Germany: Nearly 40 Per Cent of Under Fives Now ‘Migrant Background’

[Golden Dragon Shining]

[Karl]

yes, which is quite different than the king deciding he doesnt really like most of his subjects and inviting the invaders in to come mingle with his women subjects in order to breed out certain things.

FFS. Women choose who they wish to 'mingle' with in Britain I think you will find.

[Karl]

 

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/19/home-office-admits-checks-on-child-refugees-in-calais-are-limite/

 

~

 

https://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-guardian/20161025

 

I dislike these dual standards anyway. If we are going to be forced to look after migrants I don't see why children should be singled out. It isn't as if we have a good record with regard to looking after orphaned children.

 

The outrage has come about because the virtue signalling liberals have been using the emotional lever of 'vulnerable children' to create an acceptance for taking in more migrants. As it turns out, there are very few orphaned, vulnerable children who make it to immigrant camps. It's not exactly suprising that a long journey across sea and land means that it is fit, young men who manage it.

 

Of course, now the virtue signallers have been caught out lying, both they and the authorities are back pedalling furiously. Apparently all the children have been trafficked :-/ or they aged 20 years very suddenly :-(

[Golden Dragon Shining]

"The Fabian Society is a British socialist organisation whose purpose is to advance the principles of democratic socialism via gradualist and reformist effort in democracies, rather than by revolutionary overthrow."



 

Edited October 26, 2016 by Sionnach

[redcairo]

I think an entire class ought to be dedicated to 5th-column strategy in high school. It would change everything. Unfortunately the current edu system is kinda part of it now too, so that's unlikely!

 

RC

[redcairo]

Wait. Is that their actual logo? A wolf in sheep's clothing?!

 

Boy that's taking all the mystery out of it isn't it?

 

PJ

[Golden Dragon Shining]

Yep haha even so, how many are paying attention?

Edited October 26, 2016 by Sionnach

[Brian]

Wait. Is that their actual logo? A wolf in sheep's clothing?!

 

Boy that's taking all the mystery out of it isn't it?

 

PJ

Subtle, eh?

[joeblast]

in a denver airport mural sort of way, yeah

[redcairo]

I like people. I think even people I disagree with are probably lovely folks I likely have plenty in common with, regardless of our politics.

 

I'm a mystic of sorts spiritually, not to be confused with my politics which are totally constructionist (that is to say that all altruism is the affair of the human heart, not the government).

 

But all my spiritual development kinda comes crashing down when I ponder why we cannot just banish anyone demonstrating subversive intent to some other continent.

 

Preferably not South America since they'd just be back on the next train.

 

*

 

For some reason this reminds me of a daydream dilemma I had a long time ago. I was attempting to tame my daydreams which were the normal sorts -- 5 primary versions of me the hero -- and in this case, me the bourne/jet-li like nimble ninja saving the day.

After a moment in the daydream when I flipped a knife at a bad guy I stopped, rewound, and told myself no, I don't want to feed this kind of energy. A knife in someone's throat would likely kill them.

Lizardbrain: OK. We'll throw it in their gut! {does so.}

Guiltybrain: {rewinds} Have you heard about gut-shot? That's a horrible wound.

Lizardbrain: Fine. We'll throw it in their shoulder!

Guiltybrain: Still far too injurious.

Lizardbrain: Fine! It'll spin past and just cut their arm!

Guiltybrain: Remember the incision wound from surgery, how horrible that was? Why would we do that to anybody? Do we want more of that energy ourselves? Come on!

Lizardbrain: We will flip it around and whack them on the head with the hilt!

Guiltybrain: Like brain injuries are so much better.

Lizardbrain: F--k. How can I stick a knife in the bad guy without hurting him too much?

Observingbrain: You cannot stick a knife in anybody without hurting them. Obviously.

Lizardbrain: Well how the f--k am I supposed to have a decent action daydream if I can't hurt anybody?!

Guiltybrain: I think this is the energy we should be looking to curb or convert, here...

Lizardbrain: I hate you.

Guiltybrain: No you don't.

Lizardbrain: I really do.

Observingbrain: Perhaps we should do something else now. Daydreaming is not working out at the moment.

 

Evolutionary individuation (e.g. personal growth) is a PITA.

 

RC

[Karl]

The problem is that defence isn't a heroic act in the terms of any personal gain. Defence simply prevents the loss of value, it doesn't gain one. Therefore dispatch the enemy devoid of any enjoyment of the act.

[redcairo]

I am pretty sure it is the ego (other people involved, one appears mighty) that is sucking up that energy. The gain is in attention and admiration I suppose.

 

I had such an issue with it I finally came up with a diff set of basics that involved rescuing people instead. Unfortunately that still creates the energy of someone needing rescued.

 

Gah! Life on earth!

 

RC

[Karl]

I am pretty sure it is the ego (other people involved, one appears mighty) that is sucking up that energy. The gain is in attention and admiration I suppose.

 

I had such an issue with it I finally came up with a diff set of basics that involved rescuing people instead. Unfortunately that still creates the energy of someone needing rescued.

 

Gah! Life on earth!

 

RC

:-) Ask 'for what purpose do I want it' ?

 

I love Rand's words here:

 

"As a human being, you have no choice about the fact that you need a philosophy. Your only choice is whether you define your philosophy by a conscious, rational, disciplined process of thought and scrupulously logical deliberation—or let your subconscious accumulate a junk heap of unwarranted conclusions, false generalizations, undefined contradictions, undigested slogans, unidentified wishes, doubts and fears, thrown together by chance, but integrated by your subconscious into a kind of mongrel philosophy and fused into a single, solid weight: self-doubt, like a ball and chain in the place where your mind’s wings should have grown."

 

'...Where your minds wings should have grown..'

[redcairo]

Well I think it's possible that just getting more exercise, and perhaps doing more entertainment (generally in the house or literally on stage) would fill certain energetic needs that instead end up trying to find an avenue in daydreams of some kind.

 

I've had so many epiphanies about how my meditations, my daydreams, and my life, are not really any different except a couple details of manifestation degree and speed... but that they are all legitimate energetic constructs I'm interacting with -- and that always has consequences.

 

A smoother life would lead to less head-punching energy in daydreams I feel sure, but I can only theorize. :-)

 

RC

[redcairo]

Oh I forgot to add. Seth would say that whatever we project on others we feel, that is to say, if I daydream of overcoming threat of any kind, then I fear threat.

 

In occasional moments of insight I actually conclude that almost everything is "variations on degree and shade of fear" and when I let go of fear in any area it's amazing how it changes my perspective.

 

Fear of separation from self/god, fundamentally, I think, but that part's theory.

 

I did have one meditation that accidentally suggested maybe he was right (for me) though. Years ago in a med one of my Aeons had an issue with someone in one of her lives and it was invasive, so in the med I pushed that energy "out the door" to protect her. Forgot all about this.

 

Later that night I spent about two hours nearly having a heart attack with unusual fear about someone maybe trying to come in my back door. I kept checking that it was locked. I wasn't sure if I heard something out in my garage (where the door leads to). On and on.

 

Finally another of my Aeons pointed out that I had 'pushed the threat out the door' and now I was paranoid, totally, of a threat outside my door. LOL!!!

 

Once I knew, I fixed it. Still, it was kinda funny... later.

 

RC

[Karl]

Well I think it's possible that just getting more exercise, and perhaps doing more entertainment (generally in the house or literally on stage) would fill certain energetic needs that instead end up trying to find an avenue in daydreams of some kind.

 

I've had so many epiphanies about how my meditations, my daydreams, and my life, are not really any different except a couple details of manifestation degree and speed... but that they are all legitimate energetic constructs I'm interacting with -- and that always has consequences.

 

A smoother life would lead to less head-punching energy in daydreams I feel sure, but I can only theorize. :-)

 

RC

:-) go, create, produce

[Golden Dragon Shining]

German parents may face trial after refusing mosque field trip

 

A German teen's parents have failed to pay a fine for truancy after the pair refused to allow their son to enter a mosque on a school field trip. The parents justified the move by citing "ideological reasons."

 

The prosecutor's office in Germany's Itzehoe is reviewing whether or not the parents of a seventh grader may have to appear in court because they failed to pay a truancy fine over a skipped field trip to a mosque.

 

 

The 13-year-old student's parents refused to allow their son to join his classmates on the June 14 school trip of this year to a mosque in the northern German town on Rendsburg, prosecutor Peter Müller-Rakow said on Wednesday. The field trip was reportedly part of a geography lesson.

 

A local education authority subsequently fined the parents a total of 300 euros ($328) for their son's truancy - which is a common practice in parts of Germany.

 

After the couple appealed the decision, the case was referred to Müller-Rakow who will now decide whether or not the parents stand trial over the case. http://www.dw.com/en/german-parents-may-face-trial-after-refusing-mosque-field-trip/a-36169842

 

 

Edited October 28, 2016 by Sionnach

[Karl]

It's no wonder we get racists emerging when this kind of thing is going on. I've been reading in ZH how the university of Berkley have had some students forcing white students to walk through a stream instead of using a bridge. Then we have the vile racist Sad Can, the London Mayor spreading his propaganda in the USA - blaming all immigration problems on the host country for 'not doing enough to help immigrants'.

 

What has education to do with religious worship ? This is more of the socialistic, integration bullshit that inevitably leads to race riots and bloodshed. The quickest way to inflame a population is to force them to accept other people's ideas.

[Golden Dragon Shining]

Re: Berkley

First couple of minutes

[Cheshire Cat]

It's no wonder we get racists emerging when this kind of thing is going on. [...]

 

It's not about racism.

It's not about muslims.

 

It's about Islam, a religious ideology about intolerance and subjugation of non-believers.

[Golden Dragon Shining]

The genocide suffered by the Hindus of India at the hands of Arab, Turkish, Mughal and Afghan occupying forces for a period of 800 years is as yet formally unrecognised by the World.

 

With the invasion of India by Mahmud Ghazni about 1000 A.D., began the Muslim invasions into the Indian subcontinent and they lasted for several centuries. Nadir Shah made a mountain of the skulls of the Hindus he killed in Delhi alone. Babur raised towers of Hindu skulls at Khanua when he defeated Rana Sanga in 1527 and later he repeated the same horrors after capturing the fort of Chanderi. Akbar ordered a general massacre of 30,000 Rajputs after he captured Chithorgarh in 1568. The Bahamani Sultans had an annual agenda of killing a minimum of 100,000 Hindus every year.

 

The history of medieval India is full of such instances. The holocaust of the Hindus in India continued for 800 years, till the brutal regimes were effectively overpowered in a life and death struggle by the Sikhs in the Panjab and the Hindu Maratha armies in other parts of India in the late 1700’s.

 

We have elaborate literary evidence of the World’s biggest holocaust from existing historical contemporary eyewitness accounts. The historians and biographers of the invading armies and subsequent rulers of India have left quite detailed records of the atrocities they committed in their day-to-day encounters with India’s Hindus.

 

These contemporary records boasted about and glorified the crimes that were committed – and the genocide of tens of millions of Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhist and Jainist, mass rapes of women and the destruction of thousands of ancient Hindu / Buddhist temples and libraries have been well documented and provide solid proof of the World’s biggest holocaust.

 

http://www.sikhnet.com/news/islamic-india-biggest-holocaust-world-history

 

 

Edited October 28, 2016 by Sionnach

[Golden Dragon Shining]

Ottomon Empire
 

The Ottoman Empire, also known as the Turkish Empire, Ottoman Turkey, was an empire founded at the end of the thirteenth century in northwestern Anatolia in the district of Bilecik Söğüt by the Turkish tribal leader Osman. Wikipedia
 

Capitals: Constantinople, Bursa, Söğüt, Edirne

Founded: 1299

Area: 1.8 million km²

Date dissolved: November 1, 1922

 

"Slavery in the Ottoman Empire was a legal and significant part of the Ottoman Empire's economy and society. Enslavement of Caucasians was banned in the early 19th century, while slaves from other groups were allowed. ... A member of the Ottoman slave class, called a kul in Turkish, could achieve high status.
 

In the devşirme, which connotes "draft", "blood tax" or "child collection", young Christian boys from the Balkans and Anatolia were taken from their homes and families, converted to Islam, and enlisted into the most famous branch of the Kapıkulu, the Janissaries, a special soldier class of the Ottoman army that became a decisive faction in the Ottoman invasions of Europe.^[8] Most of the military commanders of the Ottoman forces, imperial administrators, and de facto rulers of the Empire, such as Pargalı Ibrahim Pasha and Sokollu Mehmed Pasha, were recruited in this way.^[9][10] By 1609, the Sultan's Kapıkulu forces increased to about 100,000.^[11]
 

Domestic slavery was not as common as military slavery.^[11] On the basis of a list of estates belonging to members of the ruling class kept in Edirne between 1545 and 1659, the following data was collected: out of 93 estates, 41 had slaves.<sup>[11]

For centuries, large vessels on the Mediterranean relied on European galley slaves supplied by Ottoman and Barbary slave traders. Hundreds of thousands of Europeans were captured by Barbary pirates and sold as slaves in North Africa and the Ottoman Empire between the 16th and 19th centuries.[16][17] These slave raids were conducted largely by Arabs and Berbers rather than Ottoman Turks. However, during the height of the Barbary slave trade in the 16th and 17th centuries, the Barbary states were subject to Ottoman jurisdiction and were ruled by Ottoman pashas. Furthermore, many slaves captured by the Barbary corsairs were sold eastward into Ottoman territories before, during, and after Barbary's period of Ottoman rule</sup>
 

Circassians, Syrians, and Nubians were the three primary races of females who were sold as sex slaves in the Ottoman Empire. Circassian girls were described as fair, light-skinned and were frequently enslaved by Crimean Tatars then sold to Ottomans. They were the most expensive, reaching up to 500 pounds sterling and the most popular with the Turks. Second in popularity were Syrian girls, with their dark eyes, dark hair, and light brown skin, and came largely from coastal regions in Anatolia. Their price could reach up to 30 pounds sterling. They were described as having "good figures when young". Nubian girls were the cheapest and least popular, fetching up to 20 pounds sterling.^[5]
 

Throughout the 18th and 19th centuries, sexual slavery was not only central to Ottoman practice but a critical component of imperial governance and elite social reproduction.^[6]Dhimmi boys taken in the devşirme could also become sexual slaves, though usually they worked in places like bathhouses (hammam) and coffeehouses. They became tellaks (masseurs), köçeks (cross-dressing dancers) or sāqīs (wine pourers) for as long as they were young and beardless.^[31]

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_Ottoman_Empire

 

We are shown very little of history

 

Edited October 28, 2016 by Sionnach

[Karl]

It's not about racism.

It's not about muslims.

 

It's about Islam, a religious ideology about intolerance and subjugation of non-believers.

I suppose I should have talked about tribalism rather than racism, but that's the common wording used today.

 

Al religious ideologies are ultimately death cults of one kind or another. Some are not overtly violent, but the philosophies certainly contain the seeds of violence-even the most gentle such as Buddhism.

 

Islam is the politicised collectivist ideological wing of Muslim religion. One grows out of the other. It's funny how no one refers to the relatively recent incident of Christian militia carrying out massacres in the Middle East. Christians don't want to think that their religion is anything other than peaceful and loving, which is exactly how Muslims see their religion. These less extremist Mystics are dumbfounded and appalled by the fundamentalists, they seek to distance themselves from the violent extremes without realising that they are supporting it. Christians can't condemn Muslims without condemning themselves, so they also play into the game by supporting 'peaceful' Islam. No one wants to say what needs saying- religion is evil.

[Karl]

@ sionnach-remember that the Ottoman Empire is really only the Eastern Roman Empire and slavery was also well established in Europe under Roman occupation.

 

Slavery has been a feature of all empires.

[redcairo]

I'm a little confused by why even in high school you're not allowed to have a 'quiet time for prayer' (at best you can suggest a moment of thought) but you can have small children doing religious stuff like that? I don't really care, personally, but it seems rather inconsistent.

 

I do utterly agree that blaming any race (like jews) for stuff is pretty ridiculous.

 

On the other hand there are times when a given race actually does dominate a given group of people (all the citrus pickers I knew were from Mexico, for example) and if you are complaining about those people (the citrus pickers) it's pretty difficult to separate it from race as a result. Obviously it's best to refer to the people ("bankers" if that's the gripe) and not the race ("jewish bankers" if that's the claim) -- that is technically racist, not because it might be wrong in some cases, but because plenty of jews are poor, certainly not all are bankers, and there's rich bankers who are not jews. So at best it's simply inaccurately over-generalized. At worst it is leveraging one issue (economic issues) for another (racial) which seems to have some agenda/motive hard to understand if it's not racism.

 

*

 

A very long time ago, I got a second job at a 7-11 convenience store. The guy who owned it prided himself on having only local, EFL, ridiculously overqualified employees (my main coworker had an advanced physics degree. Long story) and he talked me into it when I was telling him about how insanely bored I was in my very solitary job. (He was a psych major. I should have known better than to get myself into that conversation!) I worked for him for six months, two nights a week the 6-2am shift, which was one of the most interesting and educational experiences of my life. Not that I hadn't done retail (food) work when young, but I had a different perspective when a bit older (~22 then).

 

Anyway the day I started, two employees were training me on various details and one of them said, "Watch out for the black guys. They steal." The other agreed, and they went on in conversation like it was nothing. I just flipped out. Mind you at that point one of my best friends in the world for a few years was from Nigeria, I have people in my family who happen to be black or half black, and I was so offended it was ridiculous. I literally just told them off, fiercely, and every other employee and the boss heard about it after from them (and he heard about it from me, when I told him it was unprofessional and I'd better never hear it again).

 

So as it turns out there is always a theft issue in such stores but most of it either comes in individuals you don't see, or the individuals who will just grab a case of beer and walk right out the door, and only in one case did theft come predictably from a 'group' of people. And it just happened to be a group of locals who generally dressed and behaved about the same as each other... and who happened to be black.

 

By the time I was leaving, training someone else, I actually heard myself say, "Oh, and watch the group of black guys that come in. They steal." Swear, I heard myself and almost had a heart attack. Then I realized, that really sums up most the problem with prejudice: most is not racial, it is CULTURAL, it is merely that the people fitting that cultural thing "happen to be recognizable by" their race. I hastened to assure this person I did not mean ALL people of that race, only a specific group that would come in 4-6 guys at a time, so to look for that. I was ashamed and yet I knew I was accurate and yet, it was just horrible anyway. Me of all people. I'm like 15 nationalities (depending on which family members I believe), and my family is like a walking united colors of benetton ad... I'm the last person on earth who should have any racial bias.

 

Bob, the owner, told me when I joined him I was a bleeding heart liberal and when I left I was a conservative army general, lol.

 

Working on the border between HUD/SSI/Welfare neighborhood and middle to upper middle class was a trip -- kind of polarities -- I made friends with many people in the neighborhood behind the store, several kids, and after a first hand look at people growing up on poprocks, coke and chips and sometimes hot dogs, I no longer wondered why some people say the ghetto is often 'uneducable' -- biologically you gotta have proper nutrients for brain and nervous system development, just for a place to start. All the people who just decided around 10th grade+ to get pregnant and leave school, when they could have college paid, and scores padded no less, is just kind of sickening, especially when birth control is FREE. It really changed my perspective on a lot of things.

 

I was a hippy of sympathy but there's nothing like being close up to a lot of this stuff to make you think hard about why things are the way they are. You can give people food stamps but you can't make them buy food at a more affordable grocery store instead of chips and coke at an (overpriced) convenience store they feed their infants and toddlers and kids instead. You can try to support everyone, but when one group of people are out working at McD even though they hate it and are embarrassed about it but they need money to live, and another group of people for the most part are too proud to work retail, and won't even bother to take the free schooling and more, it's hard to be sympathetic when people just will not work, will not school, then make lame excuses about how everything is someone else's fault, it's Da Man.

 

What is most enraging -- and I feel this 'on behalf' particularly of racial minorities, despite that all my races blend to a generically mostly-white plain-wrap result -- is that all the rhetoric that makes them victims with sympathy is the most devastatingly destructive thing ever. This would be easy to test but anybody who has worked with people let alone children knows the result in advance. Take two classrooms of kids. One, tell them that most people in the school are against them. And it's SO unfair. And nobody understands. And there is just such unfairness everywhere. Then tell the other class of kids that there is often prejudice against them, but you know what, they are so rocking that they are going to do awesomely, kick ass, and show those bozos who's boss. The first group is going to be an abysmal result. The second group is going to rock.

 

Basically -- back to jews -- I think this is one of the reasons why as a generality (VERY general only), the jews throughout time have often done very well in any culture, economically (the tendency of many nations to eventually want to kill them is probably not accidental given human response to all things 'money and power' and their doing so well with it, but since this is the daobums I will mention that the whole chosen people philosophy is the most fundamentally racist thing possible so it's possible to some degree that energy generated is reflecting) -- basically, their underlying religious belief about being the chosen people, and a microculture that (like immigrant asians I have known, but perhaps less so) often feels they have something to live up to, is excellent for turning out a person who, at the least, TRIES. If surrounded by a culture of people many of whom don't, actually, "try" much if at all, it's natural to expect that kind of cultural effect would result in people who, comparatively, often moved ahead of others. This is not a negative bias, it's actually a bit of an admiration, but I can see how the situational result from the outside could be perceived in the negative.

 

If we admit this is the issue with some cultures (e.g. the vietnamese immigrants) (who I had in school and one of whom as an adult became one of my closest friends) having effects that result in more successful kids, I'm not sure why nobody ever seems to bring it up about the jews since their results are patently known, I'm not sure if it's because it's a religious belief, or because everyone is so afraid it will seem biased, given the previous bias in Germany being greatly marketed regarding "jewish bankers." (Riiiiiight. So Jewish Bankers were the problem, which is why they had to kill millions of jewish people who were, I'm pretty sure, not bankers or even wealthy most the time. Impeccable logic, sigh.)

 

I once watched a movie about time being used as income. Everyone began with the same amount. You couldn't just give it to your kids if you had a lot of it. And yet, there was still rich and poor. It was a terrible movie in many ways (I mean quality wise) but it was really good food for thought for me for a long time. Guess it qualifies as sci fi. I cannot find the title to share it because that stupid movie "In Time" is polluting the search engine results to such a degree no matter if trying to omit it. Cillian Murphy was the only decent acting in that whole show.

 

I think I've completely lost topical focus so I'm going to shut up now. :-) Time to sleep.

 

RC