Kunlun Nei Gung "100 Days" Support Thread

[joeblast]

I just gotta laugh at posting clips of good looking women in a thread dedicated to celibacy

 

On that note, Kunlun has been...'working' every bit as much as SKF ever did for me in that department. But that might just be my current whatever level of practice & physicality...

[Cameron]

Yes but you can just watch the clips of beautiful woman and appreciate their beauty. It doesn't have to go down and want to become sexual.

 

I am trying to get some level of being cool with woman out of the way(as they are everywhere) and on a more open, energetic level than sexual, lust level.

 

Cam

[rex]

Here is Matt with another incredibly fine woman ....

 

This picture looks like two different photos joined together.

[Cameron]

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[SheepishLord]

Yes but you can just watch the clips of beautiful woman and appreciate their beauty. It doesn't have to go down and want to become sexual.

 

I am trying to get some level of being cool with woman out of the way(as they are everywhere) and on a more open, energetic level than sexual, lust level.

 

Cam

 

Cameron, stop embarrassing yourself.

 

Instead of flooding your ludicrous "celibacy support thread" with pix and vids of girls you are lusting after and men who interact well with your daddy-complex you need to accept your lust and then figure out how to transform it.

 

Just take your statement:

 

" I am trying to get some level of being cool with woman out of the way(as they are everywhere) and on a more open, energetic level than sexual, lust level."

 

This statement only makes sense to an insane person.

 

Check this:

 

You only lust after beauty because you are hungry for something. You are hungry for the moment when you first see "a thing of beauty" and there is this instant--this instant that feels so good and YOU WANT IT TO LAST FOREVER.

 

Peak experiences baby, that's what you want. Peak experiences all of the time. Only problem is that you really can't have it all of the time.

 

This is why people are addicted to porn or get into the trap of making babies. Beyond this is the craving to get back to perpetual bliss. People who smoke crack or meth are in the same trap.

 

Now here is a motherfucker I just discovered via a friend that I am trying to study with or set up some sort of seminar. He also teaches Kunlun under the name "bliss exercises:"

 

http://www.nityama.com/blog/table-sessions.html

 

There you go, so you don't think I am some sort of asshole who enjoys beating on you...

[Cameron]

Look,

 

Plato likes Orange Gatorade and I prefer Lemon Lime Gatorade.

 

It seems like a small difference but differences like these can split worlds.

 

ps. Plato is my Tao brother and I have been just messing with him the whole time.

 

I am studying with a man who is called "The Trickster" after all

 

Will be shifting to more level headed, reasonable Cam soon don't worry.

[Sunya]

 

Now here is a motherfucker I just discovered via a friend that I am trying to study with or set up some sort of seminar. He also teaches Kunlun under the name "bliss exercises:"

 

http://www.nityama.com/blog/table-sessions.html

 

There you go, so you don't think I am some sort of asshole who enjoys beating on you...

 

that's nuts

[mantis]

cameron you really need to learn how to listen to advice man, you're too thick headed for your own good.

 

oh great, i click the website and there's a bunch of naked women. celibacy sure is difficult.

Edited December 7, 2007 by mantis

[sean]

Now here is a motherfucker I just discovered via a friend that I am trying to study with or set up some sort of seminar. He also teaches Kunlun under the name "bliss exercises:"

 

http://www.nityama.com/blog/table-sessions.html

Whoah dude. Really weird, I was going to post a link to this same site today. Pretty interesting guy.

 

Sean

[Eric23]

Whoah dude. Really weird, I was going to post a link to this same site today. Pretty interesting guy.

 

Sean

 

I got to get me a new gig!

[Sunya]

oh great, i click the website and there's a bunch of naked women. celibacy sure is difficult.

 

 

i think what Sheepish was trying to say earlier, and i completely agree with him.. is if you can't handle looking at naked women then you shouldn't be celibate in the first place. you gotta get over that need for pleasure and get your mind out of the lower chakras, than celibacy will be a peice of cake

[mantis]

you can do that at the higher levels of celibacy, you have to learn how to control your lust and desire before hand. it is fully possible to look at naked women without dirty thoughts going through your mind but it isn't something someone new to celibacy should be trying out.

