joeblast Posted November 21, 2016 Say what? So we can talk about all kins of government malfeasance, but talking about their malfeasance where it concerns pedophilia is verboten to speak of? what in the ...? makes zero sense, bro. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted November 21, 2016 So yeah, go delete the thread, after the excuse was well that's OT for this thread? Why are you helping cover up pedophilia, dawei???? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted November 21, 2016 Not even put into the Pit - fucking deleted!!! Reprehensible, Dawei. Reprehensible. I'd think people would be offended by pedophilia, not oh shit this isnt a good subject let's help cover it up so that nobody talks about it. that's fucked up, dude. I thought there was some sense of a moral compass here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MooNiNite Posted November 21, 2016 (edited) deleted. Edited November 21, 2016 by MooNiNite 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dawei Posted November 21, 2016 As was said... folks who want to talk it, go on other sites... I don't cover it up. I can't cover up the entire internet. I can enforce my interpretation of the rules though. Under Sean's rules, it is forbidden... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted November 21, 2016 thanks for doing your part to help cover up pedophilia, dawei. disgusting. I dont think I really want to be part of a site that wants to help cover this up. as you just did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dawei Posted November 21, 2016 Sorry... it's not a cover-up when someone says there are places to read and participate... that is encourage folks to go read up as they want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MooNiNite Posted November 21, 2016 As was said... folks who want to talk it, go on other sites... I don't cover it up. I can't cover up the entire internet. I can enforce my interpretation of the rules though. Under Sean's rules, it is forbidden... Can we talk about it in the Primordial CHAOS? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dawei Posted November 21, 2016 Can we talk about it in the Primordial CHAOS? Read the link and what 'forbidden' means: http://www.thedaobums.com/topic/42558-off-topic-and-rules-reminder/ It won't be a topic here. Plenty of other sites you can go to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted November 21, 2016 THAT, I find offensive. Sorry... it's not a cover-up when someone says there are places to read and participate... that is encourage folks to go read up as they want. My statements are still 100% valid. Ok to talk about any number of government offenses but we get to this one and you toss TDB rules out the window and just up and delete a thread without even sending it to the pit where basically all "deleted" threads go. So once again you're abusing your authority here. I suppose then that you can take this as my resignation from the place, if you assholes are going to do your part to help cover up the pedophile problem, then that is not something I want any part of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dawei Posted November 21, 2016 THAT, I find offensive. My statements are still 100% valid. Ok to talk about any number of government offenses but we get to this one and you toss TDB rules out the window and just up and delete a thread without even sending it to the pit where basically all "deleted" threads go. So once again you're abusing your authority here. I suppose then that you can take this as my resignation from the place, if you assholes are going to do your part to help cover up the pedophile problem, then that is not something I want any part of. All deleted threads are NOT sent to the PIT... the forbidden ones are completely removed to a staff area so we have a history of who started them. I'm following the rules. I've asked several times others simply do the same. Added: I've linked to the above fact several times and folks have chosen not to read the rules I am referencing. most all of this would be a non-issue if folks just read the rules we post. Note that Sean said 'forbidden' threads are likely deleted and other questionable ones would get moved to the PIT... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted November 21, 2016 (edited) All deleted threads are NOT sent to the PIT... the forbidden ones are completely removed to a staff area so we have a history of who started them. I'm following the rules. I've asked several times others simply do the same. Added: I've linked to the above fact several times and folks have chosen not to read the rules I am reference. most all of this would be a non-issue if folks just read the rules we post. Note that Sean said 'forbidden' threads are likely deleted and other questionable ones would get moved to the PIT... Whatever, you can support pedophilia without me. So long TDBs. Pedo coverup is a bridge too far. Maybe in your sick world, "pedophile" may just be a sexual orientation, but in my world, pedophiles are to be called out, jailed, an removed from their positions of being able to prey on the children of society. Edited November 21, 2016 by joeblast Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bubbles Posted November 21, 2016 (edited) I should probably shut my mouth, but I have a doubt: Reading the rules, I understand that what is forbidden is, for example: pornographic and pedophilic content not talking about it as a subject post.Otherwise there could be an awful lot of threads that should be deleted. I didn't had the time to read joeblast's posts but I guess he wasn't putting pedophilic material online. edited to add "should" in the first sentence Edited November 21, 2016 by bubbles Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted November 21, 2016 (edited) I probably shut my mouth, but I have a doubt: Reading the rules, I understand that what is forbidden is, for example: pornographic and pedophilic content not talking about it as a subject post.Otherwise there could be an awful lot of threads that should be deleted. I didn't had the time to read joeblast's posts but I guess he wasn't putting pedophilic material online. ONE of the links in there was NSFW and I recommended not opening it because it appeared to be underage to me, but with certainty one can not really say since the perspective was a purposeful