up in Islington because it also has an 'I' in the name and there are bars there. It's raining all the time and it turns out that you end up dashing around trying to get a cab, you didn't find a beach, but there's a park with a sandpit which reeks of tramps unrine. It nothing like like you had originally planned, it's a disaster, so you go home and decide to book another holiday.

[Aetherous]

Seriously...who says it was classified info? What evidence is there?

I mean, wasn't such information shared freely on something like Fox's tv show 24?

[Karl]

Great blog video by Lionel. He nails it. Exactly what I think. Win or lose it doesn't matter.

 

[joeblast]

Seriously...who says it was classified info? What evidence is there?

 

I mean, wasn't such information shared freely on something like Fox's tv show 24?

According to Pentagon sources, the information Clinton disseminated publicly is Top Secret intelligence governed under the U.S. Special Access Program (SAP) which dictates safeguards and protocols for accessing and discussing highly classified and Top Secret intelligence. The specific details of the country’s nuclear response time discussed by Clinton, sources said, are only known by a handful of individuals outside top military brass…

 

“Targeting options by ICBM (intercontinental ballistic missiles), air or sea, launch order, launch procedures and response are some of the most secretly guarded tenets of national security and nuclear war policy,” a Pentagon source said. “It’s truly incredible that (nuclear) response time as part of an ERO (Emergency Response Option) is now out there in the public domain to our adversaries.”

 

 

 

 

Since nuclear response is part of the sensitive national plan for nuclear war operations, all of its schematics are covered under both “Intelligence SAPs” and “Operation and Support SAPs,” sources said. Both contain Top Secret information.

 

 

 

 

A former Navy SEAL officer said the statement appears to be a "direct violation of US national security protocols and governing law. Our country has no greater secrets than those that protect our strategic nuclear deterrence capability."

 

 

 

 

But of course Snopes backs up Hillary since snopes is "curated fact-checking", noting that someone mentioned  a similar timeframe some years back but there has basically been no confirmation aside from that....well....outside of Hillary's confirmation of it the other night.

[Aetherous]

I thought the Snopes article was pretty excellent, actually. Good to read the links contained in it. Anyone can claim to be a Pentagon source.

Also, good to consider that these supposed Pentagon sources verifying that it was top secret isn't such a great idea, either. "Yes we confirm that our enemies shouldn't know this." Gee, thanks.

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[blackstar212]

I thought the Snopes article was pretty excellent, actually. Good to read the links contained in it. Anyone can claim to be a Pentagon source.

 

Also, good to consider that these supposed Pentagon sources verifying that it was top secret isn't such a great idea, either. "Yes we confirm that our enemies shouldn't know this." Gee, thanks.

I am from the Pentagon (trust me) and Hillary did not violate anything of importance.

[Karl]

I'm not convinced she knows anything of importance. Most of the time she seems no more informed than the rest of us except where it's about her own little corner. She seems more 'dress and design' than the main machinery. She is told to say things, which is why she never really gets upset with being questioned. It's only when it gets personal that the anger appears.

 

Anyone watch the full Trump speech at the meal. It was all personal. Trump hit every ball in Clintons corner of the world-election rigging, pay to play, Wall Street speech money, health. Her demeanour really did start to change as his blows went home, Clinton was clearly not comfortable and was struggling to manage her trademark 'laugh it off' toothy grin.

[joeblast]

I thought the Snopes article was pretty excellent, actually. Good to read the links contained in it. Anyone can claim to be a Pentagon source.

 

Also, good to consider that these supposed Pentagon sources verifying that it was top secret isn't such a great idea, either. "Yes we confirm that our enemies shouldn't know this." Gee, thanks.

Yeah, this information is in a "no shit its top secret" sort of category, and even if someone years back alluded to this timeframe, it was just beyond irresponsible to just bring it up like that, tossing facts around to inflate herself, oops, that was a national security secret fact...just totally irresponsible.  she's proven time and again she has no regard for sensitive information.

 

Well, except for information sensitive to herself, she takes steps to safeguard that....but was such a hack she couldnt even do that properly and now all that info is all over the world.

[zerostao]

another thing that is in a similar vein that was brought out in the debate was her and obama announcing the upcoming assualt on mosul 3 months in advance..she hung her head when trump scolded her over that. isil leaders were there all ripe for the taking,,,,,

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-general-claims-leaders-abandoning-mosul-161514664.html

[joeblast]

that was just a cue for the ISIS fighters to abandon Iraq and head to Syria where the real battle needs to be won for the forces of globalism.

 

 

So, we have heavily armed police showing up outside the embassy in london,

 

 

PHOTO: Heavily armed 'police' appear outside Ecuadorian Embassy in London where Julian Assange has political asylum (photo, Tuesday morning) pic.twitter.com/EOfsrmi3t2

— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) October 21, 2016

and a concurrent DDoS attack on internet DNS servers

 

 

nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh just a coincidence

 

 

maybe they'll say 1979 was a precedent

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[Aetherous]

she's proven time and again she has no regard for sensitive information.

I totally agree to that.

[Wells]

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[blackstar212]

Well, that's an oxymoron!

Thanks for the confirmation, genius!

So, do you get $16/hour from Hillary for your propaganda and deception work in this forum

like the other Hillary internet trolls?

Ummm it's $16.25.

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[silent thunder]

I see slaves... everywhere

arguing over which master they should serve.

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[joeblast]

 I'm curious how they deflated hillary like a patriots football the other night at the debate, did they inject her with dessicants or something?

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[thelerner]

Massive voter / election fraud already happened before in US presidential elections.

Here is the proof.

And they are preparing to do it again.

They will rig the election.

cool.  its amazing watching Trump sabotage his own campaign, spreading rumors that will cause his most faithful followers not to bother to vote. 

 

In the primaries he achieved a Pyrrhic victory.  Winning but creating enemies, among 20 to 30% of the US constituents who are minorities (Blacks, Latino's, strangely Native Americans also have huge disdain for Trump) and his own party members calling them juvenile name calling and creating bizarre conspiracy theories, ie his opponent's father may have been involved in assassinating JFK!!  Now in the main election he's going for a Pyrrhic 'defeat' not just losing but taking down Republicans on the same ticket. 

[Wells]

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[thelerner]

blackstar212's true intentions can be easily determined through logic,

despite his ambiguity, diversion tactics, irony and hiding in plain sight.

hmnn, I think his true intention is calling it, like he sees it. 

 

What you gonna do in 19 days after Trump goes down in flames, because of all the kindling he himself created?  You realize that his chance of losing is about 90% right now.  Much as he shows off polls that show him winning and his followers gobble them up, he tends to only use those that allow people to vote as often as they want.  The scientific polls all show him going down in defeat, with the biggest question being- will it be a landslide? 

 

There's still a small chance he'll win, but I get the feeling his desperation will turn to firing more campaign managers, pissing off more running Republicans and getting increasingly shrill and outlandish.  In this election cycle he will be the biggest loser.