Cameron Posted November 30, 2007 I am feeling motivated to give this 100 days thing a shot. Would be interested in doing it as a group with other's practicing Kunlun Nei Kung. So, tomorrow is Dec 1st. So basically looking at doing Kunlun for 1 hour a day along with attempting 100 days of retention. So who else is up for it? We can get feedback on our progress and also share any challenges we are having for future generations of Tao seekers interested in doing Kunlun and 100 days. If your in a realationship don't worry about it. Also, I am not talking about doing Kunlun and some form of tantric sex. Am talking about other guys(being single would help) interested in pure celibacy for 100 days. Just not ejaculating itself doesn't cut it. We need to guard our thoughts and actions with intention. No porn, careful as can be not to let yourself go too far in an erotic dream etc. So it would be cool to get atleast a couple other dudes in on this as a support. We can also talk about how 100 days is improving our Kunlun practice. If our feeling of bliss is getting stronger. If our mind is beginiing to feel clearer and our intention and spiritual aspirations more sound. OK! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sunya Posted November 30, 2007 ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i'm on day 8. this is when i usually give up as it gets harder and harder to keep going but i'm trying to maintain vigilance no porn is definetely a good idea. so kunlun level 1 is enough for retention even though you don't consciously do anything unlike say.. microcosmic orbit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cameron Posted November 30, 2007 Keep going man!!!!!!! You will get to the finish line 8 days ahead of us(if anyone else is even interested) Stay strong!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mantis Posted November 30, 2007 tomorrow will be my second week of celibacy ; ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sunya Posted November 30, 2007 this reminds me of that seinfeld episode where they had a bet on who would last the longest, hahah. mantis, have you noticed any changes now that you're not releasing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cameron Posted November 30, 2007 tomorrow will be my second week of celibacy ; ) Are you practicing Kunlun Nei Kung? I really want to keep this thread focused on those doing 100 days and Kunlun. If yes..you are the champion of the group so far and will get to the finish line even sooner than mikaelz!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sunya Posted November 30, 2007 so kunlun level 1 is enough for retention even though you don't consciously do anything unlike say.. microcosmic orbit? cameron? anyone? in pillars of bliss it just says 100 days of celibacy and kunlun level 1, so i assume that kunlun is enough for retention.. but i don't understand how that is so if there is no conscious upbringing of the sexual energy. Recent scholarship suggests the Orbit began as a sexual practice to rejuvenate the brain (huanjing bunaeo) two thousand years ago and evolved to become a spiritual practice as the qi was observed to spiral inside the body. (Pregadio, 2000, 427). Skill in semen retention is essential to the successful male practice of One Cloud's internal alchemy. Other systems of neidangong may require celibacy in the hope that it will result in the indirect or spontaneous redirection of sexual energy to the subtle bodies. But this is a hit or miss proposition, and can result instead in sexual repression http://www.healingtaobritain.com/p67magazi...itualorgasm.htm would kunlun go under the category of spontaneous redirection? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cameron Posted November 30, 2007 I am going off the same info you are dude. So, unless Mantra tells us different. 100 days and Level One is enough. My guess is a solid excercise program would also help the cause. Camsterz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mantis Posted December 1, 2007 ah no sorry i am not practicing kunlun nei kung. mikaelz, yes, i have. i feel lethargic and my vision is somewhat blurred. however, i have read these are common and signs that the egos of lust and desire are dying off as you cease fornication. just to pitch in about sexual repression, it's not repression if you dismantle your desires and lust for sexual intimacy (especially masturbation) at their root and truly wish to be celibate. this requires a lot of thought monitoring and behavioral changes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sunya Posted December 1, 2007 what do you practice mantis? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mantis Posted December 1, 2007 only one of the techniques i practice stems from a system, and it's gnostic in nature. ham-sa pranayama (create & move sexual/creative energy upward) still meditation (just sit and look type of thing) wall gazing (focus on one point on a wall) the ham-sa pranayama was added, my original practice was still meditation and wall gazing for 6 months, of which i have completed 4 on this day. i only added pranayama to ensure that i have no nocturnal pollutions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cameron Posted December 1, 2007 Hmmm. I really wanted to get a small group of practioners..maybe 3 or 4 guys..all doing Kunlun..in on this. But Your still doing the celibacy thing and so far no one else seems to want to do it so I'll take what I can get! Stay focused my other system practicing but still retention attempting brother!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sunya Posted December 1, 2007 (edited) only one of the techniques i practice stems from a system, and it's gnostic in nature. ham-sa pranayama (create & move sexual/creative energy upward) still meditation (just sit and look type of thing) wall gazing (focus on one point on a wall) the ham-sa pranayama was added, my original practice was still meditation and wall gazing for 6 months, of which i have completed 4 on this day. i only added pranayama to ensure that i have no nocturnal pollutions. ham sa pranayama? is it where you breathe in, mentally chant ham, and bring sexual energy up the spine from the perineum to the third eye.. then breath out, mentally chant sa, and bring it down? if so thats a great technique. i would suggest though, that you practice the microcosmic orbit atleast twice a week to work the front channel.. it will help with grounding and prevent any 'symptoms' that may occur. Cam, what do you intend to do with this small 'group of guys'? hahah. a group of sexually frustrated guys getting together sounds like the beginning of a raunchy gay porn flick. i intend to stick with this 100 days. if you begin dec 1, i'll only be 8 days ahead of you, not a big gap. and as for what i'm practicing, the only energy practice i'm doing is Kunlun level 1. Edited December 1, 2007 by mikaelz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cameron Posted December 1, 2007 Cool..so..yeah the goal is to NOT be sexually frustrated for 100 days but to focus on our practice and all the bliss and joy we will get from it!! Positive energy dude! Actually..your 8 days ahead makes it simple. All you have to do is Dec,Jan and Feb and then your set!! Easy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rainbowgirl Posted December 1, 2007 I am feeling motivated to give this 100 days thing a shot. Would be interested in doing it as a group with other's practicing Kunlun Nei Kung. So, tomorrow is Dec 1st. So basically looking at doing Kunlun for 1 hour a day along with attempting 100 days of retention. So who else is up for it? We can get feedback on our progress and also share any challenges we are having for future generations of Tao seekers interested in doing Kunlun and 100 days. If your in a realationship don't worry about it. Also, I am not talking about doing Kunlun and some form of tantric sex. Am talking about other guys(being single would help) interested in pure celibacy for 100 days. Just not ejaculating itself doesn't cut it. We need to guard our thoughts and actions with intention. No porn, careful as can be not to let yourself go too far in an erotic dream etc. So it would be cool to get atleast a couple other dudes in on this as a support. We can also talk about how 100 days is improving our Kunlun practice. If our feeling of bliss is getting stronger. If our mind is beginiing to feel clearer and our intention and spiritual aspirations more sound. OK! I would definitely be interested in joining this thread I just started the practice about 3 weeks ago and I've only missed 2 days. I would love some extra motivation and also hear what others are experiencing. Last night I practiced and about 10 minutes after ending I found myself laughing for about 5-10 minutes uncontrollably an it felt so good. It makes me want to have more community because it opens you up so rapidly it seems like a natural thing to have some buddies around to share with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cameron Posted December 1, 2007 I am totally fine with you joining our group. I am presuming you are a woman? Probably you will open up even faster and as you don't have to worry about 100 days and are all clear for takeoff. So..that's four..who else is with us? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mantis Posted December 1, 2007 mikaelz, inhale, visualize energy leaving testes up to head while mentally saying "ham" quickly and sharply exhale "sa" i don't bring the energy back down. to bring it to the front channel i simply keep my tongue on the roof of my mouth all day, it's a habit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bindo Posted December 1, 2007 I am totally fine with you joining our group. I am presuming you are a woman? Probably you will open up even faster and as you don't have to worry about 100 days and are all clear for takeoff. So..that's four..who else is with us? According to Seinfeld, she should have to do 150 days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cameron Posted December 1, 2007 Going to kickstart this in 1 hour with an hour of Kunlun. Then it's an hour of Kunlun every morning for 100 days. May the force be with us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cameron Posted December 1, 2007 Why are you rolling your eyes on the Kunlun 100 days thread xeno? Please keep any negativity off this thread it's for those of us doing 100 days and Kunlun. If you have anything positive to say and constructive to helping people with 100 days otherwise please just post in other threads. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sunya Posted December 1, 2007 (edited) how much closin time you doins? 20 min for 1hr enough? maybe he just doesn't star wars. Edited December 1, 2007 by mikaelz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cameron Posted December 1, 2007 Yup. 1 hour Kunlun followed by 20 min closing. I would prefer to mantain as positive energy as possible on this thread. So if you are negative or have negative things to say please do so on other threads. Thank you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xenolith Posted December 1, 2007 You, Cameron are a silly monkey. And based on what you've presented, IMO, an ignoramus of the highest caliber. Be that as it may, you have my sincere hopes of success with your stated undertaking. I respectfully request that you do the Forum the service of reporting the findings of your endeavor so that we may discern the relative benefits of it for ourselves. Kindly avoid hyperbole. Thanks. xeno Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thelerner Posted December 1, 2007 According to Seinfeld, she should have to do 150 days. No 600 and I don't think she should be allowed in the same room with them after day 50 . Hi Cam, Ultimately if you want to keep high vibes on this thread (which is a really good one) you'd have to move it into your Personal Discussion site where you'd have complete control. Michael Share this post Link to post Share on other sites