one that prevented saying for sure....but given that these people are in a pedophile ring... well, the appropriate course of action would have been a mod request to remove said link, if of course that were truly the root of the argument being presented. but since any of us that has been here an appreciable amount of time here know modding here is completely up the the whims of the mods the moment a drop of gray ink hits white, they can just call a spade an apple and delete it, because they ideologically sympathize with some of what the pedophiles have done. Edited November 21, 2016 by joeblast Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bubbles Posted November 21, 2016 (edited) ONE of the links in there was NSFW and I recommended not opening it because it appeared to be underage to me, but with certainty one can not really say....but given that these people are in a pedophile ring... well, the appropriate course of action would have been a mod request to remove said link, if of course that were truly the root of the argument being presented. but since modding here is completely up the the whims of the mods, they can just call a spade an apple and delete it, because they ideologically sympathize with some of what the pedophiles have done. I understand what you are saying and I 100% agree that what is done to children is truly horrifying. but really joeblast, I don't think you can say that mods are sympathizing with what the pedophiles have done. This is an anger triggered statement. Edited November 21, 2016 by bubbles Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted November 21, 2016 dawei even said child porn & child trafficking are non issues to him *shrugs* I find that REALLY fucking offensive. all this shit gets uncovered, but since some people of certain persuasions simply dont want to see the clintons in jail, they'd rather see the systematic abuse of children continue rather than see pederasts get the justice they deserve. that's getting into the realm of SUPPORT, I'd say 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bubbles Posted November 21, 2016 (edited) No offense intended: I am not in the US, but we have the pretty much same disgusting clowns where I live who want to get elected in 2017. People should realize that if Mr X or Mrs Y gets elected it doesn't make such a big difference in the end, because the game is tricked from the beginning. Politics is only a smoke screen : people get polarized like they do in football games so they are trapped into some blinding thinking patterns that prevent them from taking their freedom back. I mean do you guys really think that Mr Trump will change anything? Come on.. Pedophilia is an horrible thing, but I haven't seen much people name and shame it before it was linked to some political agenda, namely Trump vs Hillary. As much as I want to people who commit such crimes to be put in jail, I hope pedophilia is not just a useful mean into some political fight: quickly used, soon forgotten. What I do know is that President X will disappear quickly from the scene but will it be the same with what is done to children? A few years ago, I posted here at TDB about the horror done to women in Congo with some details. My post was removed almost instantly by a mod ( the mod was cat - do you remember her ?) I wouldn't say she was thinking what I was posting about was an non-issue. Edited to add a sentence about Mr Trump. I am done in this thread. Edited November 21, 2016 by bubbles Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted November 21, 2016 No offense intended: I am not in the US, but we have the pretty much same disgusting clowns where I live who want to get elected in 2017. People should realize that if Mr X or Mrs Y gets elected it doesn't make such a big difference in the end, because the game is tricked from the beginning. Politics is only a smoke screen : people get polarized like they do in football games so they are trapped into some blinding thinking patterns that prevent them from taking their freedom back. Pedophilia is an horrible thing, but I haven't seen much people name and shame it before it was linked to some political agenda, namely Trump vs Hillary. As much as I want to people who commit such crimes to be put in jail, I hope pedophilia is not just a useful mean into some political fight: quickly used, soon forgotten. What I do know is that President X will disappear quickly from the scene but will it be the same with what is done to children? A few years ago, I posted here about the horror done to women in Congo with some details. My post was removed almost instantly by a mod ( the mod was cat - do you remember her ?) I wouldn't say she was thinking it was an non-issue. It all started coming out once people started looking at wikileaks...and why id people start looking at wikileaks? because hilllary committed treason and the Law would not go after her. the rule of law failed here, it protected oligarchs yet again. so people like ralis talked about what they tried to pin on DT vis a vis epstein, but when its the clintons, somehow it just doesnt warrant looking into. cankles was a student of alinsky one of the things alinsky taught was to accuse your opponents of your own transgressions, which appears to be what we witnessed, since the girl that DT supposedly raped at 13, her story could not be corroborated and none of the hundreds of other girls interviewed knew who she was, despite a very high % of the rest of them knowing each other, at least being around them. so now we find all this evidence that shows the Franklin case to have never stopped happening, and clintons, soros, involved but since the news painted hillary to be queen mother saint, there's a lot of people out there that are ideologically opposed to believing, or even examining evidence, that the clintons were involved in this. that's about the only justification I saw for dawei removing the pizzagate thread. oh, right *cough* rules....that can be bent and justified any which way that coincides with the whims an ideologies of modmins and still be held up as some sort of "standard" pardon me while I go laugh... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aetherous Posted November 21, 2016 I just view this as a thing kind of like...you wouldn't want to bring the issue up at your family thanksgiving with grandma sitting there. It's just not the place for it...same with TDB.I'm sure there are many forum members who don't want to see it (despite the fact that bringing it out into the open is a good thing, and is potentially saving the lives of many children). People shouldn't be forced to see it, or to have their vibes lowered to the depths by even coming close to the subject. I respect how some people's version of cultivation involves paying attention to good things, primarily.Also, keeping the topic here to be analyzed, I'm sure it would open up a can of worms at some point. Someone on reddit recently posted some of the pictures they hacked and found to that site, regarding this topic...we don't want that here - for anyone to ever see that. It could also potentially bring criminal investigations onto this forum if that were to occur. It's pretty wise to just say "no, none of that here". 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redcairo Posted November 22, 2016 (edited) Joe, I totally get it, ok. But understand that forums are affected by search engine results which will often penalize the crap out of a site for having this kind of content, and the engine or front filters that access it may often exclude it from results, and that's just for the terms present in text here, not counting the 'association' with links that may have far worse in their content. The owner of the forum has to protect the project as a whole. Some of that might be social in keeping the darkest stuff out of focus, but some might merely be keeping the stuff that screws up SEO results off the site. This often goes for drug stuff too. He didn't invent the internet -- we all know Al did, LOL -- but his project has to live within its conditions. A forum I've been in for a decade and just started looking at again a bit, has a thread on this issue (and another) both presented by a guy on video recently. You could register and talk about it there if you wish. The video that adds this topic to the list starts on page 2 somewhere. I'm Red Cairo there as well. http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1144511/pg1 Best, RC Edited November 22, 2016 by redcairo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brian Posted November 22, 2016 Joe, I totally get it, ok. But understand that forums are affected by search engine results which will often penalize the crap out of a site for having this kind of content, and the engine or front filters that access it may often exclude it from results, and that's just for the terms present in text here, not counting the 'association' with links that may have far worse in their content. The owner of the forum has to protect the project as a whole. Some of that might be social in keeping the darkest stuff out of focus, but some might merely be keeping the stuff that screws up SEO results off the site. This often goes for drug stuff too. He didn't invent the internet -- we all know Al did, LOL -- but his project has to live within its conditions. A forum I've been in for a decade and just started looking at again a bit, has a thread on this issue (and another) both presented by a guy on video recently. You could register and talk about it there if you wish. The video that adds this topic to the list starts on page 2 somewhere. I'm Red Cairo there as well. http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1144511/pg1 Best, RC Many sections here are not available to the unregistered visitor and therefore aren't indexed by search engines. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redcairo Posted November 22, 2016 Yes, but the offtopic and general discussion boards are, right? Which is where this is. Unless you're suggesting they make a private board, upon which they could inscribe, "For persons wishing to challenge themselves with a focus on things negative and dark, shocking and depressing, as part of exploring whether this actually assists in the path to enlightenment." I'm just hazarding a guess that it doesn't LOL. Still that hasn't kept me from totally getting sucked into politics this season! RC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MooNiNite Posted November 22, 2016 (edited) New York times Apologizes for being biased and not being honest during the election http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/13/us/elections/to-our-readers-from-the-publisher-and-executive-editor.html However, they edited this version lol! and still make it look like the original. Here is the original: where they claimed to be fair.. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/12/new-york-times-publisher-vows-to-rededicate-itself-to-reporting-honestly.html Edited November 22, 2016 by MooNiNite Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dawei Posted November 22, 2016 Yes, off-topic is available to guests (and bots). At one time we toyed with making off-topic as off-limits to guest but folks complained... It's a fairly basic rule of expectation: start threads that stay within the rules. Something with 50 links that the OP admitted included at least one with a problem, and another member said as much too... and I can guarantee there were others also in the areas linked to as well. This poster, like maybe 2 or 3 others are well known to post on conspiracy or inciting topics. So it was not a surprise but as one staff member said, the response borders on insane. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MooNiNite Posted November 22, 2016 Yes, off-topic is available to guests (and bots). At one time we toyed with making off-topic as off-limits to guest but folks complained... It's a fairly basic rule of expectation: start threads that stay within the rules. Something with 50 links that the OP admitted included at least one with a problem, and another member said as much too... and I can guarantee there were others also in the areas linked to as well. This poster, like maybe 2 or 3 others are well known to post on conspiracy or inciting topics. So it was not a surprise but as one staff member said, the response borders on insane. You know you are going to have to get rid of every topic in Numa Sactuary that has any connotation to sex or reference any private part of the body. You also have to get rid of every topic on sexual alchemy and every topic related to sex. This thread is only the tip of the iceburg my friend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites