Who is a Good Teacher to Learn the Correct Way to Do the Microcosmic Orbit from?

[roycee00]

I've come to the conclusion that Mantak Chia is not a good teacher to learn from. Who would you recommend to learn the Microsmic Orbit from?

[Rakiel]

Spring Forest Qigong has a good reputation on this forum and elsewhere. Although I have practiced the level 1 standing exercises for some time, I am unable to comment on the SFQ Small Universe practice. Perhaps others here who have used it could elaborate a little more on it? Anyways here is a link to the product

 

http://www.springforestqigong.com/index.php/meditation-cds-and-downloads/#small-universe-60

[Wu Ming Jen]

Dr Yang Jwing Ming if in the Boston area. Master Chen, Tao House Colorado, he has a residency program if you are interested in learning a lot more. So where do you live? 

[roycee00]

  On 9/3/2016 at 8:47 PM, Wu Ming Jen said:

Dr Yang Jwing Ming if in the Boston area. Master Chen, Tao House Colorado, he has a residency program if you are interested in learning a lot more. So where do you live? 

Brooklyn, NY

[joeblast]

one of my favorite MCO books was Wu Zhongxian's cosmic orbit qigong - but then again, I never contacted him to see if he figured it out the way I did, his book almost goes there

 

http://www.masterwu.net/MasterWuCosmicOrbitQigong.html

Edited September 4, 2016 by joeblast

[Rakiel]

  On 9/4/2016 at 2:49 PM, joeblast said:

one of my favorite MCO books was Wu Zhongxian's cosmic orbit qigong

Have you seen the accompanying DVD?

http://www.masterwu.net/MasterWuOrbitDVD.html

[joeblast]

I havent - and I like the movement aspect of it - but too much of that makes it a bit too chi-kung-ey  .   still no indications that my interpretation is taught, unless of course that's one of his secret things

Edited September 4, 2016 by joeblast

[RiverSnake]

  On 9/3/2016 at 7:07 PM, Rakiel said:

Spring Forest Qigong has a good reputation on this forum and elsewhere. Although I have practiced the level 1 standing exercises for some time, I am unable to comment on the SFQ Small Universe practice. Perhaps others here who have used it could elaborate a little more on it? Anyways here is a link to the product

 

http://www.springforestqigong.com/index.php/meditation-cds-and-downloads/#small-universe-60

 

Spring Forest also has many awesome Qigong exercises that help circulate chi for free on youtube. 

 

[roycee00]

  On 9/4/2016 at 2:49 PM, joeblast said:

one of my favorite MCO books was Wu Zhongxian's cosmic orbit qigong - but then again, I never contacted him to see if he figured it out the way I did, his book almost goes there

 

http://www.masterwu.net/MasterWuCosmicOrbitQigong.html

Lol, ok, so, what conclusion did you come to when you figured it out?

[joeblast]

this.  eh, single breath loop when you need to do something in particular that involves the path.  12 breaths to cultivate the path itself (but it is of course more than just "cultivating the path itself,") driven by the yinyangness of the dantiens at the phases in question.  but in the larger scheme of practices, a single line should be worked on, and then  2 lines cultivate the digrams, before using 3 (  a preparatory loop also exists,) so that there be some flux in all 3 dts to work with before performing this mco practice.

 

it should go without saying that copious amounts of stillness should accompany strong energetic practices.  flux amplitude is partially a function of depth of stillness attained, so one should be patient and not neglect that aspect of cultivation.

 

I read master wu's book after having figured this out already, but the mudras in the book (and appears that the moving bit in the dvd) fit well, although they arent absolutely necessary for the practice.

 

the way dr yang or chia or sfq teach it, its like stirring cement with a stick when you really need a shovel, at least that was my comparative experience.

Edited September 5, 2016 by joeblast

[GreytoWhite]

There is more than one way to do MCO. I much prefer the internal martial arts over qigong as the MCO is taught very much as physical sensation then and one does NOT have to question if they are just imagining it. Also, don't get stuck on the generic versions of "natural" and "reverse" breathing. If your teacher is good and it doesn't quite jibe with what you've read in a book remember something - as blind men we can't see the whole of the elephant.

 

You're in NY which is chock full of good people to learn from.

 

Frank Allen is old school NY internals. Has a bunch of experience and they do have a qigong class. My sifu talks well of him.

 

http://www.wutangpca.com/what-we-teach.html

 

Tom Bisio is probably one of the best people to teach certain fighting techniques and has a lot of neigong under his belt. He is quite well known for his Filipino arts which sometimes seems like the two are the same when practicing without circle walking. The program he helped devise for Tu Na Si Ba has received great reviews by xingyi practitioners.

 

http://www.internalartsinternational.com/weekly-classes/

 

I Liq Chuan is great and I recommend anyone interested in qigong or neijia arts talk with an instructor of the art. It's very well structured and has skilled people. Sam Chin is invested in passing on his level of skill to his students. It's often describe as taiji body, Zen mind.

 

http://internal-arts-training.com/schedule/

 

James Montalbano teaches Kenny Gong's xingyibagua in NYC but I don't know how to contact him. He has the goods but what I've heard from a fellow kung fu brother is that he just recently started sharing the meaty bits with his students.

 

Serge Augier has a student in NY. I've always found Serge's students to have some knowledge.

 

http://www.daxuannewyork.com/