[mYTHmAKER]

you can do that at the higher levels of celibacy, you have to learn how to control your lust and desire before hand. it is fully possible to look at naked women without dirty thoughts going through your mind but it isn't something someone new to celibacy should be trying out.

 

 

Dirty thoughts? How about sexual thoughts.

[mantis]

you know what i meant

[Mantra68]

Now here is a motherfucker I just discovered via a friend that I am trying to study with or set up some sort of seminar. He also teaches Kunlun under the name "bliss exercises:"

 

http://www.nityama.com/blog/table-sessions.html

I am rethinking my response to our friend Nityama. He is a good guy and he is doing good work. The video is actually of a group of men and women in a seminar.

 

He will be joining the forum soon to further explain his methods to all of you who are interested in Tantra. He has been doing this Tantric work for over 20 years, so he does have some real ability and experience.

 

Worth looking into.

Edited December 10, 2007 by Mantra68

[sean]

Hmm. This guy was at our San Francisco seminar. We just taught him Kunlun (and now he is teaching it...). Another instant Guru.

 

We do a similar type of energy work with people (like the woman on the table) but we wouldn't put it on the web like that.

 

Kinda not sure what to think. From the information he provides on his site, it seems like he is only concerned with the sexual element and not the higher level experiences, which always raises a red flag for me.

 

He sure seems to be capitalizing on what he learned. His rates are very high.

 

Be careful folks.

 

I'll pass it along to the Master.

Wow, very very interesting. Good to know, thanks.

 

Sean

[yiqili]

Hmm. This guy was at our San Francisco seminar. We just taught him Kunlun (and now he is teaching it...). Another instant Guru.

 

We do a similar type of energy work with people (like the woman on the table) but we wouldn't put it on the web like that.

 

Kinda not sure what to think. From the information he provides on his site, it seems like he is only concerned with the sexual element and not the higher level experiences, which always raises a red flag for me.

 

He sure seems to be capitalizing on what he learned. His rates are very high.

 

Be careful folks.

 

I'll pass it along to the Master.

 

 

also interesting that the woman in the video is naked. . . when she doesn't need to be.

[Mantra68]

also interesting that the woman in the video is naked. . . when she doesn't need to be.

Yeah...we don't do 'em naked.

[yiqili]

Yeah...we don't do 'em naked.

 

 

reading further, i see that this mongoose guy studied with OSHO for a long time. 'nuff said.

[mantis]

also, mikaelz, it is very possible that you may not think anything lustful but your subconscious mind is. this is often the case with wet dreams. a seeming normal situation can arouse deeper centers of the mind. i could click on the website and watch the videos and not be fapping away but deeper in my mind i am feeding a ego of lust, the want to see women, especially naked.

 

meditation has somewhat become a constant task for me and i can usually always see what i am thinking and now is when i notice how many perverted thoughts arise and how lustful and desirous i used to behave. for example, a girl in a class of mine wears her pants low so when she sits the slit of her ass comes out. unconsciously i used to always look and not realize why, i'd just find myself looking randomly. it's lust. you may think it's a.ok and then you wake up wet. this isn't even that hardcore, i almost never watch tv or browse odd sites as they're often flooded with pictures of women with giant breasts and of course as a guy that's the first thing i look at, lol.

 

the only way to keep your seed is through permanent change in behavior. for someone who is starting their 100 days, as is cameron, it does him no good to be looking at those kinds of videos. here is an example of his lust.

 

1.) he finds an attractive actress

2.) he asks for more information about her, who is she, where is she from (ego looking for more to feed itself)

3.) even after saying back to 100 days he posts yet another video of her (proof the ego has been satisfied for now)

4.) the ego comes up and talks to us by saying

Oh, she is just ridiculously cool. I am just going to show this clip to any future girlfriends and ask "Can you be like her?"

and then it weakens and is counter acted with

Am kidding of course every woman is beautiful in a unique,special way.

 

100 days!

 

if you all cannot see how he is feeding into his lust to view women as seductive creatures that lead to voluptuous pleasures then you too will fail in the path of brahmacharya. once you begin to crack the ego of lust and desire then can you live a life of brahmacharya and pure, clean thoughts. it is the same for the road to enlightenment. the same way i broke down and showed how lust is in all of us you can too find anger, greed, jealousy, etc.

Edited December 8, 2007 by mantis

[Sunya]

i agree with you,

i guess coming from my perspective it's different because i really can look at naked women and be okay with it. i've jacked off to so much porn that i'm immune. it's kind of like watching so many violent movies that seeing death doesn't bother you.

 

i don't even find orgasms pleasurable anymore from jerkin. after i'm done i always regret it. its all lust, and after the lust is gone i'm like shit, that sucked. WAY TO GO MIND!

haha

 

but yeah, the path of excess leads to wisdom. some dude named blake said it. maybe you should try just devoting a week to jerking off to pron all day, see what it does to you. i promise eventually you will be immune to it

Edited December 8, 2007 by mikaelz

[mantis]

if i was to masturbate for a week and watch pornography - all of my work up until this point would mean absolutely nothing. i do not think the path of excess leads to wisdom - quite the contrary i think; i think it leads to disappointment. the more you feed something, the more it grows; this is true for our egos as well. while yes, being a virgin and never having a girlfriend can sometimes make me feel needy and there is no doubt about it, it lets me study myself and find my flaws. here is an example of one of my self-analysis; keep in mind this is all in thought usually during meditation.

 

why do i want a girlfriend? i'm not happy as i am now, i am lonely and bored most of the time. why do i want to lose my virginity? i want to experience this great deal of pleasure everyone else is partaking in and that i read about.

 

just by doing that alone i can find out that i need to work on my character and that in reality i'm my own best friend. as for the second part it's all plain lust - the heat and the connection with the opposite gender in the flesh is enough to spark anyones lust; i'm having trouble with this one and i'll plainly admit it. (woah i just had a deja vu like experience lol)

 

this is what i believe we all must do. self-observation to find what you lack in and what you have in excess. buddha was right on point when he said the middle path - you have to have a balance. positive people attract other positive people and positive events so if you feel lonely take solace in your own company and do some ego work.

Edited December 8, 2007 by mantis

[Sunya]

my friend,

i understand how you want to overcome these desires and rise up to a higher plateau, but i assure you it's much easier to just experience experience experience until the very core of your being knows, feels, and understands what sex is. there is nothing bad or 'dirty' about sex, it is beautiful. but i think to make the choice to say no you should experience it and live and see what it's all about.

 

i had a desire to smoke pot, and i did. i loved it, it opened my mind up and actually i'm pretty sure i got into spirituality because of it, but then there came a point where i realized i gotta let go since i'm not getting anything more out if it, i knew this through experience not through listening to those 'this is your brain on drugs' commercials. you gotta know what it is first before you let go of it

 

and believe me, it is true about the path of excess. i jerked off so much that it doesn't even feel good anymore. sure my ego still desires it because the ego is limitless in its desires, but my intellect knows knows knows that i shouldn't do it. and if you keep doing it, the intellect gains more and more power and eventually you can overcome those desires. but you only gain that power through experience, not through theorizing

Edited December 8, 2007 by mikaelz

[mantis]

i am in no way abstaining from sex - from masturbation and ejaculation yes. i simply do not believe in indulging in the hedonistic pleasures of life only to later say i've mastered them. i prefer to master first and then proceed with caution.

[seadog]

I often wonder as an old man what will I look back on most favourably.Making love to beautiful,passionate women,is going to be right up there with laughter with family and friends,wonderful pets I have known,surfing big waves and eating good food made with love.The only reason any of us are here is because our parents had sex plain and simple.We are the miracle of such lustful behaviour.