gatito Posted December 3, 2016 something brewing up in canada too----pipeline resistance http://aptn.ca/news/2016/12/02/echoes-of-oka-trudeau-minister-says-military-involvement-possible-against-oil-pipeline-resistance/ The more I see of the continent of North America, the happier I am to live in Europe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted December 3, 2016 (edited) VETERANS STAND FOR STANDING ROCK OPERATIONS ORDER | DECEMBER 4-7 2016 (drive.google.com/file/d/0ByZLhosK39TpeDdyNWN4S0FTTlE/view) Edited December 3, 2016 by gatito Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted December 3, 2016 Interesting to note that now "a well regulated <peaceful><and unarmed> militia" is arriving at Standing Rock the Justice Department has been forced to deploy "mediators" to "maintain the peace". Justice department to deploy mediators to Standing Rock to 'maintain the peace' Department is also offering assistance to law enforcement from division that led reform efforts following protests and unrest in 2014, Loretta Lynch said Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LAOLONG Posted December 3, 2016 (edited) . Edited January 24, 2017 by SHINTO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted December 4, 2016 Cannon Ball, North Dakota, US Cat Bigney, part of the Oglala Native American tribe, waits on the shore of the Cannon Ball river for travellers to arrive by canoe at the Oceti Sakowin camp where people have gathered to protest the Dakota Access oil pipeline. Despite state and federal evacuation orders, a government roadblock, escalating police violence and aggressive prosecutions that attorneys say lack basic evidence, thousands of veterans are preparing to travel to Cannon Ball this weekend to support the growing movement to stop the pipeline Photograph: David Goldman/AP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted December 4, 2016 (edited) Interesting to note that now "a well regulated <peaceful><and unarmed> militia" is arriving at Standing Rock the Justice Department has been forced to deploy "mediators" to "maintain the peace". Justice department to deploy mediators to Standing Rock to 'maintain the peace' Department is also offering assistance to law enforcement from division that led reform efforts following protests and unrest in 2014, Loretta Lynch said Sunday 4 December 2016 16.25 GMT Standing Rock: authorities will retreat from bridge if protesters agree to terms Officials will move from the north of the Backwater Bridge if Dakota Access pipeline protesters stay south and go there only if there is a prearranged meeting Edited December 4, 2016 by gatito Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brian Posted December 4, 2016 I'm surprised the government hasn't asked the Sioux to sign another treaty. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted December 4, 2016 It appears the Army Corp of Engineers has denied a permit to continue pipeline construction. http://www.rawstory.com/2016/12/breaking-standing-rock-protesters-celebrate-as-army-corps-of-engineers-halts-dapl-project/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MooNiNite Posted December 4, 2016 No. They are just going to "re-route" the pipeline. It will still be constructed! Exactly as I mentioned in the beginning of the thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LAOLONG Posted December 4, 2016 (edited) . Edited January 24, 2017 by SHINTO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted December 5, 2016 The victory at Standing Rock could mark a turning point The defeat of an energy company by indigenous activists shows what nonviolent unity can accomplish. There are lessons here as we enter a challenging new age 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brian Posted December 5, 2016 Oh, dear! I hope no one really considers this to be a victory or to be over. The government just wants people to lose interest and focus on some new injustice so they can resume in a few months. Once the protectors lose the public's attention, the pipe will get laid and it will all be history -- until/unless something bad happens, but "I told you so" won't roll back time or reverse damage done. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rene Posted December 5, 2016 Oh, dear! I hope no one really considers this to be a victory or to be over.... I'm sure the Lakota have been lied to before; doubt naivety abounds. Always hope, with all eyes open. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brian Posted December 5, 2016 I'm sure the Lakota have been lied to before; doubt naivety abounds. Always hope, with all eyes open.It's not the naivety of the Sioux the government is counting on here, unfortunately. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rene Posted December 5, 2016 My take, fwiw, current admin didn't want this battle on the end of his watch (retreat/delay); new admin will approve route (advance); msm against new admin will keep issue at the fore (trying to stay relevant) Time will tell. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stosh Posted December 5, 2016 So for now , the oil Still crosses the same river ,,,,,,,,,,,, just , in freight trains though populated towns Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zerostao Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161204005090/en/Energy-Transfer-Partners-Sunoco-Logistics-Partners-Respond '.....fully expect completion of pipeline without any rerouting in and around Lake Ohae. Nothing this Administration has done today changes this in any way' time after time the rich and "powerful" ignore laws, rules, regulations. 2016 has reminded us of that repeatedly. through chicanery and bribes or pay small fines, sunoco and energy transfer partners will see this thru. their hope is the water protectors break camp thinking they have won something. the pipeline constructors were advised to stop in september and they went full steam ahead anyways. it is their error in judgement that caused "too late to reroute" it is their calculated gamble, but they always expect to win regardless the role of the veterans on the scene is an interesting dynamic. very much a wild card Edited December 5, 2016 by zerostao Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MooNiNite Posted December 5, 2016 http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161204005090/en/Energy-Transfer-Partners-Sunoco-Logistics-Partners-Respond '.....fully expect completion of pipeline without any rerouting in and around Lake Ohae. Nothing this Administration has done today changes this in any way' "This is nothing new from this Administration, since over the last four months the Administration has demonstrated by its action and inaction that it intended to delay a decision in this matter until President Obama is out of office." lol Obama is just sitting scared...doesnt want to make the corporations upset.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MooNiNite Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) the pipeline goes through like 15 rivers. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/11/23/us/dakota-access-pipeline-protest-map.html ..make that 22 rivers Edited December 5, 2016 by MooNiNite 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted December 5, 2016 http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-tribes-insight-idUSKBN13U1B1 Native American reservations cover just 2 percent of the United States, but they may contain about a fifth of the nation’s oil and gas, along with vast coal reserves. Now, a group of advisors to President-elect Donald Trump on Native American issues wants to free those resources from what they call a suffocating federal bureaucracy that holds title to 56 million acres of tribal lands, two chairmen of the coalition told Reuters in exclusive interviews. The group proposes to put those lands into private ownership - a politically explosive idea that could upend more than century of policy designed to preserve Indian tribes on U.S.-owned reservations, which are governed by tribal leaders as sovereign nations. The tribes have rights to use the land, but they do not own it. They can drill it and reap the profits, but only under regulations that are far more burdensome than those applied to private property. "We should take tribal land away from public treatment," said Markwayne Mullin, a Republican U.S. Representative from Oklahoma and a Cherokee tribe member who is co-chairing Trump’s Native American Affairs Coalition. "As long as we can do it without unintended consequences, I think we will have broad support around Indian country." 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MooNiNite Posted December 5, 2016 http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-tribes-insight-idUSKBN13U1B1 let's hope trump isnt that stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted December 5, 2016 <snip> the role of the veterans on the scene is an interesting dynamic. very much a wild card A well regulated <peaceful> Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State. True, This! — Beneath the rule of men entirely great The pen is mightier than the sword. Behold The arch-enchanters wand! — itself is nothing! — But taking sorcery from the master-hand To paralyse the Cæsars, and to strike The loud earth breathless! — Take away the sword — States can be saved without it! Edward George Earle Lytton Bulwer-Lytton, 1st Baron Lytton. Richelieu; Or the Conspiracy 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted December 5, 2016 It's a sweet irony that he was Secretary of State for the Colonies 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites