Katastral Posted September 22, 2016 Hey everybody, Iv'e posted here a couple of times earlier and recieved great help from friendly folks! Now it seems Im need of counsel again.Note: In short; I have experienced alot of kundalini symptoms the past 2 years or so and managed to stay sober for long and short periods of time, check earlier submissions if you wan't a more detailed accounting of that.Anyways, ashamed to say iv'e been having a relapse for the last 2 couple of months   (alot of cannabis, some ecstacy and a few shrooms) and while I can sleep fine this time around I do so for about 10 hours each night if possible and still wake up exhausted! I can feel energy buzzing but not as extremely as before even though Im still more tired. I also been having a chronic headache this past week and feel as if my crown chakra might be overloaded or whatnot. I hug trees to ground energy and try to be out in nature + I do this vizualisation meditation where I picture rain filling up my chest and up to my skull with water and then pour down my body with each breatch out (don't know what it's called). I also stopped doing my normal meditation routine not to induce more energy flow.What Im asking for is guidance; should i really stop my normal routine? Is grounding a solution? And is there any other excercises I could do? Whatever could help, even if you are not sure Im grateful for every post. Thank youMuch love /K Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff Posted September 22, 2016 Ok, if I remotely check on you? Â See if I can make any specific suggestions? Â Best, Jeff 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted September 22, 2016 Sorry but ... first stop taking the drugs. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RiverSnake Posted September 22, 2016 Go down to the Articles section and read the ones on "Kundalini Syndrome".  http://www.kundaliniawakeningprocess.com/blog/videos-about-kundalini/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silent thunder Posted September 22, 2016 psilocybin and cannabis and tea have been instrumental in my healing process not the same for everyone, but must share my counter experience to the usual cultural taboo 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RiverSnake Posted September 22, 2016 psilocybin and cannabis and tea have been instrumental in my healing process not the same for everyone, but must share my counter experience to the usual cultural taboo  Was your experimentation in the context of a Kundalini Awakening? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Albion Posted September 22, 2016 Sorry but ... first stop taking the drugs. Â Â Sorry but ... first stop taking the drugs. Â I just come here some days to get a laugh! Â D.A.D. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silent thunder Posted September 22, 2016 (edited) Nope. None of the substances I've cultivated with have ever been used in the context of a Kundalini Awakening. However, many of the realizations that opened my awareness as Vajra came when working with entheogens and the spirits of our plant medicine brothers and sisters and are among the most potent, healing and blessed of my time in this manifestation...  they are still resonating with deep gratitude in the present.  edit: spelling Edited September 22, 2016 by silent thunder 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kubba Posted September 22, 2016 My Teacher often prevents for addictions. As he says in early stages of kundalini expansion there is a tendency to go the way you are going (drugs, carelesness) which leads the process astray. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Posted September 22, 2016 http://www.disabled-world.com/health/neurology/migraine/serotonin.php  http://mentalhealthdaily.com/2015/05/06/how-to-increase-serotonin-levels/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katastral Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) Sorry but ... first stop taking the drugs. Already did, again... It might be hard to understand without having the experience. But to rewire your subconsious from 15 years of addiction is no walk in park, especially when mostly all of your loved ones use on the regular. It's not like I wan't to use drugs, I just wan't to be happy and not suffer too much, and sometimes my brain convinces me that drugs will help me. Jeez sometimes they even do.  Im way past those so it's fine, but guilt trips never helps. Just thought you should know. Maybe you wanted to help, enjoy your day either way.  Peace Edited September 23, 2016 by Katastral Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katastral Posted September 23, 2016 My Teacher often prevents for addictions. As he says in early stages of kundalini expansion there is a tendency to go the way you are going (drugs, carelesness) which leads the process astray. I found it to be extremely hard after the first wave of experiences, first there was alot of bliss and pain one after the other. After that there was just normal life again, and all the repressed emotions from the earlier years.. Sometimes I thought it had all been a dream, not so much now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katastral Posted September 23, 2016 http://www.disabled-world.com/health/neurology/migraine/serotonin.php  http://mentalhealthdaily.com/2015/05/06/how-to-increase-serotonin-levels/ Thank you <3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katastral Posted September 23, 2016 Go down to the Articles section and read the ones on "Kundalini Syndrome".  http://www.kundaliniawakeningprocess.com/blog/videos-about-kundalini/ Thank you old chi! <3 Will dust this of Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katastral Posted September 23, 2016 Update: Felt much more energy flowing this morning! Couldn't sleep for more than a few minutes at a time since about 5 hours in. Still I feel more alert today then earlier days, not what Im used to from earlier experience Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted September 23, 2016 Already did, again... It might be hard to understand without having the experience. But to rewire your subconsious from 15 years of addiction is no walk in park, especially when mostly all of your loved ones use on the regular. It's not like I wan't to use drugs, I just wan't to be happy and not suffer too much, and sometimes my brain convinces me that drugs will help me. Jeez sometimes they even do.  Im way past those so it's fine, but guilt trips never helps. Just thought you should know. Maybe you wanted to help, enjoy your day either way.  Peace  Nothing to do with guilt.  You need to get a healthy body. That's all. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katastral Posted September 23, 2016 Nothing to do with guilt. Â You need to get a healthy body. That's all. I think you misunderstood me... I asked for advice on practices. When you tell someone who is struggling with addiction to just "stop taking drugs" you oversimplify things. It is not easy, making it sound like it is puts guilt on a person who fails to quit time and again for not being able to. Im aware as Iv'e fallen into that trap before, I just don't want you to go around giving other addicts the same "advice" lol. Â Btw, you just did it again mate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nickyro Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) Banana lassis and wanking. Â Seriously you need a yin sattvic diet and avoid building chi if you need to pacify. You can't sleep because the chi pervading your body is turbulent, avoid chillis and pungent taste at all cost Edited September 23, 2016 by nickyro 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
laughingblade Posted September 23, 2016 ^^ What he said, plus intense aerobic exercise & weights. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katastral Posted September 23, 2016 Banana lassis and wanking.  Seriously you need a yin sattvic diet and avoid building chi if you need to pacify. You can't sleep because the chi pervading your body is turbulent, avoid chillis and pungent taste at all cost  ^^ What he said, plus intense aerobic exercise & weights. Thank you both dor your advice Sorry but what is a yin sattvic diet? And you are advicing against further meditation as long as Im having problems with excess of chi I take it? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RiverSnake Posted September 23, 2016 I was just hanging out with a teacher recently and he said that if you can't go into deep sleep because of energy movements....then don't try to do so.....instead just lye down and practice relaxing. You may not get that full REM sleep, but you will at-least be slightly well rested. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mindtooloud Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) Sorry but ... first stop taking the drugs. i did, what now? Edited September 23, 2016 by mindtooloud Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nickyro Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) Thank you both dor your advice Sorry but what is a yin sattvic diet? And you are advicing against further meditation as long as Im having problems with excess of chi I take it?  i did, what now?  The only way for kundalini to be healthy and uselful in the long run is to cultivate silence via meditation as anapanasati. When the energy from the Depths meets Silence they merge into bliss and cosmic consciousness is realized. But yes, when this energy you feel is too turbulent meditation is barely possible and you will just fry your brain or overload, so you need to fix that. Edited September 23, 2016 by nickyro 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RiverSnake Posted September 24, 2016 I was just hanging out with a teacher recently and he said that if you can't go into deep sleep because of energy movements....then don't try to do so.....instead just lye down and practice relaxing. You may not get that full REM sleep, but you will at-least be slightly well rested.  Alos on the topic of waking up exhausted, your body is probably dehydrated. Energetic activity burns through LOTS of Water. Make sure you replenish regularly. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kubba Posted September 25, 2016 (edited) I think you misunderstood me... I asked for advice on practices. When you tell someone who is struggling with addiction to just "stop taking drugs" you oversimplify things. It is not easy, making it sound like it is puts guilt on a person who fails to quit time and again for not being able to. Im aware as Iv'e fallen into that trap before, I just don't want you to go around giving other addicts the same "advice" lol. Â Btw, you just did it again mate But he is right, just stop. Youre addiction comes from kundalini- it is different than with others. Do not let yourself fall into excuses or overanalysing this dillema. Just stop and thats it. And first of all you should take care of getting in touch with a spiritual teacher who knows what he is doing. You are asking here people of which 95% do not know what you are talking about feom direct experience and what do you expect from them? How much responsibility for yourself is there if you look for such help here? You do not care much. It is only that it started to hur here and there so you look for some painkiller. Edited September 25, 2016 by Kubba Share this post Link to post Share on other